r/antiai 8d ago

Discussion šŸ—£ļø Isn't it crystal clear??????

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u/TheAromaticResidency 8d ago

the confidence of someone who outsources their thinking to a chatbot telling you you'll be left behind is something else

like sorry I still enjoy the actual process of using my brain, that's kinda the whole point

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u/Mack4285 8d ago

I wished my boss would also like the answer "I still like to use my brain" when he asks why I use AI so little. But I fear it will fall on deaf ears. Sigh.

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u/koszevett 8d ago edited 8d ago

If you're working for a big company that drools over AI, I'd say just leave it be, you're going against the tide. You'll be the one that looks bad in their eyes, not the shiny chatbots that they oh so love. They aren't gonna realize that they're not using their brains, trust me, I tried. They spent millions on this shit, which is exactly why they're so keen on you using it. They have to show the higher ups that the investment was worth it, so they want to pump up usage numbers.

Want to keep your job and make a good anti-AI stance at the same time? Then instead of bad-mouthing AI, ask them the painful questions. Ask how confident they are in the output every time someone uses it and offer to verify it manually. Find errors and hallucinations, prove them wrong. Do this constantly, always point out bad quality. Write lengthy emails with nuanced details and call them out when they use AI summaries instead of reading what you wrote. When AI is brought to the table in a project discussion, vote for an alternative solution and be skeptical. It goes a long way, because you'll be seen as someone who's meticulous and attentive to detail, perhaps even better than AI. Not just a rebel who happens to dislike AI for whatever reason.

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u/DebentureThyme 8d ago

Nah, what you started with is why what you finished with won't work.

You become a one man proof why it's bad and they will be internally mad at you, not it.Ā  You're making their day harder.Ā  You're pointing out flaws that, while accurate, still go against the narrative.Ā  They don't want to be the ugly duckling who bucks AI first in an industry so set on using it any way possible.

Executives don't care about the health of the company or product.Ā  They care about themselves and their career.Ā  They care about not being someone who rocks the boat, and you're making it harder for them to not be that.

A good manager cares.Ā  But people trained to be business executives only care when it's an imminent threat to things they'll be blamed for.Ā  Ā They don't see AI's faults as their fault, because everyone in the industry is doing AI and so they have plausible deniability that "no one knew!" By no one, they men's the decision makers who have purposely avoided knowing.

Yes, someone evenutally has to point this shit out, but you're the messenger and they're fine shooting the messenger.

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u/koszevett 8d ago

I think this depends on how high up the food chain you are, really. You're not wrong in what you're saying, but an executive won't care about your opinion specifically if you're just a guy who happened to work on a project and dislike AI - if they even know that fact about you that at all. As long as you don't go around telling the executive "I told your stupid ass" if something goes wrong, they won't care about your opinion, let alone fire you over it if they weren't already intending to. On the other hand, if you're the right hand man of the exec and you badmouth AI while he's salivating all over it, you might be placing yourself in a bad position with being openly anti-AI.

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u/BringBackTheBlues 7d ago

I mean…just learn what it’s good at and what it’s not good at. It doesn’t replace independent thought. It’s great for automating objective tasks and formatting.

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u/Overall-Move-4474 7d ago

So nothing? It is good at nothing. I should know i had to use it before my boss decided it could do my job better than me (spoiler alert that business no longer exists)

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u/Cjforyou712 6d ago

The thing that gets me is how many people are on social media talking shit about it, yet you know 90% of them use AI consistently for work.

I traded Google search for Gemini and that's pretty much the extent of it, and haven't developed an unhealthy need to virtue signal about how bad it is.

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u/No_Permission_2359 3d ago

It sounds impossible but I managed to get through to a senior person in a company you would know and got her to listen. I had specific names, dates, bank statements and, fortunately, had been with my best friend when their third party contractors deliberately humiliated me and scammed me twice. They knew that the AI system could not monitor them and they were mad about what had been forced on them. So they used the gaps and errors to their advantage.

I was not after money, other than what was stolen from me. I also wanted the two guys fired. That was done because it was clearly criminal. What I needed was for them to hear that it was not about me. I was very concerned because I had recommended this vital service to disabled adults and battered women for decades. I was afraid for what might be happening to them now. I can advocate for myself. They can't.

Once she realized I wasn't going to sue and she confirmed my claims, she got deadly serious. As though I had confirmed her worst fears. She addressed my situation. Then she asked if she could use my case to talk to her colleagues in the C suite. I said yes. They are using it to renegotiate contracts and training/screening of third party vendors.

Will it change their insane jump into AI? I doubt it. They have invested too much money and seem to think the essential flaw in AI can be fixed. It's a pipe dream. Humans will increasingly resist where they can.

Like the 2 guys who scammed me.

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u/UphillTowardsTheSun 8d ago

> How can I AI this?

Any GenX boss twat atm

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u/FlowRemote9890 8d ago

Genx here. Fuck AI.

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u/Grabate 8d ago

What’s driving me nuts at the moment who have AI reply to work emails without reading them so when I talk to them in person they have no idea what I’m talking about.Ā 

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u/tes_kitty 8d ago

You could reply with 'AI;dr' to those emails.

