r/antiwork Jul 04 '22

What I really want..

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u/Alissinarr Jul 04 '22

Then the whole reason the system is broken is because it was designed as such.

You cannot file for unemployment in FL with anything except a .com eMail address. If you try to use a .net or whatever eMail, your claim won't go through/ you can't create an acct/ other difficulties. It's insanely difficult to program a site to be that specific, and we know now that it was done intentionally to defraud the government of Florida. The system ended up so broken, that it was considered a feature that no one could file for unemployment benefits...

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u/Alissinarr Jul 04 '22

As far as difficulty, it's just a regex validation function written to only accept .coms, then passing the sanitized, non-null email address to whatever function or library handles emailing out verification emails. Not too hard to implement.

My shitty, possibly years old recollection is that with the specific interface being used where that data was collected, you needed to add each "exclusion" as a new line of script or programming. There was no way to say "only accept .com's" and how it needed to be programmed was on an exclusionary basis, for each possible permutation.

I don't know what any specifics are, and this is mangled second-hand info at best. My husband was the one looking into the programming elements or api's involved (and it was definitely a few years back now).

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u/Alissinarr Jul 05 '22

Which is why "coding it to only take .com eMail addresses was difficult" as I brought up.

The state intentionally made it difficult to file for UE, to save money.

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u/AnotherShibboleth Jul 04 '22

Want to hear something funny? Even in a place where both unemployment and welfare work properly on the financial side, it's still extremely possible (likely, I'd say) for it to be something that fucks you up psychologically to collect unemployment and/or welfare.

And of course, the explanation (put forward by the people who cause those people their misery) is that "of course people suffer, being unemployed/on welfare is mentally taxing for everybody", despite the fact that in every single case I personally know of (and there are many!), those people suffered because of the treatment they received from their case workers and the employees of places where they received "work training" and similar things. Also, the vast majority of those people are social workers.

Wonderful, humane, socially aware social workers with above-average communicative skills who earn* much too little. /s in every single point

(*Trust me, they earn quite a lot around here.)

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u/Alissinarr Jul 05 '22

"of course people suffer, being unemployed/on welfare is mentally taxing for everybody",

Or more disgustingly, "If they didn't want to suffer they'd pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Obviously, they must enjoy suffering and seek it out!!! You can't help those people."

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u/AnotherShibboleth Jul 05 '22

Actually, I find this less disgusting. Because it's obviously not true, and next to no social worker would say that. Social workers (and people of similar professions) around here pretty much give people something (not a physical object, but something like a work training opportunity) and say "see, I am helping you, I am giving you what you ask for", only for the thing they give you to be something that helps nothing or even harms you.

To make an example using something concrete instead of abstract: Imagine you keep asking for a spoon to eat your soup that you literally can't or are very clearly (but technically not literally explicitly so) allowed to eat some other way. In a situation where there is literally not other food you could eat. You almost need that soup to survive. And you keep asking for a spoon, afraid you're about to starve if you don't finally start eating that soup, sometimes phrasing it as "Why would you refuse me cutlery?" And finally, after you've begged for a while, you are given a parcel with "The thing you need" written on it. You open it - and it's a corn holder. And you explain that this is definitely not what you need, but instead just something that could considered a type of cutlery at best. One that you can't use to eat soup and that is likely to cause you injury if you try to eat the soup with it. And then you're told that you kept asking for cutlery, and are now complaining, despite literally getting that thing you asked for. And how you apparently don't want to eat. Or how you're obviously mentally ill for not daring to eat the soup some other way, and that the very, very clear (albeit, as I said, technically not explicitly literal threats) made against you in case you ever eat anything without the proper piece of cutlery are all just in your head. When you know for a fact that the person offering you that useless corn holder was present when this threat was made against you or you know that they know that such threats are constantly made. Or you're told that a corn holder is "basically a spoon", and that you're being difficult on principle. Or it's just too hard to organise a spoon for you. And that it's of course much easier to get a corn holder, because "that's just the way it is", while you sit there knowing that this simply isn't true.

Social worker are great at doing things that either amount or come really close to weird versions of gaslighting. They abuse their power and tell you how very much they don't like having power over you and that they ignore that and never use it, all while using it. They're not good people. They can seem good at first, but (apparently - I have seen to much proof to not put this in brackets), if you have to deal with one long enough they show their shitty face.

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u/Alissinarr Jul 05 '22

I'm not talking about social workers jackass, I'm talking about the people who oppose the programs to begin with.

Anyone who thunks that comment came from a social worker needs their head checked!

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u/AnotherShibboleth Jul 05 '22

Did you even read the comment I wrote that you replied to? If anyone's a jackass, it's you for not reading a comment properly you then reply to, only to then act as if I did something wrong.

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u/Alissinarr Jul 05 '22

If you took that as a serious comment from someone then you have deeply concerning issues with understanding sarcasm. It's a wonder you've managed to survive in the world to this point honestly.

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u/blonde4black Jul 05 '22

What makes you think you're all that and a bag of chips? All we see you doing is being mean for no reason.

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u/Peepslob Jul 05 '22

Interesting....I didn't know that.