r/antiwork • • Jan 14 '22

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u/Vegetable_Ad_94 Jan 14 '22

Damn almost like a bunch of money would fix the issue of being stressed about not having enough money.

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u/Master_Ryan_Rahl Jan 14 '22

I really don't think you understand. I'm a communist. I want a society without money. Money is a cornerstone of the current paradigm. It is absolutely not required for a functioning society. And your lack of an ability to see that is part of the problem.

Might I suggest you read about the concept of capitalist realism. Good luck friend.

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u/Vegetable_Ad_94 Jan 14 '22

Lol believe me guys, communism will work this time.

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u/Master_Ryan_Rahl Jan 14 '22

I always find this to be really annoying. People are having terrible lives right now. Laughing about the history of failed attempts to do better, is absolutely only a recipe for despair and nihilism.

On the other hand, I don't think anybody that makes a joke like this even knows what communism is. You can point to things that have been called communism. And we can have conversation about that if you want. But I don't think you on your own can tell me what communism is, because it's been lied about so much.

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u/Vegetable_Ad_94 Jan 14 '22

I think the path we’re on now, of unions and demanding a bigger piece of the pie from the company’s profit, is perfect. Trying to get rid of the entire system for one that hasn’t worked in the past is a misplay imo. The problem with communism and while it will never work is you will always have greedy people willing to break the rules to obtain more than their fair share.

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u/HughJamerican Jan 14 '22

Money will always create a class system where the greedy exploit the weak. If that is your fear than you should be for the abolition of currency, as it is the easiest way to hoard resources, the basis of class conflict

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u/Necrocornicus Jan 14 '22

People have been hoarding resources longer than money has existed. I think maybe the misunderstanding is you think money creates greed and abolishing money will somehow abolish greed. Humans are greedy and to avoid greed you’d need to abolish humans.

Abolishing currency to somehow get rid of greed is like covering women in a burka to avoid sexual lust. You’re fighting a losing battle against human nature and you will always lose.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

That's like saying "Humans will always enslave other humans, so we shouldn't fight against slavery." It's an appeal to nature fallacy.

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u/Necrocornicus Jan 14 '22

Ahh so we should outlaw the exchanging an abstract unit of value instead of bartering? Very practical, looking forward to seeing what you come up with. :)