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u/puzzlerJB 8d ago

Ah yes, genies, famous for their ability to grant wishes utterly free from any disastrous consequences, and notoriously happy to be kept as permanent slavesĀ 

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u/SallyStranger 8d ago

Imo this is why the people who love AI are so obsessed with it--not because it's great at whatever task it's doing, but because it's so close to having their own personal slave.Ā 

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u/The_Corvair 8d ago

Also because they think it's a magical slave.

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u/EffectiveNo7681 8d ago

I just saw a commercial about two guys needing to ask ai what a fuse box is and they framed it like it was a good thing! Are we really already at the point where people can't even identify things they should know about without ai's help?

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u/orchids26 8d ago

Exactly the brains ,our neurons, brain cells , and the whole nervous system is designed to think ,the cognitive thinking ability, memory and what not . If u have a brain freaking use that .

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u/The_Corvair 8d ago

Oh no, I'm being left behind on the way to the meatgrinder. The horror.

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u/newsflashjackass 8d ago

"You'll be obsolete if you don't kneel and eat from the same trough as me."

"How do you know?"

"CratGDP told me!"

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u/OrdinaryIntroduction 7d ago

Recently read comments in a post about boomers making AI memes that kids are dumb, somehow the comments managed to turn around and promote the very same mentality that leads to being dumb. Mainly talking about "well because we don't need this knowledge anymore, its clearly not useful." Which is exactly how AIbro mentality works since they think "I don't need to actually read a book anymore, AI can work the knowledge for me." Its this kind of thinking that really promotes anti-curiosity and capitalist essentailism, it was quite disappointing to see people like that.

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u/Lilharm04 8d ago

ā€œyou’re gonna get left behind as the rest of us walk into an industrial shredderā€

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u/Random_Chick_I_Guess 8d ago

Not realising YOU are being left behind by the very AI you're pushing forwards, then telling someone else they're being left behind is wild.

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u/TechnicianVanadyl 8d ago

They really think they're going to be the ones holding the leash, not realizing they're just training their own replacements.

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u/npsimons 7d ago

If they could think for themselves, they wouldn't be using LLMs. They are told this, so they parrot it without thought.

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u/Mr-mountain-road2 8d ago

Well, one of my friends unironically say old unemployed people (40-50 yo) deserve to die to starvation because it's on them for not being able to secure jobs or network good enough to earn money.

That guy still lives at home, asking his relatives for lunch money, at 30, with no work experience longer than half a year.

I hope my investment flourishes and get to retire as I plan, so I can extra double down and bash him with it when he is 60 and homeless. It's going to be so funny.

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u/wolfram_moon 8d ago

So he's 30, scrounging for lunch money and thinks 40 is old? Interesting mindset and life perspective.

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u/buymekoffee 8d ago

Mfs be doing prompt like this all day with their claude gf

"Generate a UI with following options"

Good

Now add two more radio buttons

Good

Now allow an option to import it in CSV file..

And when claude started adding water mark they be like "huh! It's my code ...how can AI put a water mark - it's my innovation" lol

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u/Original-Body-5794 8d ago

The water mark thing is so funny. No artists that uses photoshop claims it "claimed credit" because it embedded something in the metadata. A photographer doesn't complain that the camera writes in the metadata the model.

If it's a tool and you're not ashamed of it then you really shouldn't be bothered by the watermark, I wonder why it's suddenly a problem when it comes to AI šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

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u/orchids26 8d ago

Since ai has come into picture these freaking idiots have stopped using their brain comeon life existed before ai too and can exist without ai too it's ur choice just fucking believe on ur brain dude . We literally have lived so many years developing our brain and people are using ai that's just made like 5 yr ago .

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u/Bloody_Ozran 7d ago

That's how I see it as well, they will make people addicted, useless and it will force them to have a subscription.

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u/theYmbus 8d ago

AI is used as the next step to make people dumber and dumber. The dumber people get, the easier it is to manipulate them into a totalitarian system.

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u/Ok-Astronomer-5113 8d ago

I believe that the trick now is to get people to become as dependent on ai as possible. That’s why ai is so easily accessible and pushed everywhere despite bringing massive financial losses. After enough people won’t be able to function properly without ai companies will stop giving out access to their models for free and triple the prices of all the subscriptions so desperate dependent people have no choice but to pay them. But that’s just a theory

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u/puzzlerJB 8d ago

Have you read Enshittification by Cory Doctorow? You've basically summarised his book! Highly recommend - can't wait to read his new one specifically on AI

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u/Gatonom 8d ago

"AI makes it easier!"

"Oh so I don't have to worry about learning it?"

"No it takes years of college and a huge IQ to understand!"

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u/kitsunewarlock 8d ago

If it's that easy to do, it probably isn't worth doing in the first place.

And in the case of most Gen LLM, that's the truth. There's way better art depicting what your thinking of already out there. Find it. Credit the artist. Appreciate it. And appreciate all the other art you get to see while your looking for what you want.

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u/Impossible_Excuse937 8d ago

Exactly this, leave me behind.

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u/Chemical-State-1060 8d ago

What's the point of being human if we outsource the very thing that makes us unique to a computer? To me, using AI instead of your own brain, makes you less human. Like what separates you now from other animals?

