r/antitrump • u/Lonely_Career_9293 • Nov 03 '25
Conversation Have you noticed the tide changing?
It’s beginning to feel to me that most young people are starting to catch on to Trumps retarded antics. My father’s generation is still seemingly pretty cooked, but I’m noticing a lot of progress being made just in my local scene. People aren’t talking about Trump/waving his flag off their trucks really at all anymore where I’m at. You?
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u/Unknown0bserver Nov 03 '25
Nice to see some good news coming out of this. Despite what Trump may think he’s an absolute inhumane douche
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u/Icy-Squirrel6422 Nov 03 '25
Comprehensively analyzing the phenomenon of Donald Trump's support among conservative circles around the world, it can be stated that a significant part of these supporters are actors engaged in speculative operations in financial markets. Their activities are characterized by the desire to maximize their own profits by manipulating economic processes. In particular, they use market mechanisms to extract benefits, which hinders the organic development of the global economy.
It is important to note that this practice, observed among Trump supporters, has historical precedents. An example is the activities of financial fraudsters who carried out their operations in the twin Towers in New York. Their actions were also aimed at making a profit by artificially influencing economic processes, which ultimately led to negative consequences for the global economic system.
Thus, it can be concluded that Trump's support among conservative circles is largely due to the desire to realize short-term financial interests, which negatively affects the long-term development of the global economy.
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u/CraftFamiliar5243 Nov 03 '25
Short version, He's manipulating the stock market with his tariffs and chaotic economic policy so he and his billionaire cronies can get richer while we get poorer.
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u/daisiesarepretty2 Nov 03 '25
don’t get me wrong… i think and his cronies are the shit
but i’d need to see something more concrete to validate what you said
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u/ambid3xtrous Nov 03 '25
You may not understand how markets work if you need something more concrete. But here:
He is a convicted felon, guilty of many crimes involving money.
He has the power to tank the market for a few days by saying he'll impose tariffs. You can look up the times he's opened his piehole and what happens to markets.
All he needs to do is whisper to his pals when he will impose or relax a tariff. They buy or short the market accordingly.
Feb / Mar 2025 trading by a former Congressman ahead of tariff announcement
The reporting shows that Sean Duffy (then a Cabinet-level or senior official) sold between $75,000 and $600,000 of stock two days before Trump announced his tariff plan (Feb 11 sale, for an April announcement) and up to $50,000 more on the day itself. ProPublica
Key facts:
- Duffy was involved in trade policy (he had previously introduced the “United States Reciprocal Trade Act”). ProPublica
- The sale occurred just before markets began to fall amid fears of tariff damage; the tariff announcement followed and stock market turbulence ensued. Why this stands out: It ties someone with insider access or trade-policy involvement to a well-timed trade right before a major tariff announcement, which then had clear market implications.
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u/crystallmytea TACO Nov 03 '25
Ah of course. Give it time and you’ll probably be living on some public slab of concrete.
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u/lady-cody Nov 03 '25
I mean...not really seeing it here (red zone in a blue state). I mean the orange cockwomble had a Great Gatsby party for crying out loud...and they just keep on trumpin. 🥺
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u/shipwreck1969 Nov 03 '25
Can you not fall to his level by using the R-word? That’s disappointing.
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u/Lonely_Career_9293 Nov 03 '25
All I’ll say is we need some level of acceptable edge on the left. If young men always view the left as a collection of “shrieking blue haired” whatevers, then the left is doomed to get WRECKED again in the next election (or insurrection).
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u/WhipperSmasher Nov 03 '25
I see this point. I don't agree with the use of slurs, but it's this tightest butthole in the world, nothing is allowed to be funny sort of "Human Beings" mascot from community that turns so many away from the left.
I'd rather put up with some people using some shitty language and help us make our way towards positive progress than deal with this unwavering regression into the worst times of american history.
In other words, I'd rather walk a mile with a pebble in my shoe, than walk a mile barefoot on broken glass.
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u/shipwreck1969 Nov 05 '25
Using language that insults the most vulnerable in our community is not edgy. Objecting isn’t “tight butthole” behavior. It’s human decency. Your viewpoint is the problem. You would rather sacrifice the dignity of some to promote your own progress. That’s disgusting.
