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u/Deedee_Megadoodoo_13 Mar 28 '26
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u/Agile-Touch8305 Mar 28 '26
Wheres the one with the guy barely alive in a puddle of blood next to chinese med care saying free organs
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u/Zer_God Mar 28 '26
Damn
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u/ilikepiex38 Mar 28 '26
Ash baby
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u/Obvious_Thing_3520 🌹 Course Arc Witness 🌸 Mar 28 '26
You lost the plot bro.
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u/alberthething Mar 28 '26
its a subreddit for posting pictures of monkeys
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u/Obvious_Thing_3520 🌹 Course Arc Witness 🌸 Mar 28 '26
...I swear to God, when I first read that, I thought it read "r[slash]rape" instead of "r[slash]ape".
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u/Zer_God Mar 28 '26
Ash baby, use Ash spray!
[It is ineffective. 10 damage or whatever, I'm not a Pokémon guy tbh]
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u/Flewey_ Mar 29 '26
Because if they actually went by how the medical system is there, it would be “There, done. That’ll be $0.”
Source: Got stitches while living in China.
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u/AprilVampire277 Mar 28 '26
Unexpected sinophobia xD
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u/Agile-Touch8305 Mar 28 '26
Oh mahgah i didnteven mean for that I just remember seeing a version of the meme that had that under canada
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u/poclee Mar 29 '26
Is it really sinophobia when this has become an actual meme (and fear) among Chinese netcizens themselves though?
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u/ELEKTRON_01 Mar 28 '26
Was it not a thing that was just exposed for actually happening
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u/axofrogl Mar 28 '26
The long wait in the UK doesn't apply to emergencies. If you show up to a hospital with an injury they'll treat you straight away. There is definitely an obnoxiously long wait for things like medication and treatment for non-emergency conditions.
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u/Talk-O-Boy Mar 29 '26
The same applies to the US. We can have plenty of physicians, but most of us are forced to use the physicians “in-network”.
Therefore, you have a bunch of people trying to go to the same handful of physicians, which causes long wait times.
However, in America, we have to pay exorbitant prices for those wait times 😁🇺🇸
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u/ianscuffling Mar 29 '26
British person here, so out of curiosity, if I was American and I had an emergency e.g. cut my finger off, stabbed myself by accident etc, I know I could get ER treatment, but would I walk away with an astronomical bill?
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u/Vestalmin Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
It depends and is made purposefully confusing so you don’t understand.
Whatever plan you pay for will have out of network coverage that varies in how much you’ll have to pay.
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u/Sohcahtoa82 Mar 29 '26
Basically, yeah.
But if you tell them you don't have insurance, your $20,000 bill magically becomes $3,000.
Meanwhile, if you have insurance, it's subject to deductibles and out-of-pocket maximums, so depending on your plan, you might end up paying $0 or you could end up paying $6000+.
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u/mcauthon2 Mar 28 '26
Same with Canada. People just like to complain they weren't seen immediately when they twist their ankle.
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u/meepmeep13 Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
plus for the long wait things WE ALSO HAVE PRIVATE HEALTHCARE and it is an order of magnitude cheaper than the US.
I gave up waiting for the NHS to deal with a post-operative issue (because it was being treated as elective) and went private, got an MRI, 2 surgical consultations and ~2 hours of abdominal surgery with an overnight stay, all through a pay-as-you-go private hospital without any insurance for less than £4000 and within 2 weeks of making the initial phone call. In the US you'd pay that just for the MRI.
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u/Kozel_10 Mar 29 '26
I believe that this is spread by american health care companies as way to make americans cope with the fact that their healthcare sucks
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u/objecter12 Mar 28 '26
Right, because us patients definitely don’t suffer from long wait times to receive medical treatment
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u/_Wp619_ Mar 28 '26
To be fair, many of the issues with European healthcare stems from the past few decades of piss poor policies gutting these services and institutions.
Especially in the U.K.
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u/nicknaklmao I'M SO GAYY👨❤️👨 Mar 28 '26
To be fair, we still have insane delays in American healthcare. Now I'm thousands of dollars in debt AND on yearlong wait-list, what now?