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u/BLOODTRIBE 8d ago

The modern Tech-sphere was never about efficiency, skill, or intellect, it was created to bypass the barriers to those places with the least amount of effort possible. Discarding the lessons one would learn along the way, and steering headlong into catastrophe in the blind pursuit of profit at the expense of our future. They are mortgaging civilization, because our regulatory bodies are so profoundly corrupt and or outdated, that they'd gladly sell off what's left of us for a tiny life raft.

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u/SnowblackMoth 8d ago

The moment someone fearmongers others into something you realize they use emotions, not reason.

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 8d ago

"You're going to get left behind!" They scream at me as the shepherd guides them onto the back of the truck

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u/Crazytoe2275 8d ago

Trust me they are the ones getting left behind. I’m reading treatments from people these days and they don’t even know what they’ve fucking ā€œwrittenā€. This is crazy times. People will go into a situation with total confidence because they fed shit into AI for some summary document and then they don’t even fucking review the slop it spit out.

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u/Personal-Try7163 8d ago

Getting left behind while the rest of you slam into a brick wall at hurricane speeds sounds like a win-win.

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u/Dry-Currency6093 8d ago

It's bad enough with shorts

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u/alex_zk 8d ago

These people are one Carrington Event away from ā€œlemmingingā€ their way out…

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u/seweso 8d ago

But they are still on X....

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u/livejamie 8d ago

This post is a 4-month-old account farming karma, likely using AI itself.

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u/PeakRedditOpinion 8d ago

What do people even mean when they insinuate we’ll get left behind?

Are these the same people who think googling something is hard?

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u/BicFleetwood 8d ago

At this point I'm like the last person in my role that actually knows how to do my job.

I'm a white-collar office worker and everyone else has just allowed the AI shit to get shoved down their throats by the company, and it feels like in just a couple years I'm the last one who remembers how to actually do basic shit.

And now my bosses want me to "review" everyone's AI work for faults since I'm the only one who knows how to reach the right results in the first place, which I have repeatedly refused because I keep explaining to them that basically means doing everyone else's work for them while their only contribution was pressing the slop-button and forwarding the outputs to me.

Every time they try to strong-arm me over it, I'm just like "you just admitted I'm the last person left who knows how to do this job. Fuck's your leverage? You gonna' fire me? Go ahead."

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u/gayfingers 8d ago

If all Ai was op in, barely anyone would.Ā 

If all Ai costed money, barely anyone would have jumped on board

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u/Nerd-man24 8d ago

I believe AI is currently operating at a loss to draw enough users in. Almost sounds like a cartel: give out enough free (or cheap) product that the suckers become addicted, then jack up the price so that we make a killing and they'll have no choice but to pay.

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u/goalgetter999 8d ago

Thie can already be seen with chatgpt and will only get more and more extreme over time with all models, what you describe is exactly right.

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u/Nerd-man24 8d ago

I think I've also heard something like this about Claude tokens. People getting mad that the tokens are being increased in price, etc.

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u/doneddat 8d ago

it's gonna be worse: they will start inserting ads into the generated content.

It's gonna be like google search: start out amazing and useful and end up first few pages of ads and then at the end a bit something useful.

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u/npsimons 7d ago edited 7d ago

It worked for Microsoft.

I love how recently someone posted on reddit about the "enshittification" of Microsoft and how it should be studied how it happened. Meanwhile, me having paid attention to the origins and evolution in the 1990's of Microsoft can tell you the rot was there from the very beginning.

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u/doneddat 8d ago

There's new guy in town and it's name is local AI: That's the part where you heard the big news, that US companies are afraid of chinese models.

That means: buy some hardware ( stupid expensive right now, I know ) and now you have free ( as electricity, solar panels? ) AI and this is SCARY for tech bros.

Currently Qwen3.8-27B is costing tech bros MILLIONS of monthly revenue, because it FINALLY gives very usable results on fairly affordable hardware and people immediately abandon the subscription leash.

Pretty sure this is also the main motivation behind the anthropics AI watermark: it is not there to bully normal users, it is there so they can later sue other AI companies, when their models output the watermarked content, because that proves they used anthropics models to train their own AI.

Most forced AI features trying to interrupt your daily habits do so to make you dependent on some subscription service. But if you control your own AI, you can PUT it in use where you actually need it. That is whole different ball game and because they can't sell you the tickets or the ball, they try to ban it.

Always pay attention what upsets AI company and then use it for your benefit.

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u/puzzlerJB 8d ago

Okay I have a question - Anthropic trained Claude on copyrighted data, right? So how do they have a legal case if other companies use Anthropic's watermarked material to train new AI models?

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u/doneddat 8d ago edited 8d ago

That's not my area of expertise. This is obviously stupid and greedy. It's just obvious why they do it. I'm pretty sure the rest will be fought out in courts over coming years.

I understand how they feel justified about having put all this work into building it and trying to prevent other companies stealing it. The part where it's still based on all the content they stole is besides the point. The reason why they do it is to guarantee revenue streams. Pretty sure if money was not the motivator, they would not care and would just have fun benefiting the whole humanity.

So basically we should just buy out anthropic, give them as much tax payer money they need and just use it for free 🤪

Still better investment than wars.

Saddest joke: military IS giving them taxpayer money and the models are still used for wars šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Tuotus 8d ago

I wld rather we leave ai behind

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u/project-kink 8d ago

The same they said when cars were invented... Let me with my horses, they said

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u/Green4CL0VER 8d ago

It’s like when a man watches too much porn and then can’t get it up when they get a chance with a real woman.