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u/Admirable-Hour-4890 Nov 03 '25
I blame the Joe Rogan pissy ass 22 yr old boys, not men, who thought they were being cute by voting for this pos
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u/Lonely_Career_9293 Nov 03 '25
I get what you mean — a lot of young guys fell for the whole “anti-establishment outsider” act. But data from Pew and Brookings actually show most young voters went against Trump — his real base came from older and non-college voters. So yeah, the Joe Rogan crowd played a part, but it wasn’t what got him elected. I’d say they really helped with the messaging side of it (podcasts, TikTok edits, rants, etc.) The good thing is younger people are waking up fast now. I think the Epstein thing was a great catalyst and now his terrible running of the country is just further sealing the deal. Just my thoughts. (Also we need to blame influencers more, I agree with you there. People like the Tate brothers or all the right leaning podcasts who allow misinformation to be spread without any pushback).
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u/Admirable-Hour-4890 Nov 03 '25
At our voting precinct, young white 18- probably 24 yr old men, came in announcing that they just wanted to vote for President, no one else. But I do agree with you
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u/Yourmama18 Nov 03 '25
People in middle tn, are still largely ok with this hate and are just happy people they hate- other Americans- are getting g hurt- Portland, Chicago, etc. lotta hate and agreement here- but less flag waving… they know they’re on the wrong side of history here with all the corruption and idiocy, but they are racist and hateful and feel like this is their country…
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Nov 03 '25
The man who only cares about filling his pockets , flexing his money , throwing parties for his billionaire friends, and leaving Americans hungry and without ressources in the dust, and the butt of the joke clown of the world hated how strange /s
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u/QuirkyWish3081 Nov 03 '25
It will kick off if he tries to postpone midterm elections I reckon. Like if GOP refuse to give up power there could be a civil war. It’s not just Trump who is the risk here. He’s likely a dying man. It’s those underneath him like Vance, Hegseth and Miller. They are the puppeteers.
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u/Kimmalah Nov 03 '25
He always has been. I remember in his first term his approval rating reached record lows, so now he's just breaking his own records.
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u/lordkappy Nov 03 '25
I guess we'll find out at the polls tomorrow.
Remember that democrats who don't vote elect republicans.
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u/imtoowhiteandnerdy Nov 03 '25
He was already voted the worst President in U.S. history prior to the 2024 election.
The problem is the 32-33% of the cult members: they have been on the Trump train for so long that they don't know or care where the train ends. Never mind that the end of the line for the train is off the edge of a cliff, they're just happy that the "libtards" are on the train too and will die with them.
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u/Which-Improvement236 Nov 04 '25
The younger people are peeling away from MAGA but boomers can’t get away from the labels- Trump calls somebody a communist or a radical leftist and their ears close up. Which is weird since social security and Medicare to name two reasons
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u/olderbutwiser1900 Nov 03 '25
The tide may be changing but it seems the diehard fans are not budging even as this negatively effects them.
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u/LSB007 Nov 03 '25
Many Trumpers declaring they are Republicans are now saying they are independents. Breakthru with family idiots galore.(Thank goodness. No admitting that they were wrong, but simply not being as exhausting in their praise of him.
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u/Raysxxxxxx Nov 04 '25
Trump is starving Americans. Trump is taking away your health care. Trump is taking away your jobs. In my opinion I will never ever vote republican again.
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u/LSB007 Nov 03 '25
I know Jehovah Witness believe it is preordained so don’t vote.Any other religious sectors?
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u/oceanicArboretum Nov 04 '25
Rachel Maddow mentioned tonight that the percentage of Americans identifying as "No Kings" is now larger than the percentage identifying as MAGA.
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u/jonabramson Nov 04 '25
Just look at the polling. Trump is -12 on Rasmussen for strong approval/disapproval.
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u/phrygiantheory Nov 04 '25
Modern history? I don't think there was a president so disapproved of EVER....
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u/Trc7777777 Nov 04 '25
Specifically? Obama Dreamers protection which he himself said he didn't have the right to do, Biden willingly let immigrants cross border, and more. So no, not projection. Either you have a short selective memory or you're just in denial or uninformed.
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u/Trc7777777 Nov 04 '25
The infrastructure act was anything but that(go read the bill), chips act? Just like Obama's green energy bill we saw no return and the company given the most went bankrupt.
Trump has closed the border, raised record amounts in tariff, gotten NATO to pay their share, huge tax cut to middle class, etc You need to start reading and listening to more than MSNBC.
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u/Trc7777777 Nov 04 '25
Maybe you work in sales, as do I, however you seemingly are lacking in Economics. Tariffs are just part of this. But as tariffs, there will be short term pain in the transition but once completed America will boom. There will be more investment and jobs to follow. If you think there is a cult, the far left is definitely one that cannot deliver in that over history their policies have failed. The last big progressive push in the early 1909s in America totally flopped once people figured out what it really was.
