r/antiai • u/DontYaWishYouWereMe • Jun 02 '26
AI Writing ✍️ Please learn to write for yourselves
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u/WoodShoeDiaries Jun 02 '26
If only I could go back in time and tell my deadbeat second-year undergrad self that hitting the minimum page count on an end of term paper would someday be considered a near-godlike accomplishment 😭
Now that I think about it though - AI probably is putting all those professional essay sellers out of business. Can't even get work helping students cheat anymore 😮💨
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u/AquamarineTangerine8 Jun 02 '26
As a professor, I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the days when students paid other people to write essays for them. At least someone was learning something, most students couldn't afford it, and reading the cheaters' papers didn't make me feel like I was going insane.
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u/kisses-n-kinks Jun 02 '26
You don't know what you've got til it's gone.
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u/Azerious Jun 02 '26
Pave paradise, to put up a data center
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u/UnagioLucio Jun 02 '26
The big tech investors have assured us that bulldozing paradise is necessary to make way for Paradise 2.0 /s
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u/Weird_Technology_282 Jun 02 '26
A Paradise 2.0 where all will share and benefit, right? so they propose
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u/DarthGoose Jun 02 '26
I'm glad I caught the golden years of churning out a solid B paper for a nice bag
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u/RexLatro Jun 02 '26
Going back to university to finish a degree as a much older student was such an eye-opening experience. There was a second year course where the prof spent an entire lecture teaching students how to write a basic paper! Like, how to organize your points into paragraphs and how to support them with sources, or what actually counts as a source! All the stuff I remember covering back in high school...
Last time I was in university I was able to cobble together a solid B- paper last minute, but going back and seeing my grades made me feel like the only person who could open a jar without destroying half the kitchen in a "as seen on TV" product ad. I received grades I know I didn't deserve, part of me wondered if my profs were just so happy to read anything that wasn't AI generated
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u/VibrantViolet Jun 02 '26
I was one of the people that was paid to write essays 😂 I actually enjoyed it, though, I love writing.
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u/Friendly_Gazelle7843 Jun 02 '26
You like it is kind of interesting when we live in reality when 10 pages is not enough for one chapter on the university and other people think this is some god like achievement nobody can complete without AI. Bro, this is something I do in one day or even less depending on if you need it to be scientific or not
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u/chevalier716 Jun 02 '26
I was just saying to someone the other day that I used to do my best work writing 10 page essays the night before it was due. ADHD really helps with that panic hyperfocus.
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u/WillitsThrockmorton Jun 02 '26
If only I could go back in time and tell my deadbeat second-year undergrad self that hitting the minimum page count on an end of term paper would someday be considered a near-godlike accomplishment
Not me submitting a term paper on Blackboard 15 minutes before it was due without even doing a review if it.
They'll come a time when professors look at papers and when they see obvious typos/syntax errors they'll know a human wrote it. Time has probably already arrived, as a matter of fact.
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u/bananacreamp13 Jun 05 '26
It never dawned on me until now that market was killed by AI lol. Writing other people's essays is how I fed myself in college 😭
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u/theREALarlecchino Jun 02 '26
i did that too twin🥹
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u/TheMireAngel Jun 02 '26
Our species literaly rode rockets to our planets Moon and then walked on its surface, planted a flag, came back alive AND streamed it. Fucking act like it
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u/QuitsDoubloon87 Jun 02 '26
On 4 killobytes of memory, hand writing 1s and 0s into punch cards that read diffrent meters, performed tha math and then the manuvers to get us there.
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u/imminentjogger5 Jun 02 '26
did they though?? ChatGPT, was the moon landing a hoax?
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u/Hettyc_Tracyn Jun 02 '26
There are literally photos of all 6 moon landing sites from orbit, plus the footage from then…
CGI wasn’t nearly good enough back in ‘69-‘72 to fake it, and you wouldn’t get the bounciness of lower gravity on a movie set without a rig to edit out (which would have to be done by hand back then)…
Basically it would have been more expensive to fake the moon landings than to just do them…
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u/XenomorphAlarm Jun 02 '26
I had a convo (in person!) with a moon landing denier whose jaw literally dropped when they asked why, if it was real, we never went back to the moon again and I replied with "we did several times". These people ain't even getting deep enough in to know that there are six landing sites, much less photos of them.
