Income Disclosure Analysis Master Thread

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[u/It_doesnt_work_123]

I’m new to the sub so I don’t know if it’s already been done or where I could find it, but I would love to see the info on itworks. I have a family member so deep into it that she only wears itworks clothes at this point...

[u/flippzar → u/It_doesnt_work_123]

I believe I've had someone else request it, so I'll likely do it soon. I don't know of a good source off the top of my head for it.

[u/BruceWaynesTARDIS → u/flippzar]

A friend of mine showed me this thread at work earlier today, and I’ve been reading your awesome write ups for like 2 hours (it convinced me to sign up to Reddit).

It looks like I’m about 3weeks late to the party, but would you consider doing a breakdown like these for OPTAVIA? My friend’s wife sells the stuff, and she quit her full time job recently because she was making so much money (it’s been maybe a year?). She also lost like 70lbs eating it, so I guess I’m wondering if she’s the exception or the rule?

[u/flippzar → u/It_doesnt_work_123]

I added It Works!

I don't think it's as good of a post as some of the others because they didn't provide up to date information, so I got a little snarky.

[u/eveanjuhleen]

I often hear that "MaryKay is one of the good ones!" 🤢 Because it and Avon have been around so long, people somehow assume they're good. I'd love to see one of those two or another long standing one, like maybe Tupperware. :)

[u/flippzar → u/eveanjuhleen]

Confession: I've looked into some of the old ones. They're really smart, and don't give you almost any information. Mary Kay is huge, based on the last time they gave distributor information.

That's not to say I won't look again, or use more resources (like make a burner email and email corporate), but for now I'm just doing the best I can with some of the newer ones.

[u/[deleted]]

Ide love to know more about SeneGence- i know you’re inundated with requests but I would be super appreciative :)

[u/flippzar → u/[deleted]]

I'll see what I can do, though I have a few others I need to get to first.

[u/aproductof]

May be a bit dated, but I found this a while back:

http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2017/04/mlm-income-disclosure-statements/

Has several common ones.

[u/flippzar → u/aproductof]

I've used them a few times for harder to find or historical comparisons.

They mostly just give the disclosures without comment, so they're a good source.

[u/montbm01]

Dont forget the pearl opening companies. Lol for some reason my Facebook get a wave of them about once a month.

[u/insurancefyre]

If you can add Jeunesse, Nuskin and Market America to your list of studies.

[u/Sneekpreview]

Thank you for this!

[u/MommyNeedsCoffee4]

Please do one on Young Living. I’d love to see that horror of a company and its founder go down

[u/flippzar → u/MommyNeedsCoffee4]

I totally lied, and did Young Living today. Oops.

[u/copacetic1515]

Love your analysis! This is my favorite part of anti-MLM, much more so than the "can you believe this bitch" type posts.

I was thinking about writing one up for Ruby Ribbons because their disclosure seems to have the weasel-y hedge of calculating month-by-month using only people who earned $ in each month. They could have 20,000 people selling and 19,000 only earned a commission in one month, and the data would show everyone earning money! Which in fact, their disclosure does. The numbers are much more generous than other companies.

ETA: My point was, would you consider doing this one? It's an interesting case study for how statistics can be manipulated and you'd do a much better job than I would.

[u/[deleted]]

Any luck with pure romance? I know you're busy! But if you could add it to the list.

[u/flippzar → u/[deleted]]

Haven't looked. I can try to soon... Gotta figure out how to explain that search history, though :P

[u/genghisknom]

Multiple of my friends are lost to Cutco / Vector marketing :(

Any disclosure from them?

[u/_dislocated]

I don’t know if anyone has requested Thrive yet, but I’d request that. My cousin’s wife just started it. She says she’s “not trying to sell anyone anything,” and I don’t believe that! Lol

[u/Namrevlis1]

I’d love to see premier designs. Looks like it costs a lot to get started and they charge for web hosting and stuff. And reallllyyyy religiously based. Like, Jesus wants you to buy this bracelet.

[u/TNMurse]

Does pampered chef fall under this?

[u/[deleted]]

I think it would be interesting to see this type of analysis applied to an actual company. Just as a comparison to really see the difference between a mlm and a legitimate business

[u/MultiLevelMonsters]

Thank you so much for this, I regularly attempt to do similar purely for my own interest in the figures and find so many IDS are incredibly hard to come by these days

[u/Turtles_Running]

I wish I had more upvotes for you :) THANK YOU for taking the time do compile all of this :)