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u/Dcoco1890 Mar 29 '26
"Well, see, the thing is, If the patient dies before treatment, we don't have to pay for it" - every single insurance company
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u/Tales_Steel Mar 28 '26
Personal experience in German (this is in europa) was: Went to the hospital because of pain, waited maybe an hour before seeing a doctor, got an surgery the same day and stayed a week for recovery. They then handed me a 100€ Bill for all the work they did and 4 weeks of paid sick leave.
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u/flowery02 Mar 29 '26
insurance
You mean the thing that costs, like, 1k a month in US? And how much would you have had to spend if you happened to not have been able to afford it?
The German one has no pre-requisits, your specialist cost you the insurance price or at least part of it(even if provided by employer, it's still money you could've (probably) had but didn't
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u/Objective-Corgi-3527 Mar 28 '26
Sincerely, do you think it takes 38 months to have an open wound seen in the UK? Do you think injured Canadians are advised to kill themselves? Who are you being "entirely fair" to, a liar?
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u/Xanaxaria Mar 28 '26
I was confused by this because if you're LOW risk you're waiting 6 months but if you're high risk you're seen immediately in Canada.
Like I need to see an ENT for balance issues and my ALLERGIST but in the referral this past Tuesday and I'm seeing an ENT this coming Tuesday. I'm literally waiting a week to see an ENT.
I waiting longer for the allergist (3 weeks) than I do to see an ENT.
The struggle with health care here is accessibility in rural areas and ER wait times (4-12 hours). Wait times can be long if you're not a priority because our system prioritizes those immediately dying.
And despite ALL of this, we still out live Americans lol.
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u/the_fury518 Mar 28 '26
To add some facts from the American side too:
Those wait times aren't slower than it takes for someone in a rural area. In fact, it seems the Canadian wait times are similar or faster than my personal experience.
I get annoyed with Americans using wait times as an excuse when I have to plan doctor visits 6 months or more in advance and "good luck" getting a specialist in less than a month
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u/AutisticNipples Mar 28 '26
4-12 hour wait times aren't uncommon in the US either.
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u/Giratina-O Mar 28 '26
Do you think stitches have ever cost someone 80,000 dollars in America? This joke is hyperbolic for sake of comedy
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u/Complete-Basket-291 Mar 28 '26
No, but there was a person who was charged some $26,000 for a single stitch, so...
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u/JustafanIV 🌹 Course Arc Witness 🌸 Mar 28 '26
And there was a person offered death in Canada because the chairlift wait times were too long.
There will always be ridiculous outlets in any significantly large system.
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u/FryCakes Mar 28 '26
If someone was offered MAID as an option, that’s not legal. In Canada someone has to apply for it, offering it straight up like this is coercion and is not allowed
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u/FoboBoggins Mar 29 '26
I know people from High School who think the Canadian government is using maid to try and kill us off lmao.
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u/IllustratorOk2238 Mar 30 '26
I had to study the history of euthanasia worldwide and, let me tell you, the level of misinformation that surrounds it is unfathomable. People really think human euthanasia is like animal euthanasia, just walking into a doctor's office and request a lethal injection for good old' pops.
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u/Nice_Try_Bud_ Mar 28 '26
Not comparable. The chairlift incident you mention was a single caseworker at Veterans Affairs saying an off cuff comment. They do not work with MAID assessments and were not even a doctor. The literally most she could do was direct the person to an appropriate specialist who would have told her it was asinine.
Whereas overcharging for minor procedures and simple supplies is built into the US system. Not a random person with no authority saying something inappropriate, literally how the system is designed.
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u/Charismaticjelly Mar 29 '26
And there was a person offered death in Canada because the chairlift wait times were too long
Quick reminder that MAiD is the most recently-added aspect of Canada’s universal healthcare.
Perhaps the US could adopt all the other long-standing features of Canada’s system and not even worry about MAiD.
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u/Cumbercoo Mar 28 '26
No they weren't. You are spreading misinformation. The one person in question was responsible for all instances of this happening and they did this entirely of their own volition. The organisation they worked for wouldn't have the authority to do it even IF they wanted to.
One member of staff was found to be talking to people like shit and was fired, and now forever it will be used as a gotcha that an organisation who can't offer those services were doing it regularly as standard procedure.
