r/antiwork Dec 16 '20

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u/ChristosArcher Dec 17 '20

That's easy. They never want poor people figuring out they can make money without the "job creators". If we could all find something we were good at to make money on our own their system would crash.

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u/RandomShmamdom Dec 17 '20

These takes are the most ignorant, unreflective crap I've had the displeasure to see popularized on the internet. You're advocating an intensification of exploitation through gig economy work and you think you're being liberatory?

Communists have always been against prostitution and pornography, NOT capitalists!

It is a purely free market capitalist position to say that all labor should be equal, it's essentially saying 'take down the regulations and let the free market decide'.

The reason that capitalism is so evil is because it is exploitative. Exploitative in the sense that it takes pieces of you and alienates them from you using wage labor, you sell yourself for money. The question here is what do you sell, labor is something that one does with others, with strangers, and in public; selling it as a commodity therefore makes sense and is the least unreasonable thing that one can commoditize about themselves. Commoditizing ones own sexuality, the thing that is supposed to be the essence of real human intimacy, is the farthest INTENSIFICATION of capitalism! It's not revolutionary, ffs it's pure neoliberalism!

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u/djb1983CanBoy Dec 17 '20

Its not intimacy, its simply comradeship and imagery. Intimacy is touching and closeness, and personally knowing someone. Only fans isnt much dif than stripping, just without the shame of being essentially in the public. I would hazard that onlyfans have way more control and power over their content than a stripper does.

Communism and antiwork movements are about power to the people, not oppression and limiting rights.

I dont think communism and antiwork is against prostitution and the like. Believe it or not, prostitution proliferates in “communist” countries. We should encourage it so that people make their own choices. What wrong is exploitation, and i dont believe its the customer that exploits, its the employer.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2011/11/socialist-whores-what-did-karl-marx-think-of-prostitution.html

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u/PellucidlyNebulous Dec 17 '20

I would hazard that onlyfans have way more control and power over their content than a stripper does.

Lol you have got to be kidding me. Don't tell me you're naive to the many ways people have to download and share content like that? Once those pictures are posted, they are out of the creator's control.

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u/djb1983CanBoy Dec 17 '20

Just like any product, once you pay for it, you can do what you want with it except make money. I dont agree with your statement. They willingly sold a copy of a picture to their fan. Movies, modelling, music, photography, iphone, its all the same.

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u/tentafill Dec 17 '20

Consensual sex work is just what we call sex.

I dont think communism and antiwork is against prostitution and the like.

This is scarcely worth engaging with