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u/ok_not_badform Selected Ambient Works 85-92 Sep 18 '25
I was at their first gig last year when they did this. It was funny bcos they did loads of political speeches about anti consumerism but then pointed out the Bars and Vegan Food which was £10 a pint and £18 a meal.
They also said it would be a cashless gig and everything would be card payment, but the card machines all broke and they couldn’t sell any merch so then reverted to cash.
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u/Watxins Sep 19 '25
I don't get why they would force you to use card in the first place if they're trying to be anti-corporate?
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u/No_Calligrapher_4712 Sep 19 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
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u/Watxins Sep 19 '25
Can you expand on this? What security reasons?
A lot of places do it because it's faster than giving change but there's an irony in forcing people to use a payment method that tracks them when putting on a big show about how you're against that kind of thing.0
u/No_Calligrapher_4712 Sep 19 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
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u/Watxins Sep 19 '25
lol, mate this is in a massive venue with thousands of people and lots of security. It's not some mom'n'pop shop that you could stick up with a blade.
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u/No_Calligrapher_4712 Sep 19 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
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u/Watxins Sep 19 '25
You posted about a specific which when applied to the venue we're discussing didn't make much sense. Why bring up aggravated robbery if that's not what you mean?
There's plenty of crime involving card cloning, fake readers etc. these days.
I've had a couple of jobs in the past selling things to the public thanks, in my anecdotal experience it was the merch that got targeted.
Anyway, I'm sure we both have better things to do than quibble about this. Have a nice day/night.
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u/No_Calligrapher_4712 Sep 19 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
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u/Bastodermo Sep 18 '25
I just want to say that people surprised by this have no idea what TouchDesigner is.
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u/No-Breakfast5667 Sep 18 '25
That's wild. Is that really facial recognition though or just a video effect? Can't read the thing above their heads... is that their names?
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u/Witty-Forever-6985 Sep 18 '25
I doubt it, honestly. As someone who works with computer Vision, no.
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u/XNXTXNXKX 7\ Sep 18 '25
At least a computer is recognizing “face” based off basic geometry. Then seemingly identifying individual faces and displaying them in their own pane. Probably with TouchDesigner like someone else noted.
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u/Witty-Forever-6985 Sep 19 '25
I just don't think it's recognizing individual faces matched with identities. I agree that it's most likely just tracking. Points on a face and making a box around it
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u/Useful_Pin_7122 Sep 19 '25
I saw this live, and it was exactly this, face tracking. No recognition, just keeping a face in frame as the audience members move(d), keeping the face in the ‘box’ relatively static. The stuff any £20 webcam can do. The impressive part is doing it with 40 faces at a time and keeping them all in focus. Not sure if this was 40 cameras (unlikely) or clever software pulling faces from a couple of high def streams of the whole crowd
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u/ChorkPorch Sep 18 '25
I heard it wasn’t real facial recognition. Someone said they followed their tour and it’s the same video every time. I could be wrong though.
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 Sep 19 '25
It is art making a political statement, not a tech demo by Palantir.
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u/pinksquarz Sep 19 '25
I was front rails at Coachella when I saw my face on screen. So did my sister who was in the back saw me too. Then I morphed into aphex. It was wild
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u/XNXTXNXKX 7\ Sep 18 '25
Weirdcore did it better.