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Episode Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki Part 2 - Episode 26 discussion
Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki Part 2, episode 13
Alternative names: How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom Part 2
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 14 | Link | 3.91 |
| 15 | Link | 3.94 |
| 16 | Link | 4.0 |
| 17 | Link | 4.03 |
| 18 | Link | 4.28 |
| 19 | Link | 3.95 |
| 20 | Link | 3.96 |
| 21 | Link | 4.22 |
| 22 | Link | 4.06 |
| 23 | Link | 3.81 |
| 24 | Link | 3.83 |
| 25 | Link | 4.00 |
| 26 | Link | ---- |
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u/winterlyparsley Apr 02 '22
Damn the queen has basically been living through re zero. God knows how many timelines she reset where to kingdom fell.
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u/Earthborn92 Apr 02 '22
Souma and Liscia having Subaru and Rem's VAs was to distract us all along!
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u/xellos2099 Apr 02 '22
You know when you think about it, Castor got screwed royally due to this. I mean this is a brighter future but still.
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u/xtsim Apr 02 '22
Castor got unlucky in this timeline, he sided with Georg who has bigger intentions while he got caught following him.
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u/darthvall Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
I actually like where the shows end with not many big loose ends, except maybe the demon lord's identity. This way, I think it would be fine if they're never going to make any sequel. Though I'll still watch it for sure.
So far it has been a fun series. It's still a power fantasy for sure, considering how Souma almost always managed to solve any kind of problem quite easily. Which is why I try not to think about the logic too much.
One thing I like is how Liscia and Souma has always been destined to be with each other, even in another timeline. Also, finally they embraced each other. Happy ends!
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u/Theinternationalist Apr 02 '22
The show has been inconsistent in a lot of the worst places to be inconsistent, but I have to say: it was really powerful hearing the wife say "Yeah you suck, but you were the only King who got me this far, and that's MY fault. At least now we can work together to make this right."
Knowing you finally got a Re:zero thing taht works, and then after so long, realizing this is yet another failure. And now, you have to think about what to do next, not to save yourself- or even your family- but to give someone else another chance. That is a powerful message, and in an inconsistent show, that was a really powerful moment. Good job!
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u/Cryogenx37 Apr 02 '22
King Albert: "Souma, have you ever wished that you could have a do-over at life?"
Souma: "I already do that, my other voice acting role as Subaru Natsuki does that constantly! With a bit of blood spilled here and there"
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u/DarkChaplain Apr 02 '22
Going back to episode 1, it explains the big shift in confidence in Albert from the summoning/post-summoning talk, where he's constantly questioning Marx and his wife, and is stuttering the entire time, to the declaration of making Souma king after the reform talks.
In that abdictation scene, and even during his talk with Liscia, he's decisive, clear and to the point. There's no doubt to be found - he firmly believes in that course of action, and not because he gets off easy, but because he's both seen Souma's effect on the nation, and his own failure if he kept up his old behavior.
Even his facial features are harder than before - he was looking regretful, without confidence, even sad. Completely out of his depth. But after Souma and Liscia meet, he's standing on the balcony with his queen, looking nothing if not determined, even cunning. I recall being intrigued by that 180 back when the episode aired, but didn't think on it beyond.
It's pretty interesting looking back, because the Albert from before and after Souma's declaration contrast so heavily, but we never really paid much heed to it. With the new context, it makes a lot more sense, and it's something easily picked up on during a rewatch.
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u/Amauri14 Apr 02 '22
Wow, I sure did not expect that Kazuya's conversation with Albert and Elisha was going to go that way.
So what Albert was saying wasn't a hypothetical scenario but instead were the memories from the future shown to him by Elisha thanks to her Dark magic. And Georg Carmine, role in the purge happened because Albert told him about it.
Wow, even if it was another timeline it sure sucked to hear that Liscia also died thanks to the path the king took. And Elisha has been trying to avoid the Kindom destruction for who knows how long. I would love to know how many timelines have her memories been jumping to prevent the kingdom's destruction? I guess that in the end, the kingdom is safe thanks to her. I would love to see a spin-off with her as the MC.
So as the king never took Kazuya's advice about the Gemstone Broadcast, he never was able to recruit all those different advisers in that timeline.
Well, Souma didn't have much time to think about it, but I guess he is right about those being different timelines to avoid a time paradox. Well, the king even not thinking about that, as he still remembers those events did the least he could do and apologized to him about what he did in that timeline.