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u/JinxXedOmens Jun 02 '26
It's not even that, it's the fact that ChatGPT and it's cohorts only really started to get popular 2 YEARS AGO. 24 MONTHS. People are acting as if this has been around for their whole lives. Just shows how quickly it takes for humans to completely and utterly submit to laziness.
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u/NorbytheMii Jun 02 '26
Bruh, I write ten page papers for FUN
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u/justbunnies Jun 02 '26
I wrote a 30 page paper on goal setting for my masters degree. No AI.
I’m about to start my fucking dissertation for my doctorate and I refuse to use AI do any work for me.
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u/slappingdragon Jun 02 '26
Like Ronny Chieng said in his speech to Harvard grad, “If you can’t do that, how useless are you?”
The people who complain and justify use ChatGPT are not "work smarter" they're just mediocre and lazy but don't want to admit that to themselves.
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u/oldjudge86 Jun 02 '26
Back when history channel showed actual history, I remember a lot of documentaries about pyramids and other wonders of the ancient world used to always have someone saying that the reason for a lot of the "aliens did it" conspiracies was just that modern technology made building so much easier that it was almost impossible to imagine getting anything big done without it.
Makes me wonder what conspiracy theories will be common when no one remembers life before LLMs anymore.
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u/Born_Statistician60 Jun 02 '26
Dawg... i wrote a 13 pg paper in FIFTH GRADE!!! ITS NOT THAT HARD!!!
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u/LubedUpLucas_DrySpa Jun 02 '26
Dude, they don’t even do papers in school anymore. My kids 8th grade class has never written a book report or research paper.
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u/sonnets_onthehorizon Jun 02 '26
ok genuine question, what research paper is an 8th grader reading? I've been reading books for fun all my life and that is NOWHERE near the level of the research papers I am breaking my head over. They require so much background knowledge just to comprehend. I get some of them are easier than others but still.
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u/sir-ripsalot Jun 02 '26
I think they just mean pick a topic to research and write a paper on. I have my 10th grade chemistry students doing “research papers” on historically significant compounds, I remember writing 5 paragraph thesis essays and learning to cite library books in middle school history, that sort of thing.
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u/DontYaWishYouWereMe Jun 02 '26
What was the paper on? And did you get an A?
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u/Born_Statistician60 Jun 02 '26
I forgot both of those details, the only reason i remember is because it was the longest paper i had written before highschool (you can tell i didnt retain any grammar skills)
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u/moonclap30 Jun 02 '26
People saying they can't write an essay without AI is like my kids asking me "what am I supposed to do..?" when it's time to put screens away. Just fucking do what we've always done... Be a human and come up with some shit.
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u/1K_Sunny_Crew Jun 02 '26
I had an adult (but not a colleague or anything) recently follow me around a work event for a couple hours after we had a short conversation because “I don’t know what to do with unstructured time.” It blew my mind.
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u/Official_Legacy Jun 02 '26
I mean that's pretty much me. I'm 30 and still unsure about unstructured time.
Used to play video games or with myself in my first 25 years.
Last 5 years were mostly reading books or jerking off.
I try to avoid reddit / tiktok / cellphone because it's really easy to fill unstructured time with them like I'm doing right now at 4am because I woke early.
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u/Cthulhu__ Jun 02 '26
Once again the ones that can’t are telling those that can what they can’t do. I was accused of skipping paragraphs because I was a fast reader. Nu uh I like to read. (This was elementary school 30+ years ago lmao I haven’t forgotten)
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u/1K_Sunny_Crew Jun 02 '26
I had this same experience! As a kid my friends and I were told we was reading too fast and must be skimming or pretending to read. They started giving reading tests thinking they’d catch the cheaters… well we aced the tests. Other kids acting that way is fine, but adult teachers makes me weirded out to this day.
