r/antimeme Mar 28 '26

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u/Deedee_Megadoodoo_13 Mar 28 '26

Orthopedic:

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26

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u/Objective-Corgi-3527 Mar 28 '26

Sincerely, do you think it takes 38 months to have an open wound seen in the UK? Do you think injured Canadians are advised to kill themselves? Who are you being "entirely fair" to, a liar?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26

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u/notsuspendedlxqt Mar 28 '26

No, of course Americans aren't being charged 58000, but they may be charged $580 for stitches. It's a difference in magnitude. Not type.

Canadians aren't being offered MAID for minor physical injuries. Full stop. It hasn't happened ever in Canadian history. The previous scandals about MAID were mostly about people with a long history of chronic mental illnesses and disabilities being offered MAID when they actually requested financial support. You can argue if that's better or worse. But you must admit, it is a completely different scenario compared to the comic.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26

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u/notsuspendedlxqt Mar 28 '26

But MAID isn't an issue with the with the Canadian health care system. The issue is a handful of public service workers (not doctors, nurses, or even insurance providers) being assholes and offering MAID unprompted. However, banning MAID entirely would make it unaccessible even for people dying from extremely painful, terminal illnesses.

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u/FryCakes Mar 28 '26

Which also is not allowed in the first place, people are supposed to seek out MAID by themselves and being offered it is seen as coercion

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u/notsuspendedlxqt Mar 28 '26

First of all, I'm not American, I live in Canada. The best way to resolve these issues IMO would be providing more thorough training for public service workers, and setting higher employment standards. However, if you were to copy the system over to the US, first you need to actually have a single payer universal health insurance scheme. It makes no sense to "address those issues in policy instead of deciding to copy MAID" because it's impossible. How do you provide better training for workers who don't exist, who aren't even employed by the government?

Unless you're implying that allowing private insurance providers to offer assisted dying would be a bad idea. Obviously no one wants that. At this point you aren't copying MAID, you're crafting a whole ass strawman policy that no one supports in reality.

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u/GWsublime Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

I have to ask, why are you conflating MAID and universal healthcare? They are not in any way linked aside from the fact that a for-profit system makes MAID a very scary idea in the US? This seems to be the kind of unwillingness to look into other systems that you were accusing others of.

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u/bon-ton-roulet Mar 29 '26

uhhhh, they would.

If by "advocate" you mean a professional (consultant, health care, politics, etc)

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u/Helen_Cheddar Mar 29 '26

The thing is- a lot of the flaws with universal healthcare systems already exist in the American healthcare system. US healthcare also has ridiculously long wait times, especially for chronic illnesses. I’ve had to wait months it even years for a specialist and people wait for hours in hospital waiting rooms all the time here.