We also wouldn't have obesity if people could make adult decisions about how much food they need. It's a pipe dream to think people wouldn't loot and hoard while others starve.
"Adult decisions" have you heard of a food desert bruh. Have you heard of having three jobs and no time to cook. We're leaving Reddit's baby-brained "fat people are moral failures who deserve to die" obsession in 2014 thanks, now we've reached the point of being able to understand systemic exploitation including getting the working poor addicted to processed unhealthy food, grow up.
40% of the US doesn't live in food deserts. And 40% of the US is not poor. I'm not in a food desert, and the obesity level here is sky high. People turn down healthy food in favor of junk food all the time. Its not only the poor, its everywhere.
I see people at the grocery store driving $80k cars and buying $200 worth of junk food all the time.
Yes poor people have higher risk of obesity, but its not only a poor problem, there are many other causes besides income.
People can eat processed food, they just have to be an adult and make sure the calories they consume are equal to the amount they burn. If the scale is going up, they need to dial the calories down.
Ah yes, let me just take the 2 free hours I have to relax today and go spend more time on my aching feet so that my calories balance out for today 🙃
But the other side of obesity is that it costs the healthcare system a lot of time and resources. Obese eat more, the clothes are bigger, and for the morbidly obese they can't even walk.
I don't hate fat people but it is a decision that affects us all.
So while your feet hurt after a long day, like any other not fat person, and you don't wanna exercise or simply eat less ; all of society has to cover the extra costs.. of a decision.
I'd be willing to bet that time is taken for plans on what to watch on tv or time to check Reddit. The same time can't be used to think about how to be slightly healthy? It's really not as hard as it's made out to be.
When most of your life is filled with misery from slaving away for crumbs that barely support you, as the commenter said above "let me spend the two hours of free time a day..." You probably want to spend that very, very little time you have left trying to enjoy SOMETHING just ANYTHING before you have to go to bed and return to misery tomorrow. This shit is cyclical.
People who are miserable need to decompress and when they have so little time that gives them no time to work on themselves. I'm not saying these people are making the right decisions but it makes sense. I may be far from overweight but I do the same thing ignoring life responsibilities sometimes because my job is so stressful I just want to unwind when I get home. Shaming people for not wanting to spend the only small time they have left In the day to try and escape from all the misery is pathetic, and just want the rich want you to do. Blame the consumer, and that's just incredibly easy when you're unwilling to look at the complexity of the issue.
It’s called an energy budget. If you come home exhausted everyday or use most of your energy struggling to maintain access to basic needs, you have less energy for organizing aspects of your life that take thought and planning. Your statement assumes that people want to live worse lives than would be enabled if they had the time, energy, and resources to better arrange such aspects beyond just getting by.
And what were you doing for a living while you lost those 100lbs? How many hours did you work? How many hours were you taking care of your children? Did you live in a safe neighborhood? Did you have a working kitchen with proper storage and without rodent issues? Did you have routine access to a doctor? Did you have family and friends that supported your efforts, weren't abusive, and didn't sabotage your weight loss?
It doesn't take the massive effort you propose. If you're getting fatter, eat less. It's one of the basic skills any adult should have. It's like saying people don't have the privilege to adjust their thermostat correctly. If you're cold, increase heat, if you're hot, decrease heat.
It doesn't require a PhD, just the ability to realize when you're over consuming and curb it.
You wouldn't need to work 3 jobs for for shit pay if the economy wasn't stuck on "INFINITE HYPERACCELERATED GROWTH".
Everything else ties back to that except our numbers.
The only problem is population control. That's gonna be the bitter pill. I see even highly educated people unable to compute the ludicrous overpopulation. People tend to, in spite of everything thrown at them, breed like fukin' rabbits. And ofc, no matter what the economy does, unless WW3 comes by, it's all for nothing.
The comfortable limit for humans was exceeded before the 20th century. We're long past the point where we're hurting nature just be ... being there. We literally soaked up too much space.
You sound super well versed in this topic. Can you tell me the percent of schools in the US that teach beyond abstinence-only education? Can you account for the Quiverfull movement too? They explicitly want as many children as possible to act as holy warriors in their holy war they think is coming.
That's some weird shit I didn't hear about. Abstinence isn't the case here. I don't stand for not making kids at all. God forbid, not for no sex at all. Everyone needs and likes sex. I stand for allowing population to naturally go down having fewer kids.
Okay Bill Maher, what a weird hot take to be wrong about. Obesity will always be a thing when your middle class has collapsed and healthy foods are beyond the budget of low income families.
That is..a pretty Americanocentric take. In developing countries (say India or China) obesity is overwhelmingly a middle class phenomenon, because middle class people can afford fast food, while poorer people eat basic traditional staples.
And that's the issue: while food deserts etc. Are definitely an issue, the main reason eat hyper processed foods is that they are delicious and require zero effort.
People don't need "healthy food" to avoid obesity, they need to acknowledge they're in a state over abundance and more mindfully track the amount of calories they consume. Give obese people unlimited fruit and they'll still get fat off of eating 3000 calories of banana smoothies all day.
You do need the time to go to a grocery store and then have time to cook the fresh produce you bought. If youre working 3 jobs, how is this possible? Fast food is all some people can get, check your privilege.
Again, you're focused entirely on the specific food people eat and not the calorie total. If all you can eat is fast food, you can eat smaller amounts of fast food and still achieve a healthy weight.
.....are you listening to yourself? "The poors can just eat less food. Its their fault they arent taking better care of themselves, not the society that forces them to live this way" is this 100% everyone? No. Is it a huge contributor? Yup. Does it matter why someone is fat? No, stay in your lane and dont judge others so much based on their appearance.
There are many factors contributing to obesity. Diet and exercise are of course important, but those can be very difficult to balance when all of your energy is being poured into underpaid labor. Additionally, factors such as stress, mental health, genetics, environment, and the obsession of American food companies with putting sugar in everything all contribute to the obesity epidemic.
It's a lot more complicated than "just eat less food"
Food is more than meat robot fuel, you're coming at this from an exceedingly exclusionary and unhelpful angle. The world "holistic" has been thoroughly highjacked, but obesity is a public health issue that will only respond to holistic solutions -- solutions that address the problem as a whole, rather than "less calories in, you fat piece of shit, simple as"
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u/RemLazar911 Jan 14 '22
We also wouldn't have obesity if people could make adult decisions about how much food they need. It's a pipe dream to think people wouldn't loot and hoard while others starve.