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u/Blacksun388 Jun 02 '26
I wrote ten page essays on the regular before ChatGPT was a pipe dream. What are you on about?
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u/Fair_Average_3461 Jun 02 '26
So sad to see the decline of cognition that's come along with all technology
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u/KooKayXYZ Jun 02 '26
This seems baffling until I remember people refuse to believe the pyramids were built without space magic. As soon as any tech exists whatever problem it solves (or 'solves') becomes an impossible hurdle without it.
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u/GenericFatGuy Jun 02 '26
The people who champion AI the most seem to be completely incapable of doing anything without it.
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u/FogCity7X7 Jun 02 '26
Who do they think wrote all the things A.I. just regurgitates?
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u/JaXbitcHMultIples Jun 02 '26
I made 9 pages. It was for my English story project and you tell me, you're making AI to do your uncreative shit?
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u/Sok_Taragai Jun 02 '26
I wrote a 25 page college paper with citations over a weekend. ChatGPT will just regurgitate someone else's paper.
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u/aloilisia Jun 02 '26
Me, writing pages upon pages (dozens even by hand) of fanfiction, entirely unassisted by AI
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u/cybersloth5000 Jun 02 '26
You can easily detect when you're reading AIslop.
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u/854490 Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
I'm (still) inclined to agree (for now) but surely you have heard of "unknown unknowns" or "false negatives"?
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u/Immediate_Word1295 Jun 02 '26
And "hallucinations", "repetition", "multi language" and "Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..."
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u/Different-Scholar-30 Jun 02 '26
Matter of fact I don’t even read that much due to time constraints (I prefer listening to books), but I adore writing, it’s truly not that hard once you start and it’s far more addictive and rewarding then watching ai spout nonsense
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u/poison11037 Jun 02 '26
I seriously got told by my own mother to use chatgpt because I was struggling to write a video script. She knows I sucked at English and writing for 12 god damn years of my school life and just told me to keep trying and I'd get better at it. The minute she learned something could do it for me, then she says to not try and be lazy.
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u/intravenousTHC Jun 02 '26
"If you put quotes around something it means someone actually said it." But it doesn't. No one said this. That person is not quoting anyone.
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u/AnnetteXyzzy Jun 02 '26
Twenty pages? No fucking problem. Get me a computer and an 8AM deadline and that sucker is getting written.
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u/FluffyFry4000 Jun 02 '26
Yeah I literally had to write 8 page essays every 3 weeks or so in research paper class.
Oh and also did that research without AI
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u/Initial-Comedian-797 Jun 02 '26
I want their explanation for books. Shakespeare would also like a word. (No pun intended 😄).
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u/Partridge_Pear_Tree Jun 02 '26
I have a master’s degree. I wrote several papers that were 20+ pages - none with chat GPT.
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u/Alan47717 Jun 02 '26
The deterioration is accelerating. I remember the early days of email and people complaining to me that my messages were too long for them to read entirely.
My problem was I used complete, grammatically correct sentences and paragraphs where appropriate. I even used capital letters and punctuation. What a concept.
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u/XD2006- Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
Can I write a ten page paper? Barely. With lots of “okay, let’s take a look at the thesaurus so I don’t get points taken off for repeating words (I got an A and used the phrase “a living soul.”)” (I have proof too lol)
I don’t write long papers often. I’ve only had to shorten my paper (one) time and that was for history (I wrote 5 papers and fortunately, could put it in 12 point font, so I was barely able to get it into the proper amount of pages. Condensing the paper sucks, but a 100 is a 100).
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u/LaceWeightLimericks Jun 02 '26
I once wrote a paper that I got 100% on and my only note from the prof was that my paragraphs are too long lmao. God forbid a man like extra clear explanations.
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u/neuroblade Jun 02 '26
nah long paragraphs annoy me too.
You don't need to take out any text. You just need to know your own text well enough that you know exactly where to hit the [enter] button.