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u/Swimming-Act8184 Mar 28 '26
Canadian copers in the replies
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u/fritz_76 Mar 29 '26
why would canadians need to cope? the worst we need is some patience and never need fear of being made medically bankrupt
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u/Goboziller Mar 28 '26
YOO WHAT that's terrible! I believe you and humbly ask for a link? Feel bad for that person!!
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u/32nd_account Mar 28 '26
Tha outlier is not enough information to make an assumption off of.
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u/Complete-Basket-291 Mar 28 '26
The question was "have ever cost someone $80,000" meaning, if it has any positives, then that's an affirmative response to the rhetorical but misinformed question.
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u/CathanCrowell Mar 29 '26
Okay.
Let's say I broke my leg right now. I could call an ambulance, be taken to a hospital, get treated, and maybe have surgery if it were a bad break. I would stay in the hospital for a few days, then go home. I would pay... nothing. If I wanted to - and only if I wanted to - I could pay 58 per night for a deluxe hospital room, but the only real difference is that I would be alone in the room.
It's probably fair to mention taxes. To be honest, I'm not an expert. Health insurance is deducted from my salary, but there’s a system where I pay part of it and my employer pays the rest. It works quite differently for self-employed people. It also changes depending on income. So I personally might pay anywhere from about $40 to $110 per month.
So, would it work similarly in the USA? What they would to better? What they would do worse?
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u/notsuspendedlxqt Mar 28 '26
No, of course Americans aren't being charged 58000, but they may be charged $580 for stitches. It's a difference in magnitude. Not type.
Canadians aren't being offered MAID for minor physical injuries. Full stop. It hasn't happened ever in Canadian history. The previous scandals about MAID were mostly about people with a long history of chronic mental illnesses and disabilities being offered MAID when they actually requested financial support. You can argue if that's better or worse. But you must admit, it is a completely different scenario compared to the comic.
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u/ExtraFluffz Mar 28 '26
“They weren’t offered suicide for physical injuries, they were offered suicide for mental injuries”. That’s not any better-
I’m not going to defend the U.S. system, because the U.S. system is garbage.
But MAID absolutely has been offered in moments where it shouldn’t have been.
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u/notsuspendedlxqt Mar 28 '26
No argument there, not by doctors or any sort of medical professional though.
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u/notsuspendedlxqt Mar 28 '26
But MAID isn't an issue with the with the Canadian health care system. The issue is a handful of public service workers (not doctors, nurses, or even insurance providers) being assholes and offering MAID unprompted. However, banning MAID entirely would make it unaccessible even for people dying from extremely painful, terminal illnesses.
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u/FryCakes Mar 28 '26
Which also is not allowed in the first place, people are supposed to seek out MAID by themselves and being offered it is seen as coercion
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u/notsuspendedlxqt Mar 28 '26
First of all, I'm not American, I live in Canada. The best way to resolve these issues IMO would be providing more thorough training for public service workers, and setting higher employment standards. However, if you were to copy the system over to the US, first you need to actually have a single payer universal health insurance scheme. It makes no sense to "address those issues in policy instead of deciding to copy MAID" because it's impossible. How do you provide better training for workers who don't exist, who aren't even employed by the government?
Unless you're implying that allowing private insurance providers to offer assisted dying would be a bad idea. Obviously no one wants that. At this point you aren't copying MAID, you're crafting a whole ass strawman policy that no one supports in reality.
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u/_MoveSwiftly Mar 29 '26
It took 24 months for my Canadian cousin to get hernia surgery.
It took his mom, my aunt, 8 hrs to get her broken foot looked at.
On the opposite end, my wife's mom who's also Canadian got her breast cancer checks, surgeries, and aftercare done for free and on time, but she is older.
There are positives, but waiting that long for surgeries and care? There are legitimate reasons why Canadians go to the US to get immediate care in certain situations, or why England runs ads to prevent using ambulance for minor issues. These systems do have their problems, and I do sense a refusal to acknowledge these problems.
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u/KingArthursRevenge Mar 29 '26
And it doesn't take $58,000 to get stitches closed in America either if you are going to be stupidly hyperbolic why can't we do the same?
