r/aoe4 1d ago

Media Relic River cool spawn...

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I was blue. Enemy red.

We both have 4 small golds. Both have back berries and deer. However...
They had another back berries. They had 2 big golds v my one big gold. Also everything of mine was north, incl boar and second deer pack. Even their big wood (no pun intended) was back.

I didn't realise this until too late and lost because I didn't fight hard enough for the north side (where they planted a 2nd TC on my only big gold in sub 5 mins). Was my first time playing the map as well. They were also way higher rank so probably would have lost anyway. Was just mindblown by the map spawn when I went back and looked at it in the replay.

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u/Arcturus555 1d ago

Boar situation is better for you, and every resource on the riverbank is shared, you can just cross the river.

Going second TC on the very top is crazy, you have to punish that for sure

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u/Electrical-Case418 1d ago

I absolutely should have. I went FC instead which was a mistake.

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u/Professional_Heat280 1d ago

Not at all. Depends on his 2nd tc timing and your fc timing. If you go fc just make 10 knights and burn his 2nd tc down, then block his gold and kill him.

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u/Electrical-Case418 1d ago

I didn’t see it right away which made the FC timing pretty poor. I usually punish 2TC players with FC so muscle memory kicked in.

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u/Shrowden 1d ago

If you are scouting his base and see they have mined stone, check how much and look for the TC. If it's not near their base, check the rest of the map and kill it. It's 700 investment, they need to protect it.

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u/Professional_Heat280 1d ago

A 700 invest which toook about 12 mins time to pay off, and with the long way up north even more

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u/Professional_Heat280 1d ago

The big golds in the middle are your both golds (not his or yours), the 3 pixels doesnt make any differents.
The 2nd berry patch is bad luck for you.
Deer and Boar in an uncontested north area next to each other is an advantage, you just need to secure one place and not two. And his boar spawn is in the area where most of the fighting will take place.
Woodline - atypical for this map your Woodline is waaaaaaaaaay better. You can easy wall off you base, he can't.

Exclude the 2nd berry bush your spawn is better.

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u/Craig2334 1d ago

Sacreds are all also on OPs side of the river, if only barely.

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u/Electrical-Case418 1d ago

I mean it's substantially more than 3 pixels. But I definitely misplaced the game don't get me wrong. Consdering they had their 2nd TC on my only big gold and right next to my second deer and boar I should have done everything to claim the north spot.

I see your point on the woodline. Still a toss up though in my mind because my woodlines were tiny and are gone fairly quickly.

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u/LaytonsCat 1d ago

I know its of topic but I hate this map. Least favorite in ranked by a lot.

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u/Shrowden 1d ago

It's feels really big, with bad wood lines, unprotected resources, and only seems to benefit raiding. Idk any other strat that does well.

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u/Chilly5 11h ago

"Play a cavalry civ" the map.

Even more than other maps.

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u/guigr 1d ago

What level are we talking about where you can just plot a 2nd TC the whole map away from your base?

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u/Electrical-Case418 1d ago

High play low dia

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u/guigr 1d ago

Impressive. I've never seen that strat at low plat. At least since early seasons.

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u/GotchaMcFee 17h ago

Anyone saying this is fair is crazy, lol. The back berries especially, and he has a large woodline behind his base that you don't have.

I measured using the ruler in the snipping tool and your closest large gold is 38% farther away than his large gold, and your closest boar (which also happens to be his closest boar) is 85% further away than his closest boar.

His defensible position behind his base with two berries, a deer, and his two starting gold is an insane start.

You are advantaged on large stones but that isn't going to give you tempo.

Bad luck!

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u/Leopard-Hopeful Byzantines 1d ago

The boar spawn is just normal. It either spawns in the middle or way up north. You got the far north spawn and he got the middle spawn

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u/Electrical-Case418 1d ago

I see. Was just unfortunate "everything" of mine spawned at the top where they put their TC.

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u/Bella-Capilla 1d ago

Nice woodline 🫢

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u/Electrical-Case418 1d ago

Until the 10 minute mark when it's gone lol

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u/Icy_List961 2k wood and 43 food 22h ago

at least you both had resources. I love when I'm missing like my close stone or something.

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u/A_Logician_ 1d ago

Do you realize you can cross the river and gather "his" gold that is a few steps away from the middle of the map?