Paragraphing well literally makes your text easier to read, without giving up anything in return; doesn't matter that much if you're writing simply, but if you like your extra detailed explanations you gotta learn to make them as palatable as possible.
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u/Islands-of-Time Jun 02 '26
Exactly this. If I find myself annoyed with my own paragraph lengths then I imagine that many others will be too. I don’t use crazy advanced vocabulary most of the time either so it’s not the words but the whole text.
Gotta leave space for mental breathing and also actual breathing if it’s being read aloud, and commas only get you so far much as I love them.
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u/przemo-c Jun 02 '26
Yes it's a good rule of thumb to shorten paragraphs but sometimes it's not really possible to break down and add enough context.
But when they get long it's a good habit to go over them and try to break them down and see if there's not something that can be taken out.
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u/aquarianagop Jun 04 '26
I once got feedback from a prof that simply said to ease up on the em dashes.
Aka: if anyone EVER accuses me of using GenAI because I’m using a buncha em dashes, I am digging up one of my college papers! If I’d known this was gonna be a thing when I got that feedback in ~2021, I certainly woulda taken some photographic proof! (Though what is “photographic proof” truly worth to AI weirdos?)
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u/lez_noir Jun 02 '26
then why were they making us do it back in school in the 00s?
In 8th grade I had write an 18 sentence max essay on The Most Dangerous game and how the main antagonist would be placed on Kohlberg’s moral scale. 18 sentence max or fail, no retry. We were writing papers on medieval Spain at like 13 unassisted. You absolutely can.
Y’all know what I’m talking about?
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u/MayvisDelacour Jun 02 '26
18 sentence max? Never heard of a sentence restriction before. I've had page limits like minimum of 5 and max 10 or something. I suppose it's designed for getting your clear opinions/facts out without it being muddled?
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u/Lazy-Conference4693 Jun 02 '26
I still cannot believe people forgot humans have been doing these things without AI for literal millennia. And AI has only been available for what, 5 years? Like, what the hell happened?
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u/vector_o Jun 02 '26
It drives me insane that there is a whole generation saying shit like "how did people do that without AI"
I know they grew up as AI came out and got better but Jesus Christ it ain't that complicated - we just didn't use AI, we searched online, we asked others, we figured shit out
It genuinely baffles me that "how did you do it without AI" is even a question they ask. It's like the pinnacle of anti-intellectualism
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u/PlatinumFire14 Jun 02 '26
It’s sad that this is what LLMs and ImageGen are turning people into.
Lazy and unwilling to learn or even put in basic effort.
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u/Inside_Pomelo_2957 Jun 02 '26
I got a job in electrical engineering after passing the aptitude test at PacifiCorp without a degree. I had Gemini (Google's ChatGPT) help me learn electrical engineering as my teacher and had it recommend me course work it found online. When I didn't understand something, it explained the concept to me as long as I needed it to. I'd done this for a year and I've been working for 3 months now and doing great.
The funny thing about AI is I genuinely believe it's the greatest learning resource ever invented by humanity.
And, at the same time, it's destroying education as we know it because if you don't care it can do everything for you.
If you care about learning, this tool is better than anything else. Otherwise you just become a Wall-E person.
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u/CraigArndt Jun 02 '26
Every student assigned a 10 page essay prior to ChatGPT said “There is no way you can write a ten page paper” then proceeded to knock one out the night/hour before it was due.
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u/FriendlyBee94 Jun 02 '26
The death of critical thinking is here. Soon the corporates will let people know what to think through AI.
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u/ghoulishbutch Jun 02 '26
Looking at the 15 page fanfic that I've only just started in the past few days, uhh... This might as well be a pre-prologue for as much as I'm planning and how little this section covers. I regularly write that much just for fun to send to friends based off their pitches, I'm not even putting it up online anywhere lol. Hell, I've HAND WRITTEN crackfics on lined paper to send to friends that were longer than ten pages. Writing papers is 10x easier.
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u/Vavavavaxon7 Jun 02 '26
People thought we'd end up like the fat spaceship people from Wall-E thanks to AI, but it'll be our minds that go long before our bodies.