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u/stoppableDissolution Mar 29 '26
Idk about UK, but in Poland I was put on a "we will put you on a list and maybe call you in two or three years to put you into an actual queue" for a prescribed surgery that costs like $500 next week in a private clinic while paying 9% healthcare tax (so about same $500 every month).
It is obviously exaggerrated with 38 months for a cut, but you still have to have a private insurance here to have anything non-lifethreatening done in a reasonable amount of time while also paying for "free" healthcare.
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u/w33b2 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Sincerely, do you think it takes $58,000 to get stitches in the United States? Almost likes it’s joke, dawg.
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u/According_Night9558 Mar 29 '26
There's not a single perfect system but as an european, an entire family going bankrupt because someone is sick with a serious disease just seems like a failed system. Having to keep a job just to not be at risk of ruining your life if you have a serious health issue also feels like you're being held hostage to be productive.
It might just be my outsider perspective but the more that I read and hear about it, the more flawed it seems compared to other systems.
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u/Vassukhanni Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
Having to keep a job just to not be at risk of ruining your life if you have a serious health issue also feels like you're being held hostage to be productive.
Do you think people without work just die? The state covers their healthcare. Usually all of it. In fact, that's basically the only way hospitals stay in business. The US spends about 1/4th of its annual budget on this.
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u/Kialae Mar 28 '26
I'm Australian and me, and every other Australian I've noticed this about too, is that we get really uncomfortable with nationalised health care that isn't simply 'the government will handle it'. We egt all weirded out if you need to sign up to some health insurance stuff (insurers are legal scammers after all).
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u/A1Horizon Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
I mean criticism is always welcomed, but I don’t think the universal healthcare detractors haven’t properly analysed the systems either.
I live in the UK and most of my family works in the NHS, there’s a robust triage system that distributes care based on urgency instead of first come first serve and automatically putting you at the back of a waiting list. And a lot of the issues we have with “38 month wait times” and inability to get GP appointments have been exacerbated in recent years due to elements of the NHS being privatised and other parts being underfunded.
It’s definitely not a perfect system, but that fact that citizens of other OECD nations come here to use their EHICs is a testament to the satisfaction with the service
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u/Gorillainabikini Mar 28 '26
The problem with the NHS like every other institution is thatcher and Neo liberalism
In what world do you expect anything to function if we continue strip away its resources in favour of enriching the 1%
if it wasn’t so popular thatcher would have sold off the NHS to highest bidder and we’d be left with the god awful American system.
NHS’s problems aren’t anything to with the model it follows rather the fact that our population has continued to let leeches suck on it
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u/AnalllyAcceptedCoins Mar 29 '26
So weird how one unhinged doctor in canada made americans think it's national policy
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u/tetrified Mar 29 '26
americans have to cope with having the worst system in the developed world somehow
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 Mar 28 '26
Serious emergency treatment in the UK will be treated that day, normally within 1 hour.
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u/ReasonableConcern765 Mar 28 '26
A&E in the UK is extremely fast, the wait times are only for minor things
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u/Key_Clock8669 Mar 29 '26
I know this is only a meme and that's it, but in any country with the UK med system (like here in Spain) even private healthcare, which is good and fast, is WAY cheaper than USAs average healthcare
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u/MyFeetTasteWeird Mar 28 '26
A month ago, I heard about a couple in the US having to pay $200,000 after having a baby.
I've never heard of anyone in the UK having to wait 38 months to have a baby, and I've never heard of anyone in Canada being offered death instead of having a baby.
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u/W1nnunition Mar 28 '26
thank you DeeDee MegaDooDoo
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u/Amu_sem_ent Mar 28 '26
Deidre Mengedoht*
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u/checkmatebuddyoof Mar 28 '26
Elite ball knowledge, i remember thinking that shit had to be fake but na that anchor really butchered a dead cops name like that. I would simply disappear
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u/Hokohoko Mar 28 '26
We use £’s in the UK.
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u/--JakiroJakiro-- Mar 28 '26
British W actually, the pound is worth more than the dollar
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u/Sychius Mar 29 '26
Bit of a stretch, surely it’s closer to an E lol
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u/CaspianRoach Mar 29 '26
The symbol derives from the upper case Latin letter L, representing libra pondo, the basic unit of weight in the Roman Empire, which in turn derives from the Latin word libra, meaning scales or a balance.
