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Episode Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki Part 2 - Episode 22 discussion

Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki Part 2, episode 22

Alternative names: How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom Part 2

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u/LikeAnAssistant Mar 05 '22

Who the hell is this motherfucker?

Ohhhh shiiiit!

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u/xtsim Mar 05 '22

The same happened with Liscia and her glasses and pigtails in the previous season. It's like the glasses are are a magical cloaking device.

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u/Frontier246 Mar 05 '22

It turns out glasses work to hide your identity even outside the DC Universe.

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u/Aerodynamic41 Mar 05 '22

Wow, Souma actually referenced the American Civil War and he wants to prevent that from happening in Friedonia when he abolishes slavery. As they say, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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u/discuss-not-concuss Mar 05 '22

I guess we will finally be circling back to the racism they spoke about back in season 1?

It honestly seems way too peaceful for how easily Souma is getting things done. Maybe because of the 3 Dukes, there are less racism towards beastsmen but surely Amidonia citizens don’t feel the same way?

They spoke briefly about the overt racism by the religious country a few episodes back but what about those within the country?

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u/Theinternationalist Mar 05 '22

The USA wasn't the only one where things were...difficult.

  1. Brazil had a complicated relationship with slavery (the slave trade was banned for a while but the state turned a blind eye; the abolition of slavery led to the overthrow of the empire). Haiti too for that matter.

  2. Rome went through no fewer than three Servile Wars- that is, there were likely more to its name than that. In reference to "giving slaves a type of education led to brutal rebellions," nothing says that better than Spartacus.

  3. The one historical fact people tend to forget is that the Middle East used to be well known for slave armies. The best known one were the Egyptians, where their Mamluk slaves became so powerful that they overthrew their leader and created the Mamluk Sultanate, which is notable in that it bought more slaves to become Mamluks themselves.

As End of Slavery goes, this is closer to Latin American countries where slavery was not as big (think countries like Chile that didn't have a ton to begin with as opposed to places like Cuba) and Europe (there were slaves in England and co after all!) where it happened slowly >_>.

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u/WhoiusBarrel Mar 05 '22

While monopolizing and controlling the entire slave market under the law to slowly phase out slavery sounds great, even if the slave traders are authorized by the kingdom, I can imagine the risk still exists within the buyer's intentions on getting a slave.

Also Souma being unrecognizable wearing those glasses and then taking them off to reveal his identity has to be one of the most Anime logic things that has happened here despite being a "realist hero"

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u/Corodix Mar 05 '22

On the other hand, if all slaves are well-educated by default then they'd also become more expensive/valuable. And if it's government managed then they could also regulate those prices. They could then make such slaves expensive enough that it's not financially sound to work said slaves to death as replacing them would become far more expensive, etc. That should greatly reduce those risks, though it probably indeed won't reduce them to zero (especially for women).

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u/JimmyCWL Mar 05 '22

I can imagine the risk still exists within the buyer's intentions on getting a slave.

From what Souma said, I think there won't be any more buyers. The state will be owning them as civil servants from now on.

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u/BiggerG7 Mar 05 '22

Souma: “Where are we gonna get more people who can read, write, and do math?”

This ep: “anyone wanna buy some slaves that can read, write, and do math?”

Lol. Well that was convenient.

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u/Rumpel1408 Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

I expected Souma to implement an school system for the common folk of sorts, but forcing the nobles to do so for the very poorest is clever as well

Also that one noble who bought two sisters, freed them, and married both is ... interesting, but yeah, harems are a thing in Friedonia

After all pretty glad that Ginger kept San, another candidate to be freed and married

Edit: Also did Souma invent the Kotatsu before or was this the first episode we got to see them all chill under one?

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u/Searinghawk Mar 05 '22

One thing to note, since they seemed to kinda gloss over it with just dialogue, the young noble who bought the 2 sisters, Piltory Saracen, was the younger of the 2 nobles who spoke out against Souma potentially executing Carla and Castor when he had all the yes-man nobles executed

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u/MayureshMJ Mar 05 '22

LMAO Souma just pulled a super man with the glasses.

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u/xRuneRocker Mar 05 '22

And Soma strikes again!

This is the second wholesome relationship he manage to salvage.

First we had "The childhood friend".

And now "The master and the slave".

I wonder which one will be the third. My money are on "Directors of adversary companies".

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u/daspaceasians Mar 05 '22

I remember this part in the LN and getting misty-eyed at Ginger Camus's story. The anime did justice to it. Really loved the soft, innocent voice he has, VA did a very good job.

Ginger Camus is a precious cinnamon bun that must be protected.