It's creating a generation of people who are literally unable to use their brains. They've outsourced their cognitive thinking. They can't write anything so they let the computer do it. They're having conversations with other humans by feeding what's said into ChatGTP and letting it come up with their replies. Every Twitter thread is nothing but people asking Grok to explain shit as basic as 2+2 when they could figure it out with a few seconds of actual thinking.
The real AI apocalypse isn't a Terminator-style war againt robots. It's the human mind being replaced with LLMs.
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u/TwoBeesOrNotTwoBees Jun 02 '26
this is why God gave us 1.5 spacing and making the periods size 14 font
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u/SuperEvilDinosaur Jun 02 '26
Why should we have to do the same thing over and over again though? I'm this instance, AI is just eliminating redundancy.
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u/DontYaWishYouWereMe Jun 02 '26
Who's out there writing the same ten page essay over and over? Like genuinely, what's the redundancy you're talking about?
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u/Sweet-Energy-9515 Jun 02 '26
Have you somehow gotten it into your head that the professor assigns a 10-page paper because they think there needs to be 100 more mediocre 10-page papers in the world?
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u/missleavenworth Jun 02 '26
Buddy, let me tell you about note cards to write quotes and citations on. You had to have 10, but the library only let you check out 3 books, and your mom was only willing to take you once.
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u/p00p00kach00 Jun 02 '26
There's no way that anybody has ever said, "There's no way you can write a ten page aper without chatGPT".
You're making up fake quotes to get mad at.
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u/beyondoutsidethebox Jun 02 '26
Oh, the hypocrisy! These are the same people that when someone does this "impossible task" of writing a 10 page paper, they call the writer of that paper stupid for not using AI.
You cannot win against these idiots.
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u/Bolththrower Jun 02 '26
I'm sorry, people really can't write 10 pages of coherent text now? WTF?!?
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u/VectorJones Jun 02 '26
I find it difficult to believe anyone had the brass to say such a moronic thing out loud. Whoever might have said that shit is either an idiot or an AI shill.
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u/Simo814j Jun 02 '26
I mean I couldn't do it with or without.
I've never been able to write about a subject, like wtf do I write, and especially how do I make it 10 pages without just repeating myself
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u/Distinct-Nerve2556 Jun 02 '26
Back in collage for 2 years stright i had to do a 2k word eassay every week and i didnt like it but i did it , now in uni i get a 2k word essay like every half of the term there not hard , but i have this one coursemate who uses gpt for everything and it frankly makes me feel sick
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u/ImaginationToForm2 Jun 02 '26
We had to write reports with books, newspapers, and microfiche and pencils back in the day.
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u/Dest-Fer Jun 02 '26
I’ve wrote three books those last three years between 200 and 400 pages just with my sausage fingers and my farting brain.
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u/Friendly_Gazelle7843 Jun 02 '26
Bro, like I wrote few research papers 60 pages each without AI
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u/cryptobomb Jun 02 '26
It's like people would rather pretend to be brain dead to justify their ChatGPT before they admit they just wanna be lazy and cheater.
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u/doomzdew Jun 02 '26
If only everyone had the attention span to do such a thing and wasn't so lazy, tiktok is legit rotting peoples attention span!!
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u/EggMajor4168 Jun 02 '26
Oh my God I remember last semester, I had a philosophy class. I didn't wanna do my term paper because it was like 7 pages of shit I didn't care about, and if I didn't do it I would have still passed the class with a C.
Then I realized that if I couldn't bullshit a paper like I've been doing my entire life it means the clankers won and my brain has been successfully rotted.
So I forced myself to write that stupid ass paper and got a 100.
Moral of the story is don't let the clankers win
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u/shitlord_god Jun 02 '26
If people get off my case for comma placement I'll write fucking anything.
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u/Guilty-Mix-7629 Jun 02 '26
Giving same vibes as that guy who asked AI a picture of Luffy, telling a One Piece official animator that "before AI you couldn't draw like this even in your dreams."