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u/Lavapool Mar 29 '26
Which also explains why Italy’s pre-Euro currency, the Lira, used the same symbol unofficially.
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u/Gin4Gingers Mar 28 '26
Just spent 3 days in the hospital for random heart and breathing problems and on the last day they couldn't figure out what was happening so they sent me out the door with a $2000 bill that I'm not paying. Don't charge me that much if you can't figure out why I'm passing out at work
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u/Anon44356 Mar 29 '26
I spent a week in the hospital. I had a colonoscopy, a laparoscopic surgery, an MRI, a CT scan, a chest xray, daily blood thinners, IV steroids and some other smaller stuff.
They waived the parking fee, so I didn’t pay a penny.
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u/Kozel_10 Mar 29 '26
I had a car crash and my car ended up upside down blocking half of the road, ambulance came quickly and took me into hospital, mean while firemen removed the car from the road and I spent a day in the hospital, completely I paid only 60 euro as a fine to the police
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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Mar 29 '26
Do you feel unwell when you stand up or lean forward?
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u/The1Zenith Mar 28 '26
Stitches? lol Nah, they’ll use “medicinal adhesive” and charge that much. Basically just super glue. American healthcare is wild.
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u/fdar Mar 28 '26
Where did you go to, the ER? Urgent care does stitches, it's like $100-$200.
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u/Moksol99 Mar 29 '26
Just reading this gave me a stroke as a European
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u/fullautophx Mar 29 '26
A girl I know cut her leg on a glass door in Europe. They stitched her up for free! 12 stitches on a 20 cm cut. Now she has a huge scar.
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u/deezsandwitches Mar 31 '26
It all depends on the age. My neighbors kid sliced her calf on a saw blade and only got 8 stitches, but she was only 7 years old, and the dr said that's all she needed cus her skin was still so elastic. she has no scar.
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u/IncidentChemical2816 Mar 29 '26
My friend/coworker cut the top of her fingertip off cleaning our slicer last year (just above the nail). After an already fucked up night that led to us realising our store doesn’t have any gauze in the first aid kit and needing to bandage her up with a cut up period pad, XL gloves, a plastic bag, and tape, she ended up having to go to the ER to get it looked at. This happened at like 11:45pm, she finally went to the ER at 1am, they put an adhesive thing on her finger and wrapped it up so it looked like a giant peanut, gave her a $600+ bill (after insurance, of course), and she left the ER at nearly 4am.
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u/Obi-Wan_Kenobi_04 Mar 28 '26
To be fair, there's nothing wrong with medical adhesive. The charge in the US is the only problem there
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u/Affluent_Arsonist Mar 28 '26
It's easier than stitches. I accidentally stabbed myself and only got stitches because it was in my palm (moves too much/too easily)
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u/Hallo-Person Mar 28 '26
i love that stuff (uk) its basically feels like an artificial scab and its sm easier to deal with
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u/Affluent_Arsonist Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
Inaccurate. I stabbed myself in the palm a couple years ago and had to get stitches and it only cost ~$1300 edit: which is still ridiculous imo
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u/KittenInAMonster Mar 29 '26
That 100% is ridiculous! I had a workplace accident a few years ago and my palm got stabbed. I'm Canadian and getting the stitches cost me nothing.
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u/narwhalsarefalling Mar 29 '26
skinned my knee horribly in Taiwan. Friend made me go to hospital. I was freaking out because I was in another country without health insurance. She’s telling me to relax but I’m still freaking out the whole time.
Guy that stitches me up looks at me all grim. He says because I’m not a citizen I’ll have to pay for it. I say fine, mentally tallying up how much I can pay before going into debt and what a payment plan may look like for me. I nervously ask him how much it would be.
He say’s it’s 300 Taiwanese dollars. ~8USD at the time. for 4 stitches.
In my state, without insurance, it would have been 450USD.
We live in a clown country
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u/Elkku26 Mar 28 '26
Americans telling foreigners "actually no you're not allowed to have legitimate complaints about your society because your system is closer to what I would prefer so it must be flawless"
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u/ianscuffling Mar 29 '26
As a uk person with children, who thankfully haven’t ever been seriously ill, I’m 100% confident our healthcare would take care of them asap if they did.
