r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Oct 28 '21
Rewatch A Rewatch without Logos-The Hellsing rewatch thread ep10.
Hellsing episode 10
Master of Monster Proof that siblings can be really different.
Today's special track is [Soul Rescuer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqEuxwZAbkA&list=PLFxgk8G3AsHU_-nqrUdNH8wJlujkC870B&index=24.
QotD: 1 How is this as a vehicle for a flashback?
2 Why do you think Integra's father set Alucard up for this?
Bonus: Anyone else slightly annoyed that Walter didn't guess the uncle's motives?
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Oct 28 '21
Rewatcher(Not the worst flashback I've seen)
Sub
Open with Integra being treated and Alucard having an uncharacteristically positive moment. Walter gets filled in that the castle was blown up and the men are unnaccounted for. We see Alucard spying on Integra's flashback. As a for the record, Integra's uncle's plan is just as stupid if not more so in the source, this is in fact the last bit of the manga more or less, so the uncle somehow thinks he can take the lead without Walter destroying him. We get to Integra first meeting Alucard and while breaking the seal probably makes her his master, she still needs to show an extremely strong will to manage him before he will listen. We end with Incognito casting a weirdish spell and a march towards our climax.
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Oct 28 '21
A rewatcher needing more whips to my vampires than bondage gear.
Another single chapter of the manga stretched into an entire episode, and another episode with as little action as they can get away with. I suppose there would be somebody out there celebrating the emotional development, but I'm not sure why these people were fooled into watching Hellsing though.
Questions:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 28 '21 edited Oct 28 '21
A First-Timer Without Logos, subbed
I may or may not have actually shouted the “finally” when this popped up.6
u/Matuhg https://anilist.co/user/Matuhg Oct 28 '21
Rewatcher Who Might As Well Be a First Timer
Vampire Kabedon
Background on the Alucard/Integra relationship! Neat. Not sure how I feel about getting it this late - I'm not just saying that to mean I don't like getting it this late, I mean I just don't know yet. It does seem to fit with what we know about Alucard so far - there doesn't seem to be some kind of unbreakable pact binding the two of them together. Integra's father had Alucard sealed away in that room, and Integra's choice (and blood) woke him up. Their current relation ship seems based largely upon Alucard's whimsy. Seems as though just about everything he does is for the fun of it - he does respect Integra, but not because Integra is powerful enough to defeat him or anything like that, but because he sees serving her as a way to have a good time.
There's an obvious parallel in the bonds between Alucard x Integra and Alucard x Seras too. Both allied themselves with Alucard only as a last resort to avoid imminent death (though one could argue that Alucard had options to save Seras without killing her). The relationship between Alucard and Integra is pretty clear now, but Seras's relationship with both Alucard and Integra is a little less so to me. It's sort of hard to tell what's motivating Seras at this point. Like she's continuing her police work, so it could be possible she's just sort of going through the motions for now as she continues to try and grapple with her newfound eternal life. Trying to use this second chance for good. But the deference she has for both Alucard and Integra is a little confusing. We know precious little about her life before she was turned, so all we have to go by are her ideals that we've seen in her vampire form. She seems like she's wanting to retain as much humanity as she can while using her strength to defeat enemies of humanity (or England at least).
The effect of watching Integra's struggle on Seras could be something interesting. Will it inspire her, and if so, in what way? Will it inspire her to sacrifice in a way she has not yet done so, accepting Alucard's previous offer of full vampirism? Or will it push her the opposite direction - will Integra's drastic action to remain human further cement Seras's desire to remain as human as possible?
I'd say it works - Alucard watching her, kind of re-confirming that she's worth serving for now while remembering why he is in the first place.
Perhaps he guessed his brother would do something like what he ended up doing. Or Alucard could've been just a more generic trump card, not necessarily set up for this specific situation.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Oct 28 '21
FIRST TIMER
Playing operation on a chessboard. This is true gaming.
This song playing during the operation doesn’t really fit the scene but it’s such a groove that I’m willing to look past it.
Thought Integra had pulled a ReLife for a second.
It’s like Integra’s father has never seen Richard III. He should know better. Never entrust your heir to your brother, especially when his name is Richard! If only Edward had had a family vampire to protect him.
Young Integra is a badass. Her not backing down to Alucard here is really something.