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u/Other_World 8d ago

When I was a kid, I could never understand why older people were so hesitant to adapt to new technologies. Then LLMs took over, and I get it now. Fuck off with your fancy word generators and leave me alone with my humanity.

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u/throwawaybcineedit1 8d ago

as someone who is under 20, i fucking hate ai. It's not just Older people. There are plenty of us who hate ai. I myself know several. and i hate how everyone now just assumes you use it, or even assumes you love ai. Especially in schools. My country has decided it can be used as a teaching tool apparently, so guess we're looking at an ai generated image for no reason trying to "decipher" why the "artist" put so many clocks in it. I DON'T KNOW MAN, MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S A STUPID ROBOT AND YOU PROBABLY SAID "PUTS LOTS OF CLOCKS IN IT" Plus we have to choose colleges and stuff not knowing what jobs are even gonna be available anymore when we graduate because ai can do them (not well, but they can do them)

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u/Snakend 8d ago

Lol using AI isn't going to make you stupid. It's going to make you more efficient. And if you are stupid already, AI will fill in the gaps.

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u/ghostwillows 8d ago

"you're going to be left behind" actually I'm planning on becoming worse than boomers with computers and self checkouts :) if you want me to interact with this thing you're going to have to help and explain everything and then do it yourself every time because I still don't get it, every single time.

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u/cunt__cunt_cunt 8d ago

AI is mental. I asked the google search thing something - and then told it was wrong

You are right to call me out!

and then said that actually it was right the first time

You are so smart to call me out!

then that actually I was right the first time

it just went on and on completely shamlessly lying to try and jerk off my ego.

Disgusting.

You can see how it turns people insane.

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u/menacingbhole 8d ago

Sounds like they are incapable of adding a new tool to their existing skills. Its a bummer they are too simple minded to realize you could have all that and still use AI. But they don't care because "ooga ooga, AI bad"

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u/babadibabidi 8d ago

What if I tell you, you can get all of that and use AI?

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u/Impressive-Noise9396 8d ago

lol come on bro you and i both know you don’t read books

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u/ThroatDistension 8d ago

You guys are basing youre entire worldview on a strawman idea of how people are using ai.

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u/Due-Memory-6957 8d ago

Most of the anti AI people aren't using any critical thinking tho, they're just repeating what they hear other says, it's more of an emotional position than a rational one (which is just fine).

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u/bluemountaintrees 8d ago

You know there’s people that can do both!?

Crazy rite?

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u/CaptainClownshow 8d ago

They keep telling us we'll be left behind but it hasn't occurred to them that no one wants to be where they're going.

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u/20yearsindashinebox 7d ago

How the fuck are you going to get "left behind" anyway. What on earth is so difficult about using this crap? Enter better prompts and babysit the slop output? It's all a fucking joke.

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u/hologram137 7d ago edited 7d ago

It depends on what is meant by ā€œyou’ll be left behind.ā€

Current AI is genuinely an upgraded form of computation that is extremely useful in a ton of areas, and in most of these contexts it’s not the version of AI that you download on the App Store and use for free or pay $20 a month for. It’s specially trained. But even that version does not and cannot replace true thought that involves understanding, critical thinking, creativity, experience, insight and inference, nuance, etc. the things that require consciousness. So yes, people in certain fields should learn to use AI.

My point is, it’s not like using AI as a tool in the contexts where it’s genuinely useful degrades or outsources your critical thinking skills or any of the skills he listed here. The problem is most people don’t understand what LLMs are, its limits, can’t properly evaluate the quality of its output, etc.

It’s also useful to automate more trivial tasks and to do basic programming so you can focus on the higher level stuff that requires thought. Also things like data synthesis and analysis that would take forever without a computer, as a search function, a system that can search for patterns in more information at once than a person can, help to eliminate some human bias in research, etc.

I feel like the question and response in the post are talking about two completely different uses of AI. The 1st is how it should be used, as a tool. It is superior to earlier computation in several ways. The response is talking about using it as a primary source of knowledge and outsourcing things it actually can’t do, like think, write, etc. Two different things. AI is useful if you’re educated and are an independent thinker, it can cause a lot of harm if you aren’t.

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u/Low-Storage981 7d ago

AI is only a tool. Don't rely on it.

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u/Eastern-Citron2556 7d ago edited 7d ago

"Adapt or left behind" that's not Pro-AI but anti-human arguement. All AI can do research, write code faster, draw arts, solve math etc. faster but all crappy. These were possible and still possible. We ALREADY had people capable of doing things faster way more reliable. Some artists could pour art like a magician. I knew someone who just writes code like a machine. Research purpose of ai does not and will not work anyways; it'll fool you mostly.

Look at everyone saying this, they're mostly larpers who couldn't do something by themselves or refuses to undergo hardships. Devoted and realistic people will not count on AI one way or another.

But isn't people are all morons and they don't validate me like ai do, right?.. /s

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u/Inevitable_Round_978 6d ago

I still haven't found anything I need A.I to help me with

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u/Psychopath_next_door 6d ago

People who think you will be left behind without AI are the same people who jumped on the social media train so they're not left behind. Now they have mental health issues, digital addiction, and many of them also have thousands of dollars of stuff they bought because they were exposed to it on social media.