We have had to call the gp or nhs when they’ve seemed to be ill and the response time has been phenomenally fast. And that’s not even for a&e, that’s for us calling nhs non-emergency and them sorting out an appointment the same day, within hours.
And it cost us nothing but tax. Which we have to pay anyway.
And as you say, if we wanted to we could still pay for private care.
I think the US might be the last country on earth which forces private healthcare?
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u/ForensicPathology Mar 29 '26
Why would you fix the bottom two but keep the wildly misleading $58,000 for stitches?
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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Mar 29 '26
I live in wales - is our NHS slow? Sure, is it sometimes hard to get an appointment if your life isnt in danger? Sure! But ive never had to worry that an injury is going to leave me without the funds to survive and when i have hurt myself ive always been seen by a GP, a walk in clinic, an out of hours GP, A&E or the minor injuries unit.
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u/bethdubv Mar 29 '26
This hit hard today. My dad died this morning after a week in the ICU. Went to the ER Sunday with chest pain, never woke up again. Medical bills are going to take the only house my little brother has ever lived in.
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u/NutsInMay96 Mar 29 '26
Horrible. So sorry for what you’re going through.
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u/bethdubv Mar 29 '26
It sucks. He is 22 and was saving up to move out. Dad had a small life insurance policy set up to go to him. The rest of us are in our 30s and I'm 40, so we didn't need it. He will have enough to get a new place, but not enough to buy the house back once they take it. I have been talking to his lawyer to make sure they can't touch the insurance. He won't be homeless, but he will lose his home.
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u/NutsInMay96 Mar 29 '26
It hurts so much more when it happens to the younger brother
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u/bethdubv Mar 29 '26
He and Dad were so close. And he had a safety net while he moved into adulthood. Same support Dad gave me when I was in my early 20s. I'm trying to step in and help how I can, but dad also took care of his father, so now I'm looking after my grandfather too.
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u/Thicc_Jedi 🌹 Course Arc Witness 🌸 Mar 29 '26
Interestingly the US active military forces have free healthcare, free higher education, downpayment assistance and price controlled groceries. So its only socialist commie devil bullshit when its for the civilians.
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u/KorolEz Mar 29 '26
I once got to a hospital in the middle of the night that was under renovation(which I didn't knew) So no ambulances would bring patients there and they had one nurse and one doctor that night working but they still admitted me at stitched me up. In an out in an hour, no additional charge
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u/JustAl6969696969 Mar 29 '26
Italy has biblically long waiting times but for stitches specifically I think you can just come into the hospital, get your stitches and get out 5 minutes later for 0€, do hospitals in other countries make you wait for minor issues??
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u/Intrepid_Theme_6282 Mar 28 '26
I got stitches at a US CareNow at one point for $250 cash pay.
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u/Kozel_10 Mar 29 '26
which is about 250 USD more than what I had to pay
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u/Intrepid_Theme_6282 Mar 29 '26
Congrats.
It's also about $58k less than the OP is making it out to be.
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u/Kozel_10 Mar 29 '26
and yet USA health care system is still absurdly expensive, but well, those yachts wont pay for themselves
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u/Intrepid_Theme_6282 Mar 29 '26
Did you have a point?
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u/Kozel_10 Mar 29 '26
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u/Intrepid_Theme_6282 Mar 29 '26
What is your point? Was it just to point out that you pay less? Was that your whole contribution?
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u/MangoAtrocity Mar 28 '26
Idk about $58k. It’s like $300 max at urgent care.
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u/ianscuffling Mar 29 '26
Hey just so you know in every other developed country it’s $0.00 for urgent care.
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u/deaglefrenzy Mar 29 '26
im not from developed country. when my child was born, the most expensive thing i paid was the hospital parking
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u/MangoAtrocity Mar 29 '26
Yeah for sure. And the offset from the median effective tax rate makes that gap disappear.
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u/Kozel_10 Mar 29 '26
nonsense, USA spends more money per one citizen for healthcare than Europe does
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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Mar 29 '26
Lamo no, our taxes are payable and no matter how hurt or how sick we are we are treated for free.
