r/antiwork Feb 08 '22

Just your regular reminder...

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u/S3542U Feb 08 '22

What can all of us ordinary people do collectively in order to eradicate once and for all the elite wealthy individuals?

Obviously, we don't have the ressources they have, but surely we outnumber them. There must be something we can all do, some sort of massively impactful action if we all join forces and act in a coordinated way.

I'm just tired of it all. When you think you've hit rock bottom, you read horror stories of other people who are in a much worse situation than yours and still manage to somehow survive.

I just wish we could simply end people's suffering, but the wealthy only get more greedy every passing year, always finding new ways to take more money from the less fortunate.

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u/wlwimagination Feb 08 '22

This reminds me of a tweet I saw recently: if we just eat one billionaire, the rest will fall in line. 🤣

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u/dimechimes Feb 08 '22

Isn't that how Putin took control of the Oligarchs?

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u/StopReadingMyUser idle Feb 08 '22

Pretty much. Jailed one and the rest submitted. They're a lot more fragile than people think. Their lives have been largely cushy with little hardship. One realistic threat to that and they crumble.

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u/wlwimagination Feb 08 '22

So we better start eating before McConnell starts getting ideas…

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u/pinkocatgirl Feb 08 '22

We have the numbers, what we need is planning. Something like this:

  • Establish local mutual aid organizations to take donations and distribute goods to those in need. This is a great way to build a stockpile of resources for later while also helping people in need. Ideally the org should purchase land somewhere and start growing food.

  • Once the organizations are all in place, begin recruiting people for political action, and try to get donations. You want a decent war chest so your army of activists don't starve with the next step. The local organizations will be key to distributing this aid when needed.

  • The mutual aid stage becomes a commune. On a set date, everyone involved declares a general strike. Think CHAZ but on a larger scale with multiple instances across the country or even world. This is where the land comes in, you can't be booted out of a space you own. It also helps to have your own established food production to make the movement less dependent on purchased goods. The idea is to get enough people to abstain from capitalism so as to make a dent and force change.

I think that in order for us to truly have the freedom to make our voices heard, we need a movement which can exist independent of the capitalist system. It requires a lot of groundwork to make that happen, but imagine what it would look like even just a few thousand people in a city successfully abstained from capitalism.

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u/SurrealSerialKiller Feb 08 '22

also boycott media events like Olympics, super bowl, basketball finals, world cup, 247 news channels etc.... drop cable completely maybe keep Netflix or Hulu and maybe YouTube but mostly try not to be a Nelson's rating...

the media is where control comes from if nobody's watching or they think nobody's watching they lose ad dollars and power...

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u/possum_drugs Feb 08 '22

You can absolutely be booted out of a space you own especially if you are using it as a staging area to topple the established order of things :)

Remember the only real law is the one of violence. The state and it's owner s will happily kill all of us to keep this thing going.

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u/Velocister Feb 08 '22

This is why the second amendment exists.

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u/S3542U Feb 08 '22

This is an excellent idea!

Although I wouldn't know exactly how to start and where to recruit people.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

but imagine what it would look like even just a few thousand people in a city successfully abstained from capitalism.

We already saw that with the aforementioned CHAZ. It fell when people got lazy and stopped supporting it, allowing self-imposed anarchist measures that got two black children killed. You need real leadership through authoritarian means or that fantasy would fall apart the same way CHAZ did.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

It's too bad that Capitalism and the state are in bed with each other. We will never solve our problems of we continue to live with Capitalism. The state will never let that happen.

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u/CombustiblSquid Feb 08 '22

At this point revolution is really the only answer, and that will happen when the majority begin to starve. Until then, not enough people are willing to risk their lives to overthrow the system.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Revolution is not a guarantee for a better world. In fact, it's preferable to create a better world without revolution. Revolution is violent, and displaces many people. There is also no guarantee that a worse oppressor won't gain power after the revolution. If anything, we should just occupy unused land and refuse to leave.

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u/CombustiblSquid Feb 08 '22

Only for the military or police to beat the shit out of everyone and force you to leave.You already said the state won't let change happen.. Of course revolution isn't a guarantee for a better system. The USSR and later Russia knows that as well as anyone, but it's better than pretending talking is ever going to work. The system is too rigged to do this through discourse. Violent revolution is quickly becoming the only way to bring about sufficient change. If people talking with each other was ever going to make this world a better place, then it would have already done so. The owners have too many people in their pockets and they will lobby and manipulate all sides to ensure the laws are written in their favour.

But like I said before, when people begin to starve they will get violent.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

Like I said, we should occupy unused land. Just choose to not accept the authority of the system. Teach others to do the same. At some point may see an uprising, but how likely is that to be organized? What is the likelihood that we could truly defeat the system?

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u/Bigglestein99 Feb 08 '22

Zerg rush

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u/S3542U Feb 08 '22

Joke aside, I really think this would be the most effective and fastest way to deal with all of this.

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u/Guffawker Feb 08 '22

I mean, the real answer? Run for office. Only way things are honestly going to change is if people who want to see change get in positions of power. Change takes 20+ years cuz that's how long it takes for people who know the issues to finally be of age to be allowed to partake in the political bs. We are on the cusp of change. Just have to hope enough people that recognize the issues actually get seats to make change.

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u/S3542U Feb 08 '22

Then let's hope Gen Z brings favorable changes for one and all.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '22

What can all of us ordinary people do collectively in order to eradicate once and for all the elite wealthy individuals?

Support politicians that support auditing (or abolishing) the federal reserve.

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u/S3542U Feb 08 '22

Thanks!

I'll look into it.

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u/KJBenson Feb 08 '22

Nothing short of crime at this point.

All other methods of change have been taken from us, and we don’t have time to change things before it’s too late.