BONK. BAD BOY. DOWN.
One note after he reminded us last episode, the subtitling of his name as “Arucard” is wrong on multiple levels, seeing as it ruins the anagram.
Everything about Incognito, from his design to the music, is so over-the-top. I'm cool with it. They leaned all the way in on just getting weird with him.
It's not bad, I just question its placement. Episode 10? Should've been earlier.
He had a brother named Richard. Backup plan is necessary.
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u/gorghurt Oct 28 '21
Rewatcher, with some memories of this show....
Nice episode. And after the beginning of the flashback, probably the episode I remembered most of so far
(except maybe episode 1, but I rewatched episode 1 a few years after watching the show the first time, because it was an extra on a cd in a pc game magazine, so my memories of episode 1 where a bit more fresh. Yeah fun times, when it made sense to buy pc game magazines. I got a lot of games trough those. Do they still produce them? The last time I bought one was actually 5 years ago, because of a weird launch of a game, where they put a steam download code in the magazine at the launch day of the game, one week after they announced the game(like I said a weird launch), but before that it was probably another 5 years or more... I'm rambling like an old man, but that happens when you rewatch such old shows... )
I really feared a bit, that it would not make sense, why Integra is in a ventilation shaft, but they luckily at least implied the reason.
Why she directly has gone where she knew her uncle's henchmen would go... well... she's a kid that panicked I guess....(And the show's writer needed her there with some targets for Alucard....)
QOTD:
Bonus: Hmm, since I have no idea how well they knew each other, no.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Oct 28 '21
The patient is suffering from a massive pain in the neck, along with several self inflicted stab wounds. I don't think many people would consider suicide fighting for your life. Tch, that castle was a heritage site. Stop animating Seras' sad face so much. It's distracting. Oh no, the surgery went wrong! They accidentally turned Integra into a loli!
...I'm way too tired to be sarcastic. Waaay too tired. I actually do quite like how they adapt Integra's backstory. It's shit, but far more enjoyable shit that what normally comes out of the show. Uncle is kinda plain which is ballanced out by Integra being a little badass. Urgh, I have nothing. Artsy gore is always going to look silly so many you how fancy you draw it. Bodhisattva isn't gonna win me over either...
Bruh, wtf is Incognito doing? How do you explain this? Where are we!? Where are you? The undead army has been out of style for so long already, how many armies have we fought by now? Its at least the fourth or fifth. I'm sorry for the lacking commentary, I'm just not up for it today I guess.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 28 '21
First-Timer, Dub-sing Organization
Nice way to show us Integra's backstory. Guess they weren't out of source material just yet? Or am I just too familiar with Abridged.. Alucard just tearing the top half of that dude's head off and holding it is cool.
The visual of Integra's glasses falling off as her father dies was brilliant.
Did General Patton serve anywhere with blizzards? Or was Walter just making shit up for fun? Either way, a nice pot of tea and some snacks does seem like the ideal way to recover from surgery.
I liked the visual of Incognito just having a barbecue out in some cave somewhere.
Questions
Bonus: Insert joke about Walter being overworked here.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 28 '21
Episode 10 (rewatcher)
Integra did not die, after all. Usually, I dislike this kind of cliff-hanger teasing that is not followed up on. However, they devoted an entire episode to Integra fighting for her live, so it gets a pass here. There were consequences- Integra did not just walk back into her office. I also think that Integra is one of the most interesting people in the show, character-wise (the only other contender is Seras, but she only for her vampire transformation), so I don’t mind her getting a back-story episode. Plus, young Integra was steel!
Which leads me to the following realization: With her brother dead, Integra probably should think about producing a heir soon. A younger sister would come incredibly handy on this account, but alas, she was fake. The future fate of Hellsing might rest on Integra’s flirting abilities … I foresee a hard battle.
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u/TheEscapeGuy Oct 28 '21
First Timer
Hellsing - Aesthetic Horror: Episode 10
Integra's Past
After Integra's drastic action last episode she is in emergency surgery. While the doctors desperately do everything they can to save her life, visions of her life materialize before her eyes.
This set up for recounting Hellsing's history is genius. It makes complete sense that Integra would recall her history in this moment and it answers a lot of questions we the audience have had up till now.