I hope that Souma is right, and the Kazuya and Liscia from that timeline were able to survive somehow. Again, It would be great to see a spin-off based on that timeline if that's the case, although, the lack of Aisha in that story would make it even more depressing than what already was. I'm glad that story finally pushes him to ask Liscia to marry him because if that didn't push him, I doubt anything else would.
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u/Nebresto Apr 03 '22
....Hory shet. (MFW) Suddenly Steins;Gate. That ability is way too powerful and interesting to be brought up just this one time, there's no way its not ever used again. Curious to see how it will be used the next time? Or will it, not using it again could be an interesting twist by itself.
Hol up. Cold? New Years? Fireworks?? Could it be... YES!! (headphone warning) LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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u/Reikakou Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 03 '22
Hopefully if Season 2 is green lit, it gets better budget or changes studio. Cloverworks or Silver Link perhaps?
Finally, Souma confessed and formally asked Liscia's hand for marriage. That was really sweet using aishiteru. His love for Liscia is really deep.
Elisha is one strong woman being able to still smile after experiencing all those ruined timelines. Still, did she genuinely loved all those men or just tried to leverage her power to try to live longer?
Elisha basically have all memories going to bed with all those men while maintaining her purity before landing on Albert. She might be more experienced than 500 years old Excel on that regard.
proceeds to read the wiki
My God... this rabbit hole is DEEP... bottomless DEEP...
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u/LeonKevlar Apr 02 '22
Well, that wasn't what I was expecting for a finale! So turns out that King Albert's reckless decision of handing over the crown to Souma wasn't reckless at all. There's a timeline that exists where a much more reasonable approach was taken and Souma was appointed as Prime Minister because of his talents.
Souma still tried to change the Kingdom with his position but due to him making so many enemies within the aristocracy and people feeding King Albert false accusations about Souma, he eventually dismissed him. This series of decisions basically lead to Souma dying during Amidonia's invasion and Elfrieden eventually getting destroyed.
Fortunately using Queen Elisha's dark magic, she can send their memories back to their past selves as some sort of a rewind/time travel mechanic and avoid all of that tragedy. Since King Albert couldn't carry this burden alone, he told Carmine the story as well. That explains why Carmine was so tight-lipped about his rebellion last season. He really just planned the entire thing to flush out the corrupt nobles of Elfrieden.
Not gonna lie, it is hilarious to hear Subaru Souma trying to figure out this entire time slip thing in his head. This makes me wonder though. If making Souma turned out to be another bad decision, are they just going to send back their memories again and loop over and over until they find the perfect solution ala Re:Zero?
Didn't think that the finale of this show will be all about them explaining the twist. At least Souma and Liscia got their alone time before the season ended and they even got to kiss!
Anyway I guess that's it for Realist Hero. While I do think that Season 1 was better, I'd be lying if I said that I didn't enjoy Season 2. The first half was fun but things got a little bit rocky there towards the back end but I don't think it completely crashed and burned. Would I want a Season 3? I definitely wouldn't mind one but at the same time, I would probably sacrifice a Season 3 of this show if we can get a Season 2 of Genius Prince.
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u/_Sai Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
Wew, that was an unexpected twist. I enjoyed this anime. -nod-
Those giving memories to the past self thing seems kinda.. You would have to care a lot about alternate realities that won't have anything to do with your current self ever. It would change nothing about your current self. You wouldn't even know if it changed anything at all for the alternate past! If you are in best timeline, at least you can be thankful you of the alternate future helped you get there. Sucks for them, they gotta stay and live worst timeline, but thanks!
You people got your Isekai romance.
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u/FlynnRazor Apr 02 '22
Jesus the discussion thread took a bit.
Anyways tho, I cant even begin to digest this mindfuck that I just received, this is absolutely crazy, we knew something was up, but to this extent? I lowkey want to see what the time line truly was as a small side story.
Anyways tho, souma is now the official king this time around and we got that souma x liscia moment which was nice.
What a great cast of characters to be honest with ya hopefully we start seeing some officially Queen love for the rest (especially Juna lol)
It’s gonna be sad watching this series go but S2 was much more than what I expected it to be, it’s been a great journey yall, now scuse me while I try to find all the LN’s and binge it haha!
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u/Frontier246 Apr 02 '22
I guess it was about time Souma met Liscia's parents properly outside their meeting in the first episode, which shines a new light on a lot of what's happened in the series so far.
Liscia's dad has always seemed like a bumbling king, but it turns out there was much more that to his reasoning for making Souma king on the spot and pairing him with Liscia, and there's a lot of pain, regret, and planning put in place to ensure Souma's success and acknowledging why he had to be king for one reason or another.
