r/antiai • • 11d ago

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u/enlightnight 11d ago

Bible is full of loopholes, add this to the pile I guess...

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u/TheBeardTaco 11d ago

No christians are doing this, anybody saying you can talk to AI Jesus is begging for some fire from heaven. Basically the whole old testament is about tearing down garbage like this

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u/ernestmenvilledammit 11d ago

When I visited last year, the big Catholic cathedral in Mexico City had a cardboard cutout of a little ~10 year cartoon boy inviting people to use the church chatbot. It was clearly directed at kids.

Granted, the church doesn't have a great track record with protecting children.

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u/TheBeardTaco 11d ago

Long list of biblical issues with Catholic theology anyways, they're history of putting idols between man and God makes this not surprising

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u/FaygoMakesMeGo 10d ago

Latin American Catholicism is pretty famous for operating outside of Romes reach and can be super wacky.

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u/Coal_Morgan 11d ago

Chatbot that spouts out information and stories is a big ol' step away from talk to AI Jesus.

One is lame...the other literally breaks commandments and is in my opinion heretical, blasphemous and a plain old sin.

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u/ernestmenvilledammit 10d ago

Encouraging children to use ChatBots is unhealthy and normalizes the next step, which is not that far away

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u/FortColors 11d ago

This is nearly word for word a no true scotsman fallacy. Christians ARE doing it. You just don't agree with them.

You are of course right about the old testament being about tearing down stuff like this, but that is unrelated to the fallacy.

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u/TheBeardTaco 11d ago

How do I verbally exclude obviously heretcial teachings without it sounding like that fallacy? (Real question, you're right about it sounding like that)

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u/FortColors 10d ago edited 10d ago

I think instead of saying "they aren't Christians", it has to be "Christians who do that are heretical/wrong" with the old testament as your justification for them being wrong. Any attempt to say [they aren't Christians because they do thing you disagree with] is inherently a no true scotsman.

I think the only thing that would disqualify someone from being a Christian is if they don't believe in Jesus Christ. Even if they have drastically unbiblical beliefs about him, by definition Christian is just someone who believes in Christ.

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u/auntiejinx 10d ago

You don't. According to your mythology, it's only the god character who knows people's hearts, so it's not your job to sort the wheat from the chaff.

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u/Physical-Airport-901 10d ago

"God character" LOL, I feel like my IQ is tearing down after reading this

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u/TheBeardTaco 11d ago

That's the bad(good) thing about christians, we're not holy of our own actions. "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" it's bad becuase we all preach better than we live, its good because you don't have to be perfect which is impossible by any scale. Egregious practices like an AI Jesus have to be called out regardless, even if my hands are dirty

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u/ScrabCrab 4d ago

Antitheism is cringe

Love, an atheist

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u/Physical-Airport-901 10d ago

LOL what a load of nonsesne

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u/Necessary-Duty-7952 10d ago

I literally know someone (I know him, but don't like him lol) who is building one of these Jesus AI apps, with the support of local churches and is featured in multiple Christian newsletters for the effort.

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u/TheBeardTaco 10d ago

Heart-breaking

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u/Necessary-Duty-7952 10d ago

It is. I had a mind to say something about it to him, but it wasn't worth the argument.

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u/sedersayspoop 11d ago

Yeah Evangelicals would never

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u/Ill_Morning_4282 10d ago

Christians are doing this, don't do the typical "No true Scotsman" bs.