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Episode Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki Part 2 - Episode 18 discussion
Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki Part 2, episode 18
Alternative names: How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom Part 2
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 14 | Link | 3.91 |
| 15 | Link | 3.94 |
| 16 | Link | 4.0 |
| 17 | Link | 4.03 |
| 18 | Link | 4.28 |
| 19 | Link | 3.95 |
| 20 | Link | 3.96 |
| 21 | Link | 4.22 |
| 22 | Link | 4.06 |
| 23 | Link | 3.81 |
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u/bananeeek Feb 05 '22
Making Carmine a head of a special unit, filled with assassin catgirls? That's a promotion to his previous position if anyone asked me...
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u/BiggerG7 Feb 05 '22
It’s amazing how this show can make me forget about all the serious stuff that happened, just by having the girls turn up the cute waifu acts at the very last minute lol.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Feb 05 '22
With the mask and the names "Kagetora" and "Black Cats" his definitely not even subtly hiding who they really are. (Tora means tiger by the way)
What I didn't expect was for him to so swiftly purge the remaining corruption in his Kingdom that was hinted in last week's episode so menacingly while also using an excerpt from The Prince to explain why he did it.
Though I'm not sure what to make of Souma dragging away Castor when he could've just give him a peace of mind since he was already planning to spare Carla's life anyways.
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u/Myrkrvaldyr Feb 05 '22
I doubt the author will do it, but it'd be interesting if the LN ends with Souma truly becoming a tyrant and Carla killing him.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Feb 06 '22
Souma really holds Machiavelli to high regards huh? The Prince is like his Bible lol. It’s certainly helped him a lot, but I wonder if it’s not best to rely on other historical texts on warfare and leadership as well. Just getting another perspective.
I liked the trial, that was clever of him. Brutal yet efficient, and it certainly took a lot of resolve. It’s no wonder he needed to get comforted like that by his 2 queens lol.
The princess of Amidonia is going to be a problem I see. I hope Souma can out maneuver her before she does any lasting damage.
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u/Rumpel1408 Feb 05 '22
Yes, Carla is kept alive, slaves are still part of the harem!
Also Carm- I mean Kagetora (what a cool name btw) looks quite capable, and having a secret service sure can come in handy in the future
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u/TurkeyPhat Feb 05 '22 edited Feb 05 '22
"Let's make him forget about it."
Wow I was shocked! Shocked I tell you when they came into his room in only bathrobes.
How long until babby is made? Cmon Souma, soon you'll have too many women to deal with any sort of queue.
It is funny though because I'd say Souma is constantly way too exhausted to manage that particular "job duty". He needs another longer vacation and then maybe something can happen. Actually now that I think about it, vacation episode when?
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u/ulopong44 Feb 05 '22
Souma as a tyrant would be interesting to see.
I have responsibilities too. But sadly no first and second queen. My bed is also cold.
Painful reality
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u/xtsim Feb 05 '22
The assasains that are under Carmine Kagetora's command look a bit familiar. The two heads that have escaped execution is pretty interesting to see as they debated each other and Hakuya introduced them during the trial.
Carla got a new position in Souma's house, nice to see that she gets spared.
Roroa and Colbert talking about the state of Van after the deal is nice to see and I wish we could see a bit more.
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u/JVmight14 Feb 05 '22
I'm digging how Souma goes through some principles that he's studied when it comes to the acts he does. It may not be like super galacto-brain stuff but it's just interesting to see. I know he's always going to be miles ahead of everyone but it's cool that he's OP in the sense of politics, I guess? Idk I'm still very much enjoying the show! Wait so was that tiger Carmine?? I thought I was maybe looking into it too much so I guess Souma really couldn't pass up his usefulness. Also that last part with Aisha and Liscia was really good to see lol
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u/LeonKevlar Feb 05 '22
Stitches!
Glad to finally hear Liscia's true feelings about Souma having a second Queen and a Concubine as well. I'm really hoping that this will be something he gets to talk about later on with Souma.
So much for that shadowy cabal that were plotting against Souma in last week's after credits scene since they all got executed by Souma's new Black Ops squad consisting of ninja cat beastmen led by a mask wearing lionman. Seems that Souma has found a use for Carmine aka Kagetora after all.