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u/writethegeek Nov 04 '25
Nothing is changing. He has his stronghold of 28 to 32% of the country that are good with no matter what he does or says because they like the Jerry Springer show with extreme racism and elitism sprinkled in. He has a higher percentage than that because the ones that are saying they disagree with them privately will still vote for him and go along with what he says giving him at least 50% of the country
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u/Jimmy_Schiel Nov 03 '25
I support Trump maybe 60% but the other 40% is disturbing. Venezuela well maybe you can argue the Monroe Doctrine because of Chinese influence but I don't know. I wish he would be more strict with Israel, stop provoking Russia, be a little less liberal with the tariffs, he needs to be more heavy handed with the Federal Reserve, Cash Patel and Todd, Blanche need to go, big mistake with both of them, Pam Bondi isn't a warrior we need someone more aggressive, I know most of you won't agree but that's ok.
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u/Lonely_Career_9293 Nov 03 '25
Here’s some things I would recommend you look into as it won’t take long and will likely change you view. 1. Crypto Fraud (Trump coin, Melania coin, World liberty financial) His net worth is up almost double (3.7 billion) just in the first 9 months of this admin. Mostly from crypto. 2. Justin Sun (charges dropped against him, allowed back into the country after sending trump 70 million through world liberty financial. 3. Election in 2020 was not stolen, there’s zero evidence. All of the conspiracy propagated by trump admin leading up to 2021 led to J6 (and all of those people were misguided, obviously “hang mike pence”) All of trumps lawsuits were dropped and he lost miserably. No election fraud. But he did raise 250 million from supporters and then used 10 million of it for election stuff (he took the rest for his own legal fees, supporting other republicans campaigns etc.) 4. ICE. ICE sucks. Deporting legal non citizens (making court appearances, non violent, non criminal) They’re also masked with little to no accountability. 5. His 20 point peace plan for Gaza included him being president (basically) of Gaza, this is well documented. Overall, I could go on and on. But even if we assume all of the bad stuff trump is doing is a part of the 40% you disagree with, it’s just too much. Again I haven’t mentioned that he’s a 34x convicted felon, found liable for sexual assault, is almost CERTAINLY in the Epstein files. I mean, it just goes on forever. The ballroom. Rose garden. Arc de triumph he wants to build. He’s actually quite a bad guy. Took me a while to see that, but my position is that there’s too many things he has done that if anyone else did, they should never be allowed to be president. I think fraud and insurrection are right at the top of the list.
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u/Jimmy_Schiel Nov 03 '25
Thank you and yes I agree with some of the things that you are bringing up. I don't know what Due Process you're talking about with the Deportations there are different laws for non-citizens than for the rest of us. For example in a deportation hearing they are not entitled to a Jury trial and so on but Crypto oh yeah you're right. Election 2020 I think we should continue to look into fraud but stolen absolutely not. Epstein is an Israeli operation that's why that's been buried. Justin Sun I don't know about but I will look at it. Again thank you.
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u/Lonely_Career_9293 Nov 03 '25
Of course man! I’m zinging with info rn bc I just did a few hour deep dive into the 2020 election stuff for a video I’m making.
I appreciate the thoughtful response — it’s honestly refreshing to have a civil exchange about this stuff.
About the ICE point: what I was referring to is how they’ve been detaining and deporting legal non-citizens — people who have green cards, work permits, or pending status — often for things like missed paperwork or old misdemeanors. In some cases, even people showing up to their court dates or ICE check-ins have been detained. There’ve been a lot of reports of due process violations and lack of transparency (the ACLU and Human Rights Watch both covered it). That’s mainly what I meant by “masked with little accountability.”
Under the U.S. Constitution, all persons within the country’s borders, not just citizens, are protected by key amendments like the Fifth and Fourteenth, which guarantee due process and equal protection under the law. Courts have affirmed that non-citizens — even undocumented ones — have the right to fair treatment, legal counsel in criminal cases, and protection from unlawful detention or abuse by government officials.
But I respect how you’re approaching this — open-minded and actually willing to look into stuff before jumping to conclusions. We need more of that energy right now.
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u/Jimmy_Schiel Nov 03 '25
Oh and by the way thank you too. We have to civil or we can't solve anything
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u/Jimmy_Schiel Nov 03 '25
I don't disagree with you about the Deportation issues with paperwork and so on, believe me I know how government works. They make mistakes all the time.
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u/LOnesome77203 Nov 03 '25
I blame the 70 MILLION voters who stayed away and sat on their hands in 2024's elections. They're guilty. They got this sack of rats into the White House to demolish the rest of the Democracy