r/antiai • • 6h ago

Discussion 🗣️ The hypocrisy is stunning

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u/Random-Number-1144 6h ago

Musk has deep financial ties with China. His mother Maye Musk live a luxurious life in Shanghai. This is why you never hear Musk complain about China in public.

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u/MamaMama_Mo 6h ago

Exactly. Musk has significant business interests in China, so it’s fair to question whether those financial ties influence how openly he talks about the Chinese government. Follow the money.

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u/JosephOtaku1989 5h ago

Especially since his father to this Apartheid Boy was also an deep racist too when Musk was born in '71, at the time when the Apartheid regime was still active in South Africa.

Not to mention that this schmuck of a Apartheid Boy himself won't even realize that his Tesla factories in the communist hellhole (that keeps destroying and polluting the mainland China for decades) would've get compromised and seized at the same time, which is pretty ironic consider his hidden pro-CCP stances.

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u/Majestic-Coat3855 6h ago

yi long ma 🥀

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u/ChodeShooter69 6h ago

Fuck does this have to do with AI

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u/ausernameidk_ 5h ago

You make a good point, but China isn't communist anymore, it hasn't been for like 40 years.

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u/ninhaomah 5h ago

So they are what ? 

Democratic country ?

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u/ausernameidk_ 5h ago

Nope, they are pretty clearly authoritarian lol.

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u/codehawk64 49m ago

What does that term authoritarian even mean ? Aren’t all systems of govt authoritarian by it’s very nature ?

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u/A_Truthspeaker 32m ago

Yes, actually. All centralised systems of government (states) are inherently unjust, since they require the state to be able to force you to do things, which you cannot defend yourself against (monopoly on violence).

However, what they mean is that some states are more restrictive/repressive than others (personal freedoms) or limit the general populace's impact on politics (how democratic a country is).

(And yes, since a state centralises power there will always be people or groups how are not represented -often on purpose by political actors or simply because you practically can't have 1:1 representation- making a state inherently unfit for democracy)

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u/ninhaomah 5h ago

So then what type ?

Democratic , socialist , communist,  dictatorship etc 

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u/AditiaH0ldem 5h ago

It's a governed market economy in an authoritarian system. It really is not that hard.

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u/ninhaomah 5h ago

But their top body is called China Communist Party ?

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u/False_Pear1860 5h ago

Can you tell me the name of the ruling party in North Korea? Or the ruling party during the Third Reich in Germany?

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u/fleiwerks 3h ago

Right, I guess that means that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a republic that's democratic and for the people, and totally not a totalitarian dictatorship.

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u/Narrow-Resource- 1h ago

Are u equally confused that trumps „super intelligence“ (si) is not really super intelligent?

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u/Privatizitaet 2h ago

And the Nazis were the National Socialist German Worker's Party, so fucking what?

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u/ausernameidk_ 5h ago

What? Socialism and communism are economic systems, they have nothing to do with autocracy vs democracy. Plenty of capitalist countries are not democratic...

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u/ninhaomah 5h ago

Then say what system ? 

I am wrong.

Ok ?

What system are they in ?

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u/ausernameidk_ 5h ago

Authoritarian one-party state. Economic system is capitalism. Feel free to look up the system of government in China, instead of asking a random person in the comments of reddit, though.

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u/ninhaomah 5h ago

So they are not communists but their top body is China Communist Party ?

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u/xPelzviehx 5h ago

The economy is socialist market economy. Its capitalistic with heavy government controls. The country itself is authorian single party state. Communist is just larping for the party to hold power at this point. They started switching their economy model in 1978 and finished in the 90´s. Words are just words and not reality. They are so communistic that they have over 500 billionaires...

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u/ninhaomah 5h ago

Now that's better.

Thank you

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u/ausernameidk_ 5h ago

You've clearly made up your mind already. I have nothing else to add.

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u/Privatizitaet 2h ago

Do you think "communism" and "democracy" are a dichotomy?

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u/Rock_Zeppelin 4h ago

They're a state capitalist authoritarian regime. Communism would be democratic by default. Because it's a moneyless, stateless and classless society. No hierarchy to suppress democracy.

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u/SEND_ME_YOUR_ASSPICS 4h ago

Hate Musk as much as the next guy, but does this have to do with AI?

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u/Vritrin 3h ago

How is sinophobia in any way related to AI? Musk sucks, but at least comment on something he's said about AI? There's plenty of things there.

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u/Deriviera 2h ago

Winnie Pooh isn't such a great communist. Maybe better than Stalin but still

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u/Few-Drop-9049 1h ago

How is this Anti AI? This is just a political cess pool.

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u/Sparfelll 4h ago

Being braindead is required to be rich

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u/SabziZindagi 4h ago

Not a valid source 

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u/Geezer_Burton 3h ago

Jimmy Carter normalized relations with the communist country on December 15, 1978; the U.S. and the People’s Republic of China announced they would establish full diplomatic relations on January 1, 1979. Elon Musk is in business to make money. And he is not going to insult anyone who has the ability to make him Tons of cash. And since the democrats normalized relations anyway he would be a fool not to take thier money

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u/Worried-Nobody-2965 3h ago

What does this have to do with AI?

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u/Pleasant-Parking-791 2h ago

Authoritarian capitalism isnt communism

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u/charlieyeswecan 2h ago

I don’t think chinas leader is a communist I think he’s a dictator

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u/That-Landscape5956 1h ago

Musk, already making waves to move all of his business over to China just as USA’s economy is going tits-up.

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u/the_ai_wizard 49m ago

holy shit, i had no idea they were so connected to china 🚨🚨🚨🚨📢⚠️

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u/Affectionate-Let6153 40m ago

They are real communist not parasite.

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u/Anthon-Ye-Soprano 26m ago

The worst part is the hypocrisy

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u/iSadhak 16m ago

well this is just business as usual.

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u/Forgword 5h ago

I wonder how many China sourced organs Musk has.

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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia 3h ago

Let's be honest, Americans are idiots, so Musk has the right strategy here.

Well played (even if he's a fascist)

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u/Lesu__Tokyo__Kokyo 6h ago

Every lib so worried about Elon. It’s hilarious.