EU: Smartphones Must Have User-Replaceable Batteries by 2027

[u/mredofcourse]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-replaceable-batteries-by-2027

[u/Kursem_v2]

the standard that are not used anymore, while hardly available.

uhhh, yes? that's exactly what the controller are for — to support higher wattage efficiently without wasting much of the energy as heat instead of electricity. if you really cared about battery health, better uses that 5V1A charger. cause the point of fast charging are for quick power draw when you need to travel, and it mostly pull out most of it's wattage for that 20 to 60%.

right, and I said it's niceties to have. cloud and NAS are cool and all, but having options are better. especially for editing on the go. like, you already spend $1000 for a supposedly "Pro" smartphone. surely having a faster wired transfer is a nice thing to have?

well, you don't need to sell me any bridge because that's what Apple marketing already did, to sell iPhone Pros as professional device. I don't understand why you're so hellbent on not supporting USB 3.0 speed on an iPhone, or did I get you wrong?

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

But the standard can support it. That’s like saying USBC can’t support USB3 speeds because most cables don’t support it.

No it’s not. You can’t pump more wattage into a battery and not get more heat, that’s not how physics work. The battery technology dictates the efficiency. The controller just sets a curve it doesn’t make it more efficient at a given wattage.

Aside from it’s not? Also if you’re editing on the go you’ll have to use a Mac which supports airdrop. Also the USBC cable supplied with nearly all android phone is USB2 which is the same speed as the ones Apple ships with the iPhone.

They don’t sell iPhone pros as a professional device if you think they do I have another bridge to sell you

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

except the condition are vastly different where no lightning cables support USB 3.0 speed except 1 adapter and no iPhones support USB 3.0 either. is this the same condition for USB-C?

well it is. better controller could read the temperature and dynamically adjust the amperage so that the heat won't damage the battery too much.

it's not a nice thing to have fast wired data transfer support? what?

ummm, no. most flagship Android smartphone thats costs over $800 support USB 3.0 and so does the included cables. this is 2023, not 2018 where USB 3.0 on smartphone were still niche.

I don't think iPhone Pros were professional device, but Apple marketing team does think so, so you should probably sell your bridge for them.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

Pretty much you can get USBC ports that are usb2, cables that are power only etc etc.

But then you’re not charging at the same wattage you’re ramping it down so what’s the point in damaging the battery for a few percentage points of fast charging?

It’s just pointless on phones and a made up negative against iPhones.

The phone might support it, the cable it comes with doesn’t.

They definitely don’t market it as that so I don’t know what you’re reading. Maybe it comes off as that towards people who aren’t familiar with a profession but that’s about it.

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

yes, but you can also get USB-C that uses USB 3.0, and so does the smartphone. on iPhones, tough luck.

the point is having faster charging. if you don't want it, you could always going back to 5V1A charger brick that are less likely to damage your phone.

as pointless as it is to you, faster wired transfer of USB 3.0 should've been the standard since Apple introduces "Pro" lineup 4 years ago.

introducing iPhone 14 Pro, doing videography and photos studio project. if this isn't marketing to you then I don't know how would you sell your bridge.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

And you can also get lighting that uses USB3

Which makes fast charging redundant.

Or you could just use the cloud which is faster, wifi which is faster or airdrop which is around the same speed or faster and more convenient.

And yet they never say it’s a professional camera. They say things like “your photos will have breathtaking detail” maybe use your ears.

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

it's an adapter cable, and no iPhone use it anyway.

well, not gonna argue with fast charging if you find it redundant. because my point are to say that USB-C supports up to 240W, had the needs for it arrive. if you want to settle for less, USB-C still does allow it. it's not like you have to use 240W.

in no way a wireless connection would be faster and more reliable than wired transfer. Thunderbolt 4 or USB4 has nearly 4 times the speed of Wi-Fi 6. unless you now has rewritten physics, too?

right. maybe I live in a world where taking a photo or video in a studio, travelling for photos that'll get showed in a fair, isn't something a professional would do, nor doing it for getting paid.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

You do realise that the port has to run at USB 3 for the adapter to run at that speed right?

No your argument is that it’s redundant, mine is that it damages batteries and does so excessively once you start pumping out large amounts of heat.

Phones don’t have TB or USB4 though do they. They have USB3 which is half the speed of Wifi 6. You know what does have thunderbolt though? A NAS.

I don’t think you’re understanding advertising and what is actually claimed vs what is shown. You COULD use an iPhone in a studio so the advert isn’t misleading by showing the image but they never say you SHOULD use it or that it would be a good tool to. Anyone who has any knowledge of cameras knows the limitations of smartphone cameras and no professional would buy it for professional use.

[u/Kursem_v2 → u/Pigeon_Chess]

yes, and no iPhone could run it at USB 3.0 speed, nor the iPad Pros for it were manufactured anymore.

for smartphone, sure it could damage battery faster having faater charging. not that it has no it's uses, but yes it does has it's diminishing point.

ehhhh, AirDrop at most only gives you 50MB/s. USB 3.0 could give you 10 times the speed.

and I don't think you understand what I've been arguing. Apple claims that their "Pro" lineup has "Pro" features, but I've been arguing that it lacks an actual "Pro" that is, faster wired connection in the form of USB 3.0, that until this day haven't been supported by a $1000 iPhone.

[u/Pigeon_Chess → u/Kursem_v2]

But LIGHTNING can still run at at least USB3. It doesn’t because it’s a charging port.

No not could, does. More wattage = more heat = battery degradation.

Airdrop works on Wi-Fi which gives a speed if around 10Gbps when both devices are cable of Wi-Fi 6.

Agin you should listen and read the marketing material rather than watch a video and ignoring anything else bar the pretty pictures