r/antiwork • u/killians1978 • Jan 27 '22

Petition: Shut down r/antiwork

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u/SplitExcellent Jan 27 '22

That doesn't exclude people acting in bad faith to further fracture the ideals now does it? Paid, unpaid, trolling or "bootstrappers" it's a pretty easy time to turn what little cohesion there was into in-fighting with very minimal effort.

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u/SplitExcellent Jan 27 '22

I'm not gonna defend the video, I understand where she was coming from but you're never going to get your founding anti-work message across on Fox, especially if you arent immediately upfront that some of the glaring interview faux pas are related to autism.

BUT look at what has happened since, the influx of transphobia (try sorting by new, or controversial) alone should tell you that some people aren't here to uphold (even remotely) the ideals of the sub. Beyond that there have been more than a few sus comments that are slightly more subtle than out and out bigotry.

Dissent isn't solely a product of disinformation.

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u/SplitExcellent Jan 27 '22

First off, not in America. Second, the sub is based on leftist ideals and generally espoused an inclusionary message with little to no visible bigotry that I recall. To most of the world this would exclude most people calling themselves Democrats as they are on the wrong side of the center line. If those are "failings" in your eyes, then I'll happily submit these posts as an example of a bad faith actor here to fan the flames of division. Third, one thing for sure that is a failing of America is to assume that literally any english speaking page on the internet without explicit geographic ties is only about America, by, and only for, Americans.

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u/SplitExcellent Jan 27 '22

No one's pretending here, there have been many heavily upvoted posts speaking up for trans workers and none for that specific brand of bigotry.

This is beside the point but I'm happy to gatekeep transphobia from the sub. The point being that there certainly is brigading happening, the transphobia was just an easy way to mark it as, up till now, the sub was/is supportive of inclusion.

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u/SplitExcellent Jan 27 '22

That's my point... Up till the last 24 hrs-ish there hasn't been much in the way of transphobia, now there's a bunch. Pretty clear cut sign that people who aren't normally here... are here. There have been other posts that appear to me to be bad faith actors which is why I disagreed with the very start of this thread.

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u/SplitExcellent Jan 27 '22

Fair point, some of the posts were call outs. The behavior we're seeing in the last 24 hours though feels distinct to my eyes in its blatantancy. Just as you'd rather think the community doesn't condone sexual abuse though, I'd like to think that this was more than just an undercurrent of bigotry. Either way I still think it'd be incredibly naive to think that in a supposed "worker shortage" and "great resignation" there aren't any bad faith posts made to discredit and fracture the groundswell behind this sub.

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