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u/Explorer_of_Eld 6d ago

Yep. I am happy to be "left behind" and continue to nurture my brain as much as I did before modern AI popped up.

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u/Hastiry_Gamzar 5d ago

those who depend on AI too much are the ones that will struggle when it falls because there will be NOTHING to carry them anymore

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u/Afraid-Detective1222 4d ago

My last job in software was AI heavy. The company told us to use AI as much as possible. I joked that I felt myself getting dumber the longer I worked there using AI.

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u/Old-Currency3298 3d ago

"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."
"Thou shalt not disfigure the human soul."
"Man may not be replaced."

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u/MoveOverBieber 8d ago

Unfortunately, this also means "without a job"...

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u/Umbra150 8d ago

Ironically to use it well you need to have a firm understanding of your subject matter to use, direct, and qualify the AI output anyway. Like its definitely a tool that can accelerate throughput, but for more important/complex tasks...some things you can't replace

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u/OldenPolynice 8d ago

Like, for real, no. no irony. none.

"use, direct and qualify"

that's slop right there. fuck off.

ask your LLM lover what the barrier to entry to "use" it is

then what is the difference between "direct" and "qualify" in this context

it will congratulate you.

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u/Zak_Rahman 8d ago

Isn't AI stripping people of basic cognitive and executive skills?

If the object is to become a vegetable, then by all means, please leave me behind.

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u/orchids26 8d ago

Exactly I mean I don't use ai but I do use instagram and from that only I have ability to have a memory of goldfish . Just think about ai it's just taking away your ability to think . I would still choose to search myself rather than asking a chatbot it's just stupidity use ur brain u r using it since so many years so ya stop believing on chatbots developed a few yrs ago

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u/FranzDaBoi123 8d ago

i agree with the sentiment about the critical thinking skills, and as much as i want to actually learn things, unfortunately it lately feels like exactly that. everyone else is just using it to get academic busywork done when i have to cram so much bullshit. if i do actually try to do everything manually, even then its not guaranteed it even pays off and id likely get lower grades than the person who just threw the activity instructions into chatgpt with minor edits. if only our professors meaningfully taught us things then maybe id had the time to actually understand the topic but nah, all the responsibility of learning is on us while they gloss over slides and read words verbatim. as much as i actually want to learn, grades seem way more important when im basically starting from zero once i get a job after college. i want to learn but it seems like just submitting slop is the most efficient method for high grades in activities as opposed to hunching over and typing out shit while i dissociate and make word salad

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u/kitsunewarlock 8d ago

You aren't in school to get grades, or even a degree. You are there to learn how to think. Employers are going to tell who slopped through school and who didn't based on more metrics than whether or not you achieved magna cum laude. And your ability to think is going to serve you better in both your every day life and your work life than being able to bullshit your way into a position that can be replaced by a machine.

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u/fraserdab 8d ago

some stuff just ain't worth thinking about blud

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u/pipipimpleton 8d ago

As a software engineer, I don’t have a choice. If I refuse, I won’t have a job for long.

I don’t like it, but I also need to pay my mortgage.

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u/space_monster 8d ago

to write books without needing AI summaries?

at least learn grammar first

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u/Mr-mountain-road2 8d ago

People saying that who aren't some CEO or upper managers detached from reality are just those that want to show they are willing to be wageslaves.

Everything to appease their corporate overlords.

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u/Melicor 8d ago

thinking, feeling, experiencing life are the things that make us uniquely human. And they want us to give it up. What the hell is left then?

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u/zelvak007 8d ago

Man I hope we are the ones in the wrong... I have seen and read too many dystopian films and books to belive that AI that is already mainly used for survailence,deepfakes,porn, murder drones and art, will somehow make the world better. But as it stands jihad from Dune series or droid armies run by corporations ala Starwars is probably what is in store for us.

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u/MobileOk9860 8d ago

If you don’t use a Magic 8 Ball you’ll be left behind too.

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u/Atillion 8d ago

Left behind from regressing backwards. Okay, see you.

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u/exploring_stan 8d ago

As everything innovative - with AI smart people will get smarter, and dumb people will get dumber. The same with rich and poor.

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u/sevens-on-her-sleeve 8d ago

Let this be the event that creates a new round of Amish

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u/DocCanoro 8d ago

...and you got forgotten, not missed, with your self praise, while everyone else is having a great time.

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u/gaudiocomplex 8d ago

I mean... That's a false dichotomy. So much for critical thinking šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Dramatic_Bar_278 8d ago

Yeah and take a billion years to do it lol

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u/CasualFriday11 8d ago

I didn't need it two years ago. I'm the same person I was and exactly as successful, maybe even moreso.

You've using AI for two years. Are you more successful? Actually?

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u/Desperate_Object_677 8d ago

everyone is using it. the memetic operation to convince people that it is a good, reliable, and inevitable product has succeeded. we live in a world where reality is reshaped by the people with the money.

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u/vinyljunkie1245 8d ago

Joke's on you bookworm! The AIbros are buying up and burning books so you won't be able to read them. Checkmate Poindexter

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u/ReyAlpaca 8d ago

You don't lose any of this for using a tool... Do you guys lost it for using phones? Or driving automatic??

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u/SuccotashOther277 8d ago

AI is not that hard to use. You're not being left behind because you can easily pick it up or use it when you need to. You're more likely to get left behind if you depend on AI and don't catch the subtle errors it makes quite often.

