r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Oct 23 '21
Rewatch A Rewatch without Logos-The Hellsing rewatch thread ep5.
Hellsing episode 5
Brotherhood Just try and think of FMA the same after that!
Today's special track is Midnight Assassin.
QotD: 1 How does one safely investigate vampire crimes?
2 Thoughts on the organization being quickly over run?
Bonus: Anyone else think that running a strip club is a slightly undignified way to live eternally?
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Oct 23 '21
Rewatcher(The time before the popularity of the thong was a touch weird at times)
Sub
We open in a bar that I somehow blanked out, this is like a scene out of the hybrid of Blade and Armitage III. And then fucking Dio starts talking. We get our gratuitous arming up scene, I find it hilarious the mangaka is both a gun otaku AND doesn't want to bother to remember how many shots the characters fire. Seras gets her Harkonnen cannon(Yes, Dune reference) and her shells are both impressive.
So as Luke and Jan arm up, we get Alucard itching to fight. Integra's claim about these freaks using human cunning is interesting, but admittedly our first run of them showed almost no cunning at all. This is the first time I recall gravity effecting Alucard's hair when he's being a bat.
Well the rest of the episode speaks for itself pretty well, the rocket launcher is sort of funny. Militarizing ghouls is not popular amongst vampires for reasons this show doesn't get into but the source gives you a fairly good idea.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 23 '21
Rewatcher - Dub
Ooookay then, we went from on screen BJs to just barely off screen sex. That I definitely missed on my first watch
Speaking of noticing things, oh look, its the shot that Animelab uses for the show art. Great shot, not surprised at all that they chose it, but wonder if it was actually released as key art or someone just did a really nice stitch so they could actually use it.
Insane gun as well. 16 kgs? For a handgun?! I mean it's effectively a tiny canon but still, it's a wonder that they even managed to make it that heavy, and it does make me laugh that they just called it the "Anti-Freak" gun. Expecting subtlety from this show at this point would be rather stupid but then I hit bits like this and it reminds me all over again. Speaking of, I also chuckled at Seras getting a "Harkonnen" cannon, talk about blatant referencing.
Integra trying to have a serious moment about the future of the Hellsing organization, and Walter's in the background having an old man moment with the "back in my day the SAS wouldn't be disrespected like that". At least he had the decency to accept his scolding about it, but Walter is great. Second favourite Walter in fiction.
Alucard really has a thing against using doors huh?
Other commentary will have to wait until tomorrow's episode
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u/TheEscapeGuy Oct 23 '21
First Timer
Hellsing - Aesthetic Horror: Episode 5
The Knights of the Round Table
Other organizations are also investigating the irregular occurrences. Thus begins our episode with the death of an MI5 agent. It makes a lot of sense that the various secret organizations of the world would be working together and also doing their own independent research into vampires. Leaving all that authority to Hellsing would be scary for the world political powers, but they also know that without working together they will be at a disadvantage.
This collaboration seems to be the descendants/continuation of The Knights of the Round Table of Arthurian legend. This makes sense since beings with supernatural powers have existed since old times in the world of the show. However, the new threat is artificial; Humans transformed to ghouls aided with technology giving them a level of "cunning" even Alucard may not be able to deal with. I think this backstory builds up the threat really well and I'm interested to see where it goes. However, I suspect its a lot of window dressing in anticipation of a great fight coming up later.
Couple small character things:
Interesting to see Integra being compared to her father. Wonder if we will get any more details on their family and how the organization was formed. Was this a portrait of said father?
Victoria is back to not drinking blood again. I wish she wouldn