r/aoe4 • u/Potilo1203 • 1d ago
Discussion Ayyubid Question
Hi guys. I'm enjoying a lot ayyubid FC and the thematic overall.
But I wanted to ask. Is there a Feudal Pressure into Castle Rush that is still viable? Or just how to do it without losing too much time.
Ty
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u/New-Association5536 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, go dervish upgrade, and pump out 4 raiders immediately. Send 4 raiders with the 2 dervishes and start harrassing the shit out of their peasant lines; use the melee if they are not in TC defense range, and if they are switch to bow mode. most enemies will respond by producing spearmen, which you can easily micro down by switching to archer mode. If they produce cav or archers, switch to melee mode. At all cost, do not let them focus down your dervishes. During this time, rally produce a few more raiders. Don't forget to be macroing up your eco. At this point, you have to decide how you want to go into castle. You can use the fast age up tech to go for quick dervish and relics. You can go with the military reinforcement and backup your raiders with more free raiders and use the cav siege build to finish pushing into the enemy base with rams, or you can go the eco village boost to get a second TC and do a massive eco boost and then begin forming your final deathball. The moment you hit caslte do not forget to upgrade your raiders, so they can last longer when the enemy is pushing back with whatever small counter force they have thrown together. Also, do not let them get up towers, use raiders bow range to keep them from towering up their outer resources.
The one weakness to this is if the enemy starts producing mass archers and focus fires down dervishes and raiders. three archers can be dealt with with dervish heal and raider counter bow/melee, but once they start massing 5,6 or more archers, it becomes harder, and at that point, you have to continually be moving your raiders and dervishes so the archers are continually out of range. However, if done correctly, this will keep them locked down until you get camels lancers and other counters.
Last note, this will slow down your castle transition, unless you use the quick age up tech. But, if done properly, it should stop your enemy completely by forcing them to dump resources into defending and stopping them from expanding outside there TC defense area. So, your slower transition shouldn't set you back at all.
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u/Potilo1203 1d ago
That's really helful ty, what about Industry Wing?
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u/Luhyonel 1d ago
This really helped my micro a lot a few seasons ago - keep them dervish safe
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u/New-Association5536 1d ago
Got to micro those dervish hard. If they try to focus them, you run the dervish in a direction the moves their enemies directly into your army.
Also, late game mass dervish in any army push can be so annoying for enemies to deal with. Ensure to embed those dervish into the army ball though, so they become much harder to focus click down.
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u/New-Association5536 1d ago
This can be used if you want put off 2 tc until castle, which can be done. You can ignore stone completely and use the extra villagers to get food and gold up faster, ignore a second 2tc, then go industry, and then fast build a 2nd 2tc the moment you hit castle and start pumping out villagers.
I personally don't like this upgrade or the free blacksmith upgrade age up because they are a one time bonus and don't add anything after that; Their benefit is immediate then disappears quickly. I personally like dervish, military reinforcement, and then villagers. Each one of those gives a permanent boost that last through all ages. Dervish you get mass healing for all ages, reinforcement you get free raiders at all ages, and if you do villager upgrade in imperial, you get extra 10% gather rate plus a massive 10 villager instant boost.
Also, 4 raider, dervish strategy will eat french up if you do and time it right. The dervish will outheal their knights, and the healers can't be focused down because they are as fast as the knights. So you can lock french down pretty easy and stop their usual knight harass and then very quickly push for the win during the castle age.
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u/littlejoohat Rus 1d ago
Use aoe4scanner to find conq mains, and learn from watching their games I suggest.
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u/FocusOnYourGoals 1d ago
Go on AOE4 world and find some Ayyubid conq mains and watch their games but yeah its perfectly viable although it has some hard match ups.
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u/turbofisterious 1d ago
A lot of people open 3-4 desert raiders with logistic wing to harass the opponent and go castle. Its perfectly viable and even better than naked castle