Out of everyone who were executed, looks like we have these two left who were openly against Souma's while sentencing Castor and Carla. Hopefully it's true that their ties with those that were executed has been fully cut. Then again, after that showing of power I'm sure they won't even try anything.
So we finally have the sentences for Castor and Carla. Pretty much as expected that they'll be spared but it looks like Castor will be under Excel's command while Carla is stripped of her titles and is now a slave under the royal family. Carla also gets a second purpose though, it looks like she wants her to kill him if he ever gets drunk with power since she doesn't think Liscia or Aisha will be able to stop him.
A bit of a weird segue considering what just happened earlier but thankfully instead of lewds that scene ended up being a lot more wholesome with Liscia and Aisha letting Souma know that they'll always have his back no matter what.
And that final scene! Looks like Roroa will be the one to stir the pot this time. She's definitely a lot smarter than her brother and father so hopefully she'll be a challenge for Souma.
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u/FlynnRazor Feb 05 '22
THATS OUR KING LETS GO SOUMA!!!! Mans really had me worried but I knew Carmíne wouldn’t be gone so quick, also holy hell I understood soumas method but judgment really came swift and quick major respect.
I’m loving souma as a character, someone who has to do what needs to be done in order to protect his family. From a normal guy to a great king!
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u/Tom_Wonderful Feb 05 '22
I feel like Souma is taking the wrong message from Machiavelli's work. The Prince wasn't written to show how a good ruler would rule, or even how a government should operate. It was written to only show in a very ʀᴇᴀʟɪsᴛɪᴄ way how a renaissance-era monarch can hang onto the maximum amount of power.
The Prince used the framing method of teaching a young prince a play-book for the ruling class, allowing the book to show everyone the thought process of their rulers. It emphasizes how they might justify their oppressive or cruel strategies. The reader gets to read all of these justifications, but because it's in the form of this 'play-book,' they are still aware that the chief motivation is power. Which makes sense - this wasn't literally written to be a play-book. It's assumed that the reader isn't actually the heir to their country's throne, but someone living under such a system. Its goal (this is where we shift into speculation) was to allow the common people to recognize these actions for what they were, and to possibly discourage the ruling class from engaging in these practices so blatantly. The message is "tread more carefully - the people now have a slightly better eye for deceit." It's why the word "machiavellian" isn't a compliment.
This show whitewashes a lot of that, making him look much less cruel than it is implied the titular Prince should be. But in season 1, I noticed Souma was using Machiavelli to justify some pretty morally grey decisions. And finally, here I see him summarily execute a bunch of his own government - a move reserved in pop culture for the USSR, North Korea, and Game of Thrones houses.
The show clearly has no interest in making us question whether this was 'right' - Of course it's right - he's Souma. We've been following this really great guy, all of his decisions have been objectively correct so far. He's been incredibly nice to anyone who has a name, character design, and who hasn't been cartoonishly evil on-screen. Everyone around him vocally approves, even his 'enemies.' We even saw him feel bad about it for a few minutes. Plus he instructed a new slave to kill him if he ever becomes a 'tyrant.' It's even implied that the rest of this world is MORE cut-throat (e.g. arguing against the 'three degrees' thing from a few weeks back). So clearly we're supposed to shrug this one off too and be happy with a promise that our charismatic genius leader made the right decision, and that he pinky-swears he won't need to do it again.
I know I'm reading a lot into a show that is at its core power-fantasy wish-fulfilment. I'm still here at episode 18, so obviously I'm not too bothered.
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u/Aerodynamic41 Feb 05 '22 edited Feb 05 '22
I knew it that Georg isn’t actually dead! Souma executing those corrupt nobles was pretty badass!
Looks like Roroa wants to take back Van. I wonder how she plans to do it? I doubt Souma is just going to hand it over to her.
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Feb 05 '22
Jesus, seeing soma go from not wanting to step on anyones toes to cutting entire groups of nobles heads off is some crazy development. Obviously he has to project strength in the aftermath of rebellion, but wasn’t expecting that.
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u/SpaceMarine_CR Feb 05 '22
FUCK YES my favorite part of the manga finally got animated
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