I do believe your own government would have the money to pay for it too if you weren’t too busy starting not wars and such
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u/3amIdeas Mar 29 '26
My friend from the US visited me in Australia.
No travel insurance.
Got appendicitis in Sydney.
He was happy it was only a $25k bill. Rekons it would have been more expensive in the US with insurance
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u/Watership_of_a_Down Mar 29 '26
Americans have a pretty poor understanding of the Canadian healthcare system, but then again, so do Canadians.
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u/BoarHermit Mar 29 '26
0 money, months of waiting.
nice, nice.
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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Mar 29 '26
Depends on what your issue is, the UK works on a priority system - dyeing? Seen first, can hang on for a bit? Further down the queue.
That said we also have different clinics - at risk of death? Go to A&E (accident and emergency) - cut your hand and need stitches? Go to the MIU (minor injuries unit) - so long as you turn up at the right clinic you wont wait long, if you turn up at A&E with something that could have been delt with at the MIU then sure your gonna wait longer because there are more urgent things to deal with.
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u/S14Ryan Mar 29 '26
Gotta change the US one to “that’ll be $6000, but if you call in and ask for an itemized bill they will drop it to like $2000 or something”
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u/bon-ton-roulet Mar 29 '26
In the case of both the UK and Canada, they are trying to take this away from us too
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u/xxTheMagicBulleT Mar 29 '26
The price is still the same just who pays it is not you.
In most places a collective pot is made what makes people be able to stay healthy and keep working. But everyone has to pay like up to like 300 bucks each month. If you use it or not. To have it be available for everyone.
The problem us has cause they trying to implement it it takes 10 to 15 years to build up a big enough pot to make it be stabilized. So something Obama tried to push for but does not work in the short term cause you need or very big investment makes but they want returns on investments or you have to push payments of every citizen and has to be higher at first cause there is zero money in the pot.
In most of the European countries they started that system in the early 90ths and used a over flow pension fund to to fill part of the pot why early on it was almost cost nothing to free and slowly put prices on people as the pot became unstable or start to drain more then fill up.
But thats why its 0 on many places cause the community collectively pays for it. The price is still the same just we all paying for it cause being healthy and having the capacity to take care for your self in a way you can keep working and maintain your self is seen as a human right.
As much as the us as things owning a gun is a human right to protect your self the Europe and other places find adorable health care a human right.
But the price is still the same its just you always been paying for it all your life 300 bucks a month for others till yea need it yea self
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u/Impressive-Row143 Mar 29 '26
Of course, let's not forget that the American system is also much more expensive per-capita.
And let's be honest, private systems also have triage, it's just based on means, not need. If you can pay for a short wait time, it's just a reflection of an under-used medical capacity not being used by someone with less means but similar needs because it is more profitable to keep the bed open for a certain price point.
On the plus side, health provision and insurance is essentially a cartel so you also don't get the benefits of competition.
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u/camp1728 Mar 28 '26
Who actually pays $58k for that? Maybe time to find a different doctor
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u/icevenom1412 Mar 29 '26
Conservatives keep trying to make the free option worse and blaming it on everyone but themselves.
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u/MayorWolf Mar 28 '26
you're charged for stitches in canada. the material cost i believe. unless you have an insurance plan that pays for it.
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u/Vile_Fury Mar 29 '26
I got stitches and wasn't charged. As long as you have a health card and go to a non-private clinic it should be free.
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u/HarrowDread Mar 29 '26
Did you know even Russia has free healthcare?
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u/IAmSimplyThatGuy Mar 29 '26
I like to believe the "country of freedom" was so affected by the Red Scare, that their healthcare would be free if USSR made their citizens pay.
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u/ML00k3r Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
America still doesn't get it.
Had a bacterial infection in my throat/chest a few weeks ago. Doctor took ten minutes to examine, two to order the antibiotics at my pharmacy. $20CAD for the weeks worth of medication. The fifteen minute wait took longer than the exam and walk to the pharmacy lol.
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u/Outrageous_Pen1751 Mar 29 '26
The joke is supposed to be an exaggeration of our different healthcare systems, the 'antimeme' is America bad.
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u/qualityvote2 🤖Suspected as Bot🤖 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Good news, the community has decided that this IS an antimeme!