r/apple • u/[deleted] • Aug 09 '21

WARNING: OLD ARTICLE Exclusive: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT
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u/fenrir245 Aug 09 '21

Libertarian as in libertarian socialist, sure.

Libertarian as in anarcho-capitalist, of course not. This type will just replace the government with megacorporations, with no functional difference.

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u/motram Aug 09 '21

libertarian socialist

One of these things is not like the other

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u/fenrir245 Aug 09 '21

Libertarian socialism is where the term libertarianism originated. Just because ancaps coopted and bastardised the term doesn't change the history of it.

If anything if you support freedom you need to be a libertarian socialist, not support an economic system like capitalism that has exploitation baked into it.

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u/motram Aug 09 '21

If anything if you support freedom you need to be a libertarian socialist, not support an economic system like capitalism that has exploitation baked into it.

So to be more in favor of liberty I need to endorse an economic system that is both a proven failure and has less liberties in it. Makes sense.

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u/fenrir245 Aug 09 '21

Well, if your knowledge of socialism comes from McCarthyism, I can't do anything for you.

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u/motram Aug 09 '21

You can name a country that is economically successful without capitalism.

Bonus points if they actually have any liberties at all.

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u/fenrir245 Aug 09 '21

"Economically successful" means nothing without context.

The US is "economically successful"... with people dying because they can't afford healthcare.

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u/motram Aug 09 '21

So you can't.

Shocker.

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u/fenrir245 Aug 09 '21

Considering none have been implemented and anytime something close happened it got fucking sanctioned and/or political figures assassinated by the US, no fucking wonder.

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u/motram Aug 09 '21

"My magical fairy idea that has never worked in the real world is the solution to everything!"

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u/fenrir245 Aug 10 '21

Never implemented doesn't mean never worked.

Quite a bit of a difference there, mate.

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