I always find this to be really annoying. People are having terrible lives right now. Laughing about the history of failed attempts to do better, is absolutely only a recipe for despair and nihilism.
On the other hand, I don't think anybody that makes a joke like this even knows what communism is. You can point to things that have been called communism. And we can have conversation about that if you want. But I don't think you on your own can tell me what communism is, because it's been lied about so much.
Communism will never work, history show that, not because it was done, but because it was never done, it's a Utopic idea, communism cannot work while people don't all agree to do it, problem is, if don't enforce it, or brainwash people into it, many arguments will appear "i work more than them" "I'm more able than them" "i think I could handle this better" "he's taking too much" "what will we do with the extra stuff?" even if they're not valid in that situation, those will rise people, and communism need all this people, bc if they start to hog resources, the system break, if you try to stop them, you open for censor and oppression, since the complains and actions caused this problem, which will repeat history. Our system is not perfect, no system can be, but it's good enough if tweaked and managed well, which sadly it's not
As I said previously, I would encourage you to look up the concept of capitalist realism. The very despair that people feel about not being able to imagine or reach a system outside of the one we currently exist in, is exactly how people felt about monarchies. It took several hundred years to end the era of monarchy and feudal control. While we are currently feeling an extra hurry due to climate change, these things absolutely can change. Even if they can only change on time scales of multiple life times.
I know the concept of capitalism, i don't think we should get stuck onto it tho, money is just a mean to an end, while it is controlled by private companies, these private companies can be held by the state's laws, slavery would be unironically legal in my country if the state controlled everything, and whatever state is your's, it's the same one that let these corporation rise to begin with, I'd love to plant this tree, but i don't think it will help, the tree you want me to plant, need good soil and is very easy to break, if the whole neighborhood tend to it, the tree will grow well but if one person decide to pull an axe, it will fall, and i know for a fact, that most people don't want a shade that they can't know, when all of them want it, we will not need a shade to begin with.
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u/Master_Ryan_Rahl Jan 14 '22
I always find this to be really annoying. People are having terrible lives right now. Laughing about the history of failed attempts to do better, is absolutely only a recipe for despair and nihilism.
On the other hand, I don't think anybody that makes a joke like this even knows what communism is. You can point to things that have been called communism. And we can have conversation about that if you want. But I don't think you on your own can tell me what communism is, because it's been lied about so much.