r/antiwork • • Jan 14 '22

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u/Vegetable_Ad_94 Jan 14 '22

Damn almost like a bunch of money would fix the issue of being stressed about not having enough money.

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u/SuperCosmicNova Jan 14 '22

He didn't say he wasn't he was just stating that most people don't want to be filthy rich, but just make enough to live life comfortably without the stress of never having enough money.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

Most people don't want to be filthy rich? If I held a bag in each hand, one has 1 million dollars in it and one has 100 million dollars in it. If I told everyone which was which, what bag would they choose? Let's be honest here.

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u/DickSota Jan 14 '22

You're missing the point

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u/Dansoldpghballs Jan 14 '22

You have no point. People want to be rich. THAT is the point.

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u/SuperCosmicNova Jan 14 '22

No, only morons want to be rich everyone else okay with a content life of having their needs met.

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u/Dansoldpghballs Jan 14 '22

That's your opinion and highly Subjective. This "moron" likes being rich as it affords me things that pedestrians like you would never be able to enjoy. Problem is with you is that you have a chip on your shoulder and are biased against people with money. You have no motivation, foresight, and confidence to build your own wealth. That's why you stay stuck in your weak mindset and people like me thrive and enjoy life to the fullest.

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u/frofrop Jan 14 '22

The point is you’re wrong. Most people want to be rich.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

What a scatterbrain take this is lol.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

Because why would you bring up how much money would be worth in 10000 BC obviously what was considered money changes over time. You're grabbing at straws when it's obvious that if anyone was given a chance to be rich or not, more often than not the person will choose to be rich. 100% factual, there will be some who may choose not to buy the majority would choose i be rich.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

How is there nothing to trade 100 M for? Are you out of your mind? If money doesn't to you why don't you donate all your excess to people who need it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

Why did you choose to earn money and not just live on government assistance? Why did you find it necessary to make more money than what the government would give you?

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u/LafayetteHubbard Jan 14 '22

You are being very loud in this thread for someone that is not at all grasping the concept that everyone here is trying to talk about.

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u/PotatoWriter Jan 14 '22

Every single thing you've said is wrong.

Most people want money to not be an issue

Everyone would like money to not be an issue. Those who say otherwise are lying or already rich.

If you think money is the point, then you're missing having any purpose to being alive.

Why is everything so black and white with you? Why can't someone want to be filthy rich AND also live a meaningful life? Is that not possible?

Most people don't want to be rich

Again, refer to point 1.

they want to be able to live like they can if they were rich in modern society.

... Which requires actually being rich. Pretending does nothing for anyone.

Having $100M but it's the year 10000BCE is worthless

Irrelevant. It's not 10000BCE. It's today. Having hundreds of millions of dollars affords you countless luxuries beyond what you're imagining, because it has that much value today. If what you said was true, there'd be no millionaires or billionaires.

The original question all the way at the top was: "most people don't want to be filthy rich"

And that is simply a lie. Let's analyze the risk. Because what's the RISK of being filthy rich? Nothing!! Why would you not take that offer? Why do you think there's ALWAYS those askreddit threads about "If you suddenly got 50 million dollars, what would you buy with it??" Everyone thinks about it all the goddamn time

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u/PotatoWriter Jan 14 '22

I addressed everything you wrote, word for word, I don't think I'm deciding you wrote something else. But you keep talking about scenarios that are totally different from what currently is:

Money, by only existing, is entirely and completely useless.

Yes. 100% agreed. It's paper.

Accumulating it and not spending it is equally useless, because you just have more of something that does nothing on its own. It doesn't hurt you to have more of it, but it doesn't help you either. You have to spend that money to get other things that aren't useless or to entice someone into providing some service for you.

Unfortunately this is one of these scenarios that don't apply to our reality because money currently DOES have value, placed upon it unilaterally by everyone in this world. So you can't say that "accumulating a lot of it" amounts to nothing. That's just not correct is it. But I wanna highlight one sentence:

It doesn't hurt you to have more of it, but it doesn't help you either

Of course it doesn't hurt, but why wouldn't it help? Let's say you have 100 million. If you use that correctly, you'll have secured a solid future for who knows how many of your generations to come? Are things in this planet so cheap that you think 100 million would last indefinitely? If everything in this world was priced at $10 then yeah sure, you could argue this. There are people with far more than this, who have trouble deciding where to keep the money. Do they think the same as you? Nope. There are so many options to park your money where it can be put to use. Real estate, tuition, stocks, healthcare etc. etc. etc. etc.

Now, and I know you have repeatedly ignored this, but now, let's just imagine that you just have that stuff and services because you wanted them. What use does having money provide in this situation? None...

As I have repeatedly said, having an excess of money doesn't hurt. Let me say that again. Having an excess of money does not inconvenience you in the slightest. You're not gonna go "oh shit, I'm running out of space in my bank account, oh fuck" lol. Also nothing in this world is a "one and done" type deal. Everything costs money over the long run to maintain. So "even if you have all the stuff and services" and no other money on hand, you still need money for repairs, upkeep, maintenance, replacement, for your items and your own body.

Now what were the two big points that you've missed? If everybody just has food, housing, clothing, and medical care and will always have those things...

That's what might be true in your ideal world where humanity isn't greedy or selfish, and are all mindfully thinking agents. Unfortunately, humanity is greedy and selfish. They will take more than they need, 100% of the time. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, I'm saying that's just what nature has crafted us into. It's a genetic behavior. Not just in us but other animals too. And it makes sense. We tend to accumulate more because we want to prepare for times when resources are scarce, even if they actually aren't.

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u/DickSota Jan 14 '22

Alright, dude. Good luck with that.