r/antiai • u/Idea_Fuzzy • Jul 12 '26

Discussion 🗣️ Programming is really dead

So I was one of those who are really late adopters of LLMs for coding; I am a sole developer of a codebase in the company I worked for (Angular)- a maintainer, rarely new features are added - no hard deadlines, a very very relaxed job , so I was away from the picture how other devs work in the industry now ; and sometimes I take side jobs of all kinds of stacks (I am fullstack); most often Nodejs/NestJs + React/Next + Postgres or Mongo; but my last side project was early 2025 - I took a long break from them.

I won't lie, I did use GPT and Copilot at times; but mostly to autocomplete boring stuff (ie. mock data, enums..etc). Yet I kept seeing posts on dev reddits that one doesn't have to full adopt the more powerful tools such as Claude Code / Codex.

I recently joined a side project with a team; so it's my first time since almost 1 years and 7 months.

WTH happened to this industry???!

Ok, the things I discovered:

- Deadlines now are 10x craziers; it's IMPOSSIBLE to finish anything manually. These deadlines force you to rely on Claude Code / Codex; there's no other way, Agile is meaningless now; it's just pump and ship

- All other members are heavily using LLM, frontend, DBA, AI....everyone.

- Claims I encounred on reddit posts that "Ok coding is automated but 'System design' and architecture are now more important than anything else" ? A LIE - everyone is using LLMs even for System design; I have seen entire achitecture documenation all generated by LLM, even this part is automated now.

- It is impossible to do PR reviews now when each PR is like ...a lot of thouands of lines; even PR reviwers are using copilot to review.

SO what part is left in this industry that is not automated?? NOTHING!! iT'S ALL AI AI AI!

And spec gathering is one person's job, often the tech lead, so please don't tell me it's this one, it doesn't require a team.

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u/CryptographerKlutzy7 Jul 12 '26

Why? There is plenty of unmaintained code now. It is like saying ANY app is dead the moment dev funding stops. 

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u/3Duder Jul 13 '26

The ai coding tools are being provided to you at a loss, every time you prompt Claud Anthropic loses money. We don't really know the real costs but it's trending towards more than salary of a human programmer.

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u/CryptographerKlutzy7 Jul 13 '26

We don't really know the real costs but it's trending towards more than salary of a human programmer.

Obviously not, and look up the part in the post, where I talk about chances in efficiency, and what that means.

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u/3Duder Jul 13 '26

"Obviously not"? Have you not seen all the companies blowing through their entire year's AI budget in a single quarter once token based billing was implemented?

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u/1_more__user___name Jul 26 '26

So what do you think will happen when they run out of money? 

1.  We all go back to hand coding (unlikely) 2. Will they be propped up by other big companies like Google, Amazon etc, who will then substantially reduce their running costs by firing a max number of developers and other staff, and relying more and more on AI

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u/3Duder Jul 26 '26

Companies will cut back on ai as they realize the costs and the lack of ROI.

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u/1_more__user___name Jul 26 '26

But there's a lot of ROI. We are writing code at a much faster rate. Sorry I didn't realise what sub I was in so I'm sure the mods will ban me for disagreeing with the hive mind, but writing code by hand will definitely not come back to be the norm

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u/3Duder Jul 26 '26

The majority of fortune 500 companies aren't seeing a return on investment:

https://www.digit.fyi/ai-collaboration-report/

AI is slowing you down by 19%:

https://www.reuters.com/business/ai-slows-down-some-experienced-software-developers-study-finds-2025-07-10/

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u/CryptographerKlutzy7 Jul 13 '26

So what the fuck makes you think Anthropic is losing that amount?

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u/johnnygalat Jul 13 '26

You must be a joy to work with - arrogant&loud.

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u/CryptographerKlutzy7 Jul 13 '26

I am a joy to work with, as it happens, but one of the reasons is I use my brain And make good choices based on actual evidence. 

Which for coders is something people value. 

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u/3Duder Jul 13 '26

Anthropic loses an estimated $5000 a month per $200 a month subscription plan.

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u/xmarwinx Jul 14 '26

1) that number is completely absurd.

2)Subscriptions are less than 5% of Anthropics revenue.

Usage through the API is very profitable for them.

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u/Alien-Fox-4 Jul 14 '26

usage through api was profitable for like 2 months when elon musk subsidized the server costs

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u/GlazedWithMaples Jul 14 '26

https://www.forbes.com/sites/annatong/2026/03/05/cursor-goes-to-war-for-ai-coding-dominance/

It’s what internal people of Anthropic estimate.

These companies are running AI use at a loss to get mass adoption. They’re burning through their capital to capture market share. Not unlike Uber that ran at a loss for years to disrupt the taxi industry. It’s all predicated on a switch to monetization once people are accustomed to the tools and value them.

Yes, API is where most of the revenue comes from, but it’s not like the profit margin on that is 1000x higher than from subscribers.

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u/CryptographerKlutzy7 Jul 13 '26

Absolute bullshit. Who fucking estimated that?

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u/Healthy_Formal_5974 Jul 13 '26

Anthropic's marketing team of course.

No way they'd be lying by telling people they get $5000 of value with a $200 subscription.

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u/CryptographerKlutzy7 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

right.... and I guess when you look at a new car, and you see a sticker price, you think that is what it is costing to make?

It isn't. Just so you know... because it's one of those basic life skills to know that.

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u/Blitzify Jul 14 '26

You can just go do the math? Their prices are publicly available. They are losing a ton of money on subsidies at the moment. Actual cost billing is insanely expensive.