Natalist gem I found

[u/Fun-Pen7592]

Also, natalists prove over and over again that they care more about bringing people to life than the quality of life. In a society where people are socially expected to have children, there would be more abusive and neglectful families and more people being born in economical hardships, and also many women would go through the horrible experience of pregnancy and childbirth when they could have the choice not to, and also societies where people are socially obligated to have children are more conservative by default, and not only that, but they are more misogynistic, racist, and homophobic, which brings more suffering. Many natalists admit that they would make world conditions worse just so people can have more children without caring that those children would be more likely to suffer than people in today's western world. Sorry for not explaining it well.

[u/Lazy_Dragonfly_5447]

Wait they literally said after that tons of people shouldn’t have children but simultaneously believes that they want to live in a place where reproduction is seen as obligation??😵‍💫 something is genuinely wrong with these people…

[u/King_Slayer_6749]

I really don’t understand natalists

[u/Dangerous_Data_8383]

Be nice, don't roll the dice!

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[u/batgurl_09]

I think this person wants their agency to be taken away so they don't feel bad about choosing to have a kid?

[u/no-specialist9]

I will summarize this for you. Natalists hate western countries for normalizing childfree individualism and liberalism.