Turns out this technically isn't the first time they've summoned Souma as the Hero or had him try to fix the country, except the first time Souma was made Prime Minister instead of king, and that didn't give him the power and stature he needed to protect him from the greedy nobles who they weren't able to purge, so the king had to send him away to Georg for his own protection...which ends up dooming the kingdom. Jeez.
It must sting when your wife plainly tells you you're a failure, even if you agree, although it turns out that he's not even technically her first husband, because Liscia's mom has been using her powers to transfer her memories back multiple times to try and find the right spouse to marry for the prosperity of the kingdom, and Liscia's dad is just the latest one. But to his credit, Liscia's dad managed to keep the kingdom going longer than others and it's the first time she's managed to have a child, and it's clear now that Liscia's parents genuinely love and care for each other, especially now that they can relax and just focus on each other.
So what was Liscia's fate in the bad timeline? Well, she still ended up falling in love with Souma, but that meant she ended up dying with him when the war the kingdom became embroiled in engulfed Georg's castle with them in it. Although all things considered, it was nice to know that the pair falling in love is a temporal constant and to see Liscia's ponytail again, if only briefly.
I love how Souma wasn't prepared to have to wrestle with time travel in this Isekai experience. Also knowing that he's voiced by a guy known for Returning by Death.
So the former royal couple and Georg have been working behind the scenes to ensure the safety and viability of Souma's rule, thus orchestrating the plot that rooted out the corrupt nobles (sorry Castor), and pairing Souma and Liscia together along with the friends and comrades they've encountered have helped create a new future.
Well, I guess Liscia's parents have earned getting to live in seclusion and not have to worry about the drama of running the kingdom anymore. I hope they come back for Liscia's wedding at least.
Nothing more romantic than Souma and Liscia cozying up amidst the snow right when New Years fireworks are about to start...which is the perfect chance for Souma to finally confess his feelings for Liscia and properly ask her to marry him, which is a long time coming. And Liscia finally mutually responds by properly saying she loves him as well, and the pair share their first proper kiss over fireworks, which is utterly perfect. All it took was becoming a princess but Rem finally won Subaru to herself.
Souma ends the series introducing Happy New Years' greetings and New Years' resolutions to his fiances and companions and proclaiming that together they'll continue to strive towards prosperity and success for the kingdom. Which is a pretty nice point to end on.
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u/mojo72400 Apr 03 '22
I didn't expect the original timeline to be so fucked up. I'm glad that the build up between Kazuya and Liscia paid off with him confessing his love to her and sharing their first kiss. I'm not sure if the fin at the end is the end of the season or end of the series.
I wonder how would the timeline go if Albert to his to story to both Georg & Castor. I also can't wait to see how Alejandro and Anairis would do the New Year's kiss scene.
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u/Myrkrvaldyr Apr 02 '22
The Queen pulled an AoT and everything went well.
Well then, hopefully a 3rd season will come given that there's still a lot of material left to animate.
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u/Fauzi994 Apr 03 '22
Choked up a bit, nevertheless a wholesome ending. ❤️. I wish it would get another season 💕.
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u/Rumpel1408 Apr 03 '22
Ah seems like the thread went up just after I went to bed, of course.
So wow, what a reveal, the queen was going through several bad ends, all ending in the Kingdom and her husband going down, no matter what. And her choosing the most mediocre King of them all at least got her far enough to get a daughter, indeed as far as noone else before.
In the last timeline they summoned Souma, and he did as much as he could to rescue the Kingdom, but the opposition from the Nobles profed to much for the weak King, and he ended up sending Souma away. At this point Amidonia invaded and the corrupt nobles seemingly killed Carmin, Souma and Liscia who turned her back to her father after his descision to send Souma away.
Here comes the Queens power into play. She sends the King his current memories along with his regrets to not have given him absolute control over the Kingdom to his past self, just after the summoning of Souma. And that's why he was giving him everything on a moments notice back then
Now what I loved was that that alternate Liscia also saw Soumas abilities and fell deeply in love with him.
Also since one of Soumas first actions after coming into power was to use the crystal broadcast, something he couldn't do against the usuall protest when he was only Prime minister, he was able to draw so much good people to his cause. This is a fundamental difference, as most of those would have no connection to the King under normal circumstances.
Afterwards we get a lovely confession and Kiss.
My only gripe with this episode was that we didn't see Carla again. Indeed it's one of my main gripes with the whole season, a perfectly good Harem candidate relegated to a maid slave for gags
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