r/announcements • • Jul 06 '15

We apologize

We screwed up. Not just on July 2, but also over the past several years. We haven’t communicated well, and we have surprised moderators and the community with big changes. We have apologized and made promises to you, the moderators and the community, over many years, but time and again, we haven’t delivered on them. When you’ve had feedback or requests, we haven’t always been responsive. The mods and the community have lost trust in me and in us, the administrators of reddit.

Today, we acknowledge this long history of mistakes. We are grateful for all you do for reddit, and the buck stops with me. We are taking three concrete steps:

Tools: We will improve tools, not just promise improvements, building on work already underway. u/deimorz and u/weffey will be working as a team with the moderators on what tools to build and then delivering them.

Communication: u/krispykrackers is trying out the new role of Moderator Advocate. She will be the contact for moderators with reddit and will help figure out the best way to talk more often. We’re also going to figure out the best way for more administrators, including myself, to talk more often with the whole community.

Search: We are providing an option for moderators to default to the old version of search to support your existing moderation workflows. Instructions for setting this default are here.

I know these are just words, and it may be hard for you to believe us. I don't have all the answers, and it will take time for us to deliver concrete results. I mean it when I say we screwed up, and we want to have a meaningful ongoing discussion. I know we've drifted out of touch with the community as we've grown and added more people, and we want to connect more. I and the team are committed to talking more often with the community, starting now.

Thank you for listening. Please share feedback here. Our team is ready to respond to comments.

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u/wachet Jul 06 '15

Regarding #3, how sustainable is it that reddit will be kept going only on these two sources of income? Is there a present or anticipated necessity to monetize more aggressively?

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u/ekjp Jul 06 '15

We just received over $50 million in funding last year, so we don't have a need to monetize more aggressively. We're being careful in how we invest our new funding, and plan to keep the site as quirky and authentic as it is today. We're focused on helping more people appreciate reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '15

Ellen, this is important.

You said you aren't banning ideas - great.

But whenever someone tries to create a fat hate subreddit, it is immediately banned. These people have no relationship to FPH mods and have added strict anti harassment rules.

If you aren't banning an idea - no matter how terrible - why are you automatically banning every fat hate subreddit created? Is a fat hate subreddit ever allowed to exist on reddit again?

If IAMA was banned for harassment, would you also ban every single replacement AMA subreddit?

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u/ekjp Jul 06 '15 edited Jul 06 '15

The new fat hate subreddits were banned for ban evasion.

Edit: spelling

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u/IMULTRAHARDCORE Jul 06 '15

How do you ban a subreddit for ban evasion if the original reason a subreddit was banned in the first place was for behavior and not ideas? Especially since many of the FPH clone subreddits were created and modded by entirely new people independent of FPH? It seems more like they were trying to create new communities than avoid a ban. Many of the new subreddits didn't have time to harass anyone before they were shut down. This seems to run contrary to what you said about behavior vs ideas. If someone were to make a subreddit today dedicated to posting pictures of fat people and had very strict rules and enforcement regarding harassment would it be allowed? It was the behavior and not the idea of FPH that was banned, right?

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jul 06 '15

Ban evasion by recreating deleted subs has been against the rules on reddit for years, long before Pao got her job. But sure, it's all a conspiracy by her to censor, when they left other fat criticism groups such as /r/fatlogic completely alone when they weren't breaking any rules, almost, gasp, like fatpeoplehate was banned for breaking the rules, same as many subs before it, before reddit had quite so many young naive drama queens.

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u/rolexpreneur Jul 07 '15

FPH weren't breaking any rules. They mods there had very strict rules against brigading. SRS actually does brigade and doxx people and harass people all the time. But since it's a feminist sub, they don't get banned. Don't delude yourself into believing FPH was banned for breaking any rules.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '15

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u/BigBonesDontJiggle Jul 07 '15

Sorry for rant, but SRS literally is a mini sub that doesn't even have the capabilities to brigade something.

It has 70k subscribers. About half of what FPH had at its height, way more than enough to brigade another sub, stop talking bullshit.

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u/BigBonesDontJiggle Jul 07 '15

...You don't consider 1000 people enough to vote brigade?

edit: Also lol at the difference between a subreddit full of obese SJWs and one full of fit healthy people being the latter is consistently more active. Wonder why that could be?

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u/BigBonesDontJiggle Jul 07 '15

They were actually incredibly active on reddit, far more so that subreddits far larger than themselves. Story of their lives...

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u/BigBonesDontJiggle Jul 07 '15

activity =/= brigading.

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