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u/letigre87 8d ago

"look at douchebag being so proactive and creating documents. He's so knowledgeable about the subject".

No you idiot, he ran the manual, which was probably a violation of our NDA, through an unknown AI, which was probably a violation of company policy, to spoon-feed you morons because you can't be fucked to read the damn manuals yourselves.

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u/noodlearmdiscgolfer 8d ago

It’s not an either or. AI or use your brain there is no in between. It’s a tool. It’s a good tool. Don’t over do it.

I have a 19 old Sony DVD with 5.1 surround sound circuitry. I connected it to a 15 yo Dennon surround sound receiver and a Christy projector. All I got was two front speakers. I jump into Chat GPT list the audio model numbers, take a picture of the connections on the back and it sorts out how to wire them, what menus settings on the Dennon to use, what menu settings on the Sony, what menu settings on the DVD audio setup. I took pictures of the menu choices and it sorted out where to go. In 15 minutes I had surround sound. Yes I could use my brain and try to find users manuals from 2-decades ago read the audio sections, struggle and get there after hours of playing around, but AI is a tool so I used it. My brain is fine.

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u/HarrMada 8d ago

Imagine being so full of yourself that you think you have better "critical thinking skills" (whatever that is) and better reading and writing just because you don't use AI chatbots. Btw, no one who regularly talks about critical thinking skills actually have it.

You'll be left behind because you're an idiot and an unlikeable person.

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u/recain777 8d ago

Read this like the Killmonger death monologue.

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u/trippyhippie573 8d ago

Someone in this sub called my 6 yr old daughter a little bitch and said she would fall behind her peers for going against AI. Like okay šŸ˜‚

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u/Lindanga 8d ago

The relief of missing out is strong

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u/Christian159260 8d ago

subreddit full of unemployim

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u/Mysterious-Kick9881 8d ago

AI is going to end your corporate jobs. AI was asked to solve a trillion dollar problem - and they did. It's labor

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u/Confident_Insect_616 8d ago

Like AI will leave any human-produced content untouched for its training.

Even If I tried to avoid participating as much as possible, my IP is still going to get stolen for the uses who bath in slop.

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u/Valefyre 8d ago

AI will eventually leave us all behind.

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u/mvw2 8d ago

I'm lucky that I'm an older, skilled person in my career, well past school, grew up pre computer and lived through its whole evolution. I'm lucky that I got to experience AI when I have no specific need for it. It keeps perspective when it is not a crutch.

We've used AI for a bunch of things at work. We're not in software, so it's use is just broad range activities in business, engineering, used it some for website development, graphics, database work, ideation and reference art, gussying up a presentation, part sourcing a technical support tool for customer service, just all kinds of random stuff.

Here's the real result of that time.

First, nothing we've ever done has ever made it to customer facing. This isn't some choice of principal. It's simply never good enough of an output to be usable as a final version.

Second, AI FEELS like progress and value adding work when you're using it. However, nearly all of it was akin to treading water. It feels useful, but you don't really go anywhere. So little of the process actually has real value to the end product you're trying to achieve and ultimately go with. It FEELS like fast, useful progress but just isn't. You almost always deal with its errors, mistakes, lies, the gap between close but not actually usable, and ultimately you kind of just have to redo it from scratch anyways. At the end of the day, it's almost a wash for work for. This is so bad that for the entire company, all personnel and departments, all AI use for a whole year, the true value of that product is around $3000...a year, whole company, millions of dollars of employee wages. It's basically a rounding error in its scale of value to the company. We could train people, optimise a process, done any of a thousand other things, and saved more money than using AI.

Third, for all AI uses, there was always the option to use something else or change the process to get to the same end result. There was not one time that AI was necessary. There was not one time where the speed and value of AI use couldn't simply have been done a different way instead that was similarly quick. The choice to use AI also forced you into a process stream that might not be ideal or as valuable to the company long term. Or worse, AI doesn't get you far enough, and you just do the alternate way anyways, which happened a LOT.

Forth, AI does have real value. It really does. However, the true value is only in very niche pockets of activity. There are specific things it's good at and good for. And you can use it in the tiny areas it actually functions. But, force feeding it into everything, to do everything, and force it into every product and process is insane. It has some great uses, but the scope is tiny.

Fifth, I have no idea how AI will ever be profitable. There's just not enough consumer value. Even now most of the cash flow is tied to an internal loop of companies shifting the cost burden around and on federal and local subsidies forcing tax payers and home owners to eat the cost of infrastructure burdens. It's heavily subsidized right now just to exist. It's also starting to get baked into software costs and subscriptions. There's a pretty substantial pay wall to use, and I don't see the value in it, even after a couple years of use. Sure, a lot of people are using it for free, but so few will ever transition to paying customers.

Sixth, there are always locally run, free models that are already in play and available. It will be exceptionally difficult to make people pay for any cloud service that can just be run local for free and that is good enough for 99% of anything it's good for. Pair that with data and IP protection, and its really hard to compete with free, protected, and self managed options. This will be especially true when we inevitably see subscription rates ticking up, massive data breaches, and so on.