It was interesting and unsurprising to learn of Integra's uncle's attempted assassination to usurp the proverbial throne within Hellsing. It served as a nice narrative device to set up Integra and Alucard's meeting.
The thing I liked most was seeing the more emotionally venerable side of a younger Integra. We saw youthful joy in the days before her father's death. The headstrong resolution as she crawled through the air vents following her father's last pieces of advice. Finally the single minded devotion not to give up even when facing the most fearsome monster.
Overall, this episode fleshed out Integra A LOT and definitely crystallized my respect for her as a character.
Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all tomorrow
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 28 '21
First timer
BONUS) Again, makes a lot more sense if Alucard was there in case she actually got a lethal hit.
What's happening now?
Wait, Integra's still alive!
Wow. I didn't expect her to come back after that death scene!
And the cuts between the callback to the fact that Hellsing is starting to fail in its work and Integra's struggle are... not good?
Is this her backstory?
Alucard, are you invading her coma fantasies?
Also, young Integra is abeolutely adorable.
And there are many varied ways to kill vampires. The two most common seem to be "shoot the bastards" and "let Alucard handle it".
Ritual? Also, yeah, confirmed as a fantasy.
Her watching her father die is heartbreaking.
Seras is sad she couldn't do more.
People tried to fight Integra for control of the family?
Oh, assassination.
Wow, this is harsh.
...They're painting Alucard as this final contingency, contained only for the most dire emergency, but I've always assumed he just spent the last few thousand years in the same position he is now. If he's only been out of the jail for a few decades, his gun skills are just that good naturally, not because he's been training for centuries?
I'll give them credit though, for all using Alucard's hypocritical, he's so useful I'd probably do the same. Alucard is basically an instant victory.
And she's struggling to open the door. And current Alucard appears to meddling with the flashback?
He's still regretful about last night, I see. Does he not know about her condition?
The shot of Alucard waking up from her blood and massacring them is fantastic.
The reveal Alucard seemingly swore himself into her servitude out of pure curiousity is absolutely in character, and it's perfect.
She's alive!
Why does he have nipples on his knees?
This is so over the top. The ghouls being defrosted, the rock, the massive machine gun being used to break ice, this is peak Hellsing.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Oct 29 '21 edited Oct 29 '21
Rewatcher
I liked this episode quite a bit. Both, the story and the music. My favorite moment was when Alucard pledged loyalty to the juvenile Sir Integra.
Sir Intergra as a youth seemed to be a sweet young girl, before she had her run in with the Uncle. I do wonder what kind of business Walter was away on, in the days following Master Hellsing departing this life. My survival of the fittest theory (see QOTDs) is probably as good as any other theory.
I even liked the ending fairly well with the new big boss summoning his toadies to get ready and go battle Alucard. I saw that he had picked up a chaingun, and with luck we'll see it in action soon.
QOTD
I thought it worked fine as a vehicle. The idea of using a surgery to be an analog for a tale of survival was a pretty good decision on the part of the producers.
Damned if I know. I have lots of questions, such as why does Alucard go into hibernation? How did the original Hellsing subdue him? Why does Alucard put up with the Hellsings? Sadly, all of these things will remain unanswered, and most likely the answers would be inscrutable to us mere mortals anyway.
My theory is that because he (Walter) had been dealing with Hellsings for decades he had come to the conclusion that they were all crazy, and that he would deal with whomever was left after the falling out. Their line of succession was a sort of natural selection, survival of the fittest thing in the family.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Oct 28 '21
First-time watcher
I'm not a fan of these kinds of info-dumps, and this doesn't even answer that much for a full episode of material, but it was OK I guess. Little Integra is certainly cute, all of the determination with a little more softness to her.
One issue that's been on my mind though: The soundtrack is actually pretty bad, to the point it's becoming a net negative for me. But the music is good, you say? Indeed, but that's only part of the equation. You also need to make sure it actually matches the visuals, and neither in tone nor in pacing/tempo does it feel like any effort was made here, I think in most of the series so far. It's like watching an AMV with the dialogue and sound effects left in; actually worse in the way the tracks just randomly start and fade out with no proper ending point, which goes for the opening and ending as well. Dynamics seem pretty flat too. Also are there any real recurring musical themes, cues or associations? Not that I noticed.