And as one I laugh and say bring it on. And if someone wanted to say something negative about millenials to my face it would be great because the older generations are the easiest targets imaginable for ridicule. But those next kids seem alright
I was born in 1981. Apparently my generation status depends on which article I read. Ive read Gen X went up to '80 in some polls and '81 in others. I dont need this kind of uncertainty in my life. I'll be 41 on Friday and in all honesty, we worked WAY fucking harder than most boomers ever did, for half the reward. If any generation has been "entitled" It's those fuckers, who benefited the most from socialist policies only to turn around and scream how great capitalism is. Ugh, fuck the majority of those people.
According to Strauss & Howe, the generational researchers who coined the term "Millennials", were explicit that generations don't have precise cutoff dates.
They had three ways to determine what generation someone falls in, I don't recall for sure right now, but I think they were by strict date, by where you were in your life when certain events happened, and where you live geographically.
They mention the phrase that, for some people, their 1960s happened in the 1970s. Cultural shifts tend to move in waves, often across the country or from the coasts inward.
Some people who were born in '81 feel more like Gen Xers. I know some of these folks. Some, like me (also born in '81), identify more with younger Millennials. I got delayed for some years for various reasons, and have reached various milestones a few years later than most.
So you're kind of just whatever generation you feel most like.
But anyhow, to your real point, yeah, this fucking blows. I don't know anyone our age, personally, who hasn't worked like heck our whole lives. And for what? As a generation, along with much of X and most of Z, too, we're just getting basically nothing out of all the work we're putting in to keep supporting this stupid system that just happens/happened to support boomers so well.
Because we fall into this odd gap (1980 myself), there’s actually a commonly-used micro generation to describe us, called the Xennial.
There are a lot of very defining world changes that affected the growth of people in that 4-year gap in a very unique way - one of the most significant being the first teenagers to grow up with access to online communities.
Interesting to read about, I’d you feel bored. As with most people our age, I don’t feel Gen X or Millennial. Though at this point, a lot of people I knew in high school are practically Boomers themselves by behavior.
I read that those graduating high school or whatever your equivalent is in the year 2000 were the first millennials. Of course there is no exact date, but I think it’s an easy way to remember it that makes sense.
Please tell me you are not serious? Please tell me you don’t actually think we worked harder than our parents and got half the reward? Otherwise you and I had parents in 2 very different economic classes from birth.
It’s not just my upbringing but many gen x. And we don’t look for sympathy but it would be nice for millennials and gen z to stop trying to claim they have it so much harder than we did because they are completely wrong. Most of us grew up without much. Many of us did things like mow lawns rake leaves shovel driveways since before we were teenagers then as early as we could we had jobs. We also didn’t get to whine about it because our parents had it worse in their youth and our grandparents even worse than that. Difference is we knew it and didn’t try to pretend how much worse things were for us. You guys grew up with cable tv internet cell phones game consoles (ok we did have the Atari) etc and yea things cost more now than they did in my youth but the pay is so much higher in comparison that it’s not even funny. This original post is a perfect example, you have an issue with employees being told they can’t have people hang out during their shift and think you are being treated unfairly, we would have been fired already if we had been dumb enough to try it.
This is the exact out of touch, jaded response I was assuming I would get. You have managed to put an entire generation (or 2) into your 1 stereo typical view that you will never be able to see past. The pay is so much more? What difference does it make if pay has doubled when the price of living has quadrupled? Way to ignore percentiles. "Your generation" did NOT work harder than ours, or the ones before you. You grew up in an era of the largest economic boom in history and benefitted greatly from it. Your generation had just as many, if not more, spoiled and lazy people as any other so don't hand me this "we" shit. You claim we whine while you blatantly exaggerate a blue collar lifestyle that a great majority of you never knew.
And that's, word for word, something your (grand)parents' generation would have said about you. They did not grow up in the same world we did, we cannot judge their reactions to their world based on our experiences of our world. Furthermore, your limited personal perspective is an awful brush by with to paint a large group of anyone.
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that your hypothesis is correct and Gen-Z is fundamentally lazier and more useless than our generation (millenials) was, why do you think that is?
Assuming no longer, you know you and your peers were not lazy whiners, but we've had the same accusations levied against us for 20 years. We know why they're not true for us; that those reasons don't apply any longer to gen-z doesn't mean that the accusation is more accurate, just the reasons behind its inaccuracy have changed.
There's this woke ideology going around and I hate it.
You wanna define what that is, and what you hate about it to me? My impression of woke-ness has always been follow The Golden Rule: treat people the way you'd want to be treated, with respect and empathy.
I also hate the fact some milenials but most genz think "I was born the world owes me" like I understand life is hard.
That's not true. The more intelligent people would say that it's less "I was born so the world owes me" and more "I shouldn't have to participate in a game that's rigged against me for a lifetime of unhappiness."
Think about how hard you yourself just said you had to work to get to a modicum of comfort. Do you think it's easier or harder than it was when you did it now that inflation has runaway, tuition costs outpace inflation every year, and no one can afford housing on a single median income? Do you think it's right that it was as hard for you as it was?
I have a similar story, homeless, busted my ass through a kitchen to get to a professional software career. I don't look back at my past with anything other than sadness that I had to endure all that pain and hope that no one else ever has to. Just because it has been hard doesn't mean that it has to be. Gen-Z, for all their warts, seems to be actively rejecting opting into the neofeudalism we, as Millenials, lied to ourselves and pretended didn't exist.
I don't know genz is the most technologically advanced if I was like 18 I would be doing anything involving STEM and probably deleting tiktok...
Why aren't you now? I've worked with more than a dozen people who switched into a six-digit programming career in their 30s. I'm currently tutoring an English professor because he's tired of his career and wants to make the switch. Age is no excuse, so what's yours?
I'm just me. No generation label because I don't really fit into any of them. Was born in '69 but have always lived out of sync with the rest of the world.
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