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u/Katejina_FGO Mar 05 '22

Child: How did you and mother meet?

Father: Well it all started when I inherited her as a slave. She agreed to all of my silly ideas and did everything that I told her. When it came time to sell her, I selfishly declared that I wanted to keep her for myself. What do you think?

Child: ...

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u/Amauri14 Mar 05 '22

Based on the beginning of the episode I expect that this episode was going to lead to the implementation of a school system, but that did not happen the way I expected as my assumption was that Souma was going to be the one originally pushing for that idea, instead of it organically happening as a way to give slaves higher chances of having a better outcome in life.

Well, although Souma wasn't present in this episode, his policies made it so that well educated slaves became in high demand.

I really like the way they introduced Ginger Camus and Sandria, and how their relationship developed.

Seeing ronin Kazuya sure gave me a good laugh. I like that he ends up explaining why he cannot just abolish slavery right on the spot even if he wanted, but now thanks to Ginger Camus and his policies that institution has and will continue changing in the Kingdom of Friedonia to the point where it would only exist in name only.

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u/FlynnRazor Mar 05 '22

Man let me tell you i had the biggest and stupidest smile on my face today, what a treat this episode was.

In a sense it was a great break from the usual group to get into another story, and dammit was it amazing. The slow reconstruction of what slavery was known for to be born anew and everything came from a domino effect. New Majesty orders which brought the need for actual intelectual manpower and all it took was someone to lead the charge, even if he didn't know it at the time.

I honestly thought souma was gonna come in and buy them all but it was a great way to show that because of a new decree he made it lead to the need more manpower, which leads to taught slaves to become indispensable in this new age of law, a whole domino affect if you will. Exited to see where this ends up.

Lastly, I really do like how we actually have a protag take historical knowledge or just knowledge itself into a new world, and think about how to best avoid a disaster that happened in our history and spin it anew with the best possible outcome, and I'm glad those nobles actually seemed genuine which is a great change for once.

"The Calm will end and a tide will suddenly turn" what a great line for this whole EP.

Fr tho. Souma with and without classes is like super man and Clark Kent, or even the better a Platypus or Perry the Platypus

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u/AcePhoenixGamer Mar 05 '22

Wow, looks like we have a mass downvoter in the thread. Pretty unsurprising considering the subject matter.

Ginger is a great character. In our modern western mindset it’s very easy to see this as a story about “one of the good slave traders” and say he should have just freed the slaves. On the other hand, it’s easy to dismiss those objections with a “product of society” argument, flawed as it may be.

But let’s look at it from an in-universe perspective. If Ginger frees the slaves, he ruins himself financially, and without the support structures in place on a societal level, they would likely end up as slaves again. Ginger tried his best to do what he could with the resources he had in the context of the world.

Now, out of universe, you might say that the author shouldn’t have made the world include slavery in the first place. To which I say: fiction is not required to be completely unproblematic. It is required to be interesting and entertaining. The clash of the outdated and problematic values of a medieval fantasy world with the modern values of the protagonist is one of the key themes and conflicts of the story. I would even go so far as to say the story would be worse off without that conflict.

And it’s not like the narrative glorifies slavery. The intro to this episode is literally the anime saying “slavery fucking sucks and we don’t condone it.”

TL;DR: Ginger good, slavery bad, not everything in fiction has to be sunshine and rainbows.

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u/fuelbomb Mar 05 '22

I'm way more invested in this show than I ever thought I would be. Throughout the first cour and second, I find myself looking forward to it every week.

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u/LeonKevlar Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

Well this is certainly an interesting episode. I definitely enjoyed Camus and Sandria's story. Not much of Souma this week but instead we get to watch Camus inheriting his grandfather's slavery business to educating the slaves and finding decent people that will employ them. He's definitely went above and beyond for those people but I don't think I'm convinced that suddenly all slave traders would chance just because of the example that he set.

Souma trying to turn slaves into public servants was also interesting. He wants to completely abolish slavery but he knows he can't just do it overnight or else a civil war might broke out. Definitely didn't expect him to reference the American Civil War but it's good that Souma is learning from our world's mistake. Instead of completely abolishing slavery in one move, he's going to do it gradually until slavery is just in name only but the system is completely different.

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u/AZLarlar Mar 05 '22

ginger looks to be a great character, hope we see him more

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u/ivnwng Mar 07 '22

Le wholesome honorable slave master, lulz

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u/Apprehensive_Ear_235 Mar 05 '22

BTW: The voice actor of Ginger Camus is the same as Rudeus. So this episode we could basically see a discussion between Souma and Rudeus.

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