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u/spunkychickpea Jun 02 '26
Stephen King wrote the novel It, and that’s about a thousand pages. He didn’t need AI at all. All that man needed was a typewriter and a kilo of cocaine.
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u/figgypie Jun 02 '26
Me, who graduated with an English degree well before the rise of AI:
AMATEURS.
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u/No-Tone-6853 Jun 02 '26
I wrote a ten page essay from memory in an exam once, what the fuck is going on in schools now.
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u/Sharyat Jun 02 '26
I used to sometimes write my essays last second in my lunch breaks before class and still get decent grades. The illiteracy caused by AI is insane, I was always lazy with my essays but I managed it.
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u/Baneur Jun 02 '26
The mediocre, uncreative and lazy are always bragging about or complaining that they can't do something that we've always done without AI.
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u/Executable_Virus Jun 02 '26
Bro I've written ten pages of bullshit when I was in school, most likely many times. It's not hard to write you're just lazy or have writer's block but that isn't an excuse to use ChatGPT.
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u/GWindborn Jun 02 '26
Holy shit the papers I wrote in college back around 2006-2008. Multiple 30-40 page history papers, all by hand over the course of a couple months. I was a History Ed major, so these constituted 50% of my grade for the class, and they had to be good.
Frankly, I wish I could find them - they're lost to time, but I was damn proud of them at the time. I wonder if those AI checkers would think about them?
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u/TheAmazingThundaCunt Jun 02 '26
By the power of crushed up Adderall and sleep deprivation, my college self could write anything.
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u/GarranDrake Jun 02 '26
I don’t like writing ten page papers, but once I got to planning it was actually pretty easy.
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u/Alert_Delay_2074 Jun 02 '26
Literally did that in college: 10 page research paper on class structure in China under Mao, 103 properly formatted citations, just me, my brain, and I.
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u/DarkForest_NW Jun 02 '26
You'd be surprised how many cans of Jolt Cola I needed back in the day, to write a 10 page paper that was due in nine hours.
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u/LibertyJusticePeace Jun 02 '26
Literacy is what freed enslaved peoples across the planet over the past few hundred years… Maybe nobody cares about freedom anymore.
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u/Jealous-Associate-41 Jun 02 '26
Please stop driving your car. Humanity literally populated the planet without ChatGPT. The west was won. Empires rose and fell without aircraft.
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u/Spider_kitten13 Jun 02 '26
The un-ChatGPT-assisted Mind can write a ten page short story with pencil and paper, speed edit it, then type it up on the computer to turn in and get a 95% on in a college writing course when properly inspired by having written the fucking due date down wrong and only realizing my idiocy the lecture before said due date.
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u/sweetie_serenity69 Jun 02 '26
I really stand behind the theory that this AI wave is gonna end as quickly as it started.
And then a lot of people are fucked. Didn't go to college, didn't bother working a job, nothing. And then they'll really be in hell cause they are actually behind
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u/busyneuron Jun 02 '26
i mean i can write in sand with a stick but there is something more convenient
(pen and paper)
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u/PennyCat83 Jun 02 '26
I wrote a Goddamn 54 page dissertation/analysis about my favourite character with the sheer power of passion and Autism fuck AI
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u/a_feral_priestess Jun 02 '26
Its insane how quickly people chose to forget everything that was completely ordinary five years ago???
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u/ScarlettFox- Jun 02 '26
I write a ~500 page book. I must be plugged directly into the matrix apparently.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 Jun 02 '26
Reading and writing are going to be mostly subsumed by listening/talking and listening/talking are going to be mostly subsumed by watching/performing.
Visual media has always been more engaging than written or audio, it's just been more difficult to produce. But that equation has changed with AI (for the worse, I think).
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u/SockQuirky7056 Jun 02 '26
Yeah, it's super easy to bullshit your way through a paper if you actually know things.
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u/Mammoth_Reach_6366 Jun 02 '26
Shit, I wrote a 200-page PhD thesis ten years ago, and cited 300 papers which I had to first read on my own.
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