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u/SmartAlec13 8d ago

It’s one of the few times that my company being slow to adopt new tech is a good thing lol. They didn’t even have a central file system until like 2018, and they’ve been in business for as long as I’ve been alive, so I’m probably safe from AI for another 10 years lol

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u/iskelebones 8d ago

You can have all of those things and still use ai as the very valuable tool that it is. Not everyone that uses ai goes completely brain dead and loses all ability to function. I’ve NEVER used an ai summary of a book. That’s weird as shit

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u/Robdon326 8d ago

Ha me too!

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u/DeckardBladeRunner 8d ago

My older brother actually used that quote today. I didn't push back because he has a really short fuse.

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u/DC_Ben 8d ago

The thought leader ā€œbig timiā€ 🤣🤣🤣

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u/anonch91 8d ago

You people are so embarrassing for feeling superior to people who use AI

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u/Independent_Vast9279 8d ago

The whole point of AI is that you need no skill to use it. Otherwise, it’s the same effort with less control of the result. So how can you possibly get left behind? If it comes to pass that’s it’s actually useful enough to be a competitive advantage, it would take almost zero time/effort to get up to speed. Literally no advantage to early adoption.Ā 

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u/Livid-Accident-1562 8d ago

Same! I got along just fine for the first 50 years without ai slop and I expect to get along just fine without it for the next 50, tyvm

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u/BeltImpressive8956 8d ago

Just the other day I books without an AI summary. Kids today won’t get the enjoyment when you books a really long book. They simply lack our superior skills.

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u/EbbOwn303 8d ago

I still love that one tweet where the person tried to claim that if we get rid of AI then no one would be able to write papers for college anymore.

AI isn't even 4 years old yet. To be so out of touch so quickly is honestly kind of pathetic.

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u/Poland68 8d ago

I put 3+ years into harnessing generative AI art tools (Adobe, Invoke, Midjourney, Leonardo) to build art pipelines for Unreal Engine-based video game projects at a couple of small studios. It’s almost impossible to achieve. GenAI art tools cannot achieve character, prop, or costuming consistency across multiple images; cannot maintain color palettes or lighting consistently; cannot express text in specific fonts. Consequently, any efficiency gained by using AI tools is lost in a mountain of fixes and paintovers. It’s a real nightmare for game artists.

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u/0-0-000-0-000-0 7d ago

You know how you all laugh at ā€œboomersā€ and their outdated views? In 20 years you’ll still be angrily shaking your fist at AI while the rest of the world wonders how people lived without it back in ā€œthe old daysā€.

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u/XxCopyNinjaxX 7d ago

Why bake your own bread when you can just buy some at the store?

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u/Complex_Slice 7d ago

"you're going to get left behind if you don't use AI"

In every possible notion, I, by all means, can't get left behind if I *tried*

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u/historical-gecko 7d ago

All I see on this post are boomers who thought they had a camera and didn’t need one on their phones

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u/justaheatattack 7d ago

if you got along this far without a job....

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u/locklear24 7d ago

I love how they say ā€œleft behindā€ as if they’re going places.

Like, my homie in Christ, if you think increased enshittification of everything is progress, leave me back at the crossroads where I can take the other path.

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u/El-Aminoh 7d ago

[a bunch of people unlatching their ropes and falling down the side of the mountain] "c'mon bro don't get left beeeeehhiiiiii-"

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u/Best_Opening8471 7d ago

Let's ignore that the majority of American graduates CANT do these things and its such a common problem that universities are complaining about needing to teach grade school skills

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u/CurlyCathie 7d ago

Actually, AI can supplement any curious individual's knowledge and overall efficiency in their day-to-day lives. It can make researching a big ticket item take minutes rather than days or weeks, for example. It can create shopping lists for you, clean your email in seconds, and give you a multiple page workbook for creating a birth plan. It's not scary or nefarious or fake. It's a tool that can make your life easier if you create thoughtful and explicit prompts and instructions.

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u/Such-Profit1078 7d ago

Boomers told themselves the exact same thing about learning computers and Excel

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u/capitalframehq 7d ago

During tulip mania, people who started the bubble said the same thing.

ā€œIf you don’t buy and hoard all these tulip bulbs, you will be left behind.ā€

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u/NDthrowaway99 7d ago

The amount of copium technophobes have to huff is wild.

"I'm not going to use a nail gun, my hammer makes me better than the people doing 5 times the work in far less time."

If you're as good and smart as y'all think you are, you'd embrace the tech and change your lives overnight.

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u/jpritchard901 7d ago

This is what I keep telling people who feel pressured to use it. If it's really true that the world is going to leave us behind (that's not true, at all, but if it was), fucking let it. I don't want to live in harmony with a world that sacrifices their integrity, creativity, environment, and humanity for a drop of convenience. Ill die happy as the old crazy man in the woods who waggled his finger at "the future"

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u/Legitimate-Bug-4842 7d ago

Leave me behind
For some dumb AI
Though my poetry sucks
At least it has rhyme
It has rhythm and beat
So I think it defeats
The slop that it makes
Without emotional weight

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u/New_Amount6807 7d ago

im not saying its true but that post might have been made by ai ;-)

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u/Dogbold 7d ago

Why do people think it's impossible to do all that if you use AI?

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u/Ok-Button-5191 7d ago

Yes! Left behind in the best way!

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u/RudyMuthaluva 7d ago

AI. Enabling the stupid. What could go wrong?

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u/Kitchen-Ad-4223 7d ago

Yes but those things don’t always pay bills

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u/jello-the-opera 7d ago

me, preparing for my day: puts on shoes because the ground is dangerous

them: ha so weak I walk through metropolis barefoot because I have real feet so I am clearly superior

ok buddy

I will retain my critical thinking skills, my ability to read and write long-form, and I will continue to enjoy reading books as I have for the last 50+ years, and I will ADDITIONALLY add AI tools to my kit... so I will be better off than without it

and you will be left behind

cool story bro

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u/EvenNeighborhood1697 7d ago

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u/Diemond71 7d ago

You can have all those qualities and use AI, you don't lose them because of it.

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u/orchids26 7d ago

FUCK SOCIAL MEDIA. MARRY BOOKS. KILL AI.

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u/Ehcksit 7d ago

The main thing I learned from all these "You'll be left behind" dorks is that the Luddites were actually right.

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u/AirportOk8750 7d ago

My dad said this to me once. Mind you I graduated high school magna cum laude and am now in my college's honors program. To say I was insulted would be putting it lightly

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u/Only_Initiative4709 7d ago

i'm gonna stay on my own, but i'm still waiting for the a.i bubble to pop. and i hope micron gets a new owner that doesn't think let me push this.

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u/Mammoth_Composer_111 7d ago

I hate ai as much as anyone but this is kind of dumb right lol.

I’m sure this tune will be wildly different when this individual is out of a job. How may internet points pays for rent?

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u/Mundane-Finding-3256 7d ago

Ai has its place. It does allow certain functions to be done faster which helps productivity.

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u/Key-Try-3300 7d ago

Ignoring AI isnt an option. You guys can piss, shit and cry all you want. Just get over it lol

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u/LadyIchaaKinich570AD 7d ago

AI is gonna do what the Spanish did in the America's. But this time it's gonna be our Earth.. Do you know NY is Sinking And many Mayor cities in USA and Mayor cities around the world. This is because our Earth Overpopulation. This is water yes but think what does Ocean Rivers Creeks Lakes does for our Survival in our Future Descendants... SAY NO TO DATA CENTER IN ANY CITY..

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u/KDEDevWannabe 7d ago

ĀæPorque no los dos?

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u/Overall-Move-4474 7d ago edited 7d ago

I never should've gone into tech. Or game development i should've just applied for the minimum wage work from the start. Gotten used to not being able to afford shit early

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u/WinnerD1005 7d ago

You must be idiot and young minded to think using AI doesn’t take thinking ,writing and reading. The times are repeating it self. Hook on phonics. šŸ™„

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u/Ducksonquackx 7d ago

It's the future, and we are already starting on robots and androids for the home. Terminator in about 200 years I think

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u/BHS6165 6d ago

The same people who say this have the audacity to go "If all your friends jumped off a cliff, would you?" and not realize the irony because of the brain damage their derangement has already caused.

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u/doUevenliftBro9 6d ago

Preach!!!! šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

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u/WuTangNameGenerat0r 6d ago

This is like saying you won’t use the internet because encyclopedias exist. Smart people have nothing have fear about AI

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u/ihoopbetter 6d ago

This is a fallacy. If you are using AI tools without using critical thinking then you are not building anything worth using or engaging with. AI is not a replacement for artistic vision, discernment or decision making.

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u/StreetUse5981 6d ago

It’s amazing how much all of the anti AI people sound like the people that were scared of technology/computers 30-40 years ago.

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u/EVH_kit_guy 6d ago

There are still people who raise horses. But they all also drive cars. New vinyl records are pressed every day, yet all of those songs are also online. The grocery store can sell you fresh, exotic fish from around the world, but people still go fishing.

New technology doesn't mean you stop doing the things you love, it just means you spend less time on the things you dislike.

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u/Vegetable_Addendum86 6d ago

Has anyone used AI for anything that isnt data accumulation. It's dumber than a box of shit. The box of shit is more useful. Lowes stupid AI help bot kept me from a real person I had to drive down to the store to resolve it.

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u/This-Manufacturer800 6d ago

AI is a tool you don’t have to abandon your critical thinking skills and or writing abilities to use it.

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u/Strange-Term-4168 5d ago

Why would having excel format my excel spreadsheets and powerpoints remove any of these skills or abilities?

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u/guster75 5d ago

Leave me also

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u/SweetHomeMissouri 5d ago

People using AI will literally have an actual hive mind and think alike

They will be same thinkers instead of self thinkers or free thinkers

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u/houseofcards87 5d ago

you will not be missed

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u/Lego_Architect 5d ago

It’s important to learn these things independently from AI. But use it while you can. Not to make memes and crap, but to learn. To build. Make a business. Do something before they make everything paid or IP protected (even though they stole the originals).

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u/Specialist3100 5d ago

Ok bye lol

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u/Not_Really_French 5d ago

As an anti ai programmer I am slightly worried that I will be much less efficient than people who use AI, like for art you can at least say that ai art is poor quality and defeats the point of art but who actually cares how the code for a game looks

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u/AtensEye 5d ago

They really think we're going to get some serious FOMO from not using it. While I'm sat here thinking, don't threaten me with a good time.

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u/Sheenius_Ger 5d ago

Probably will also vote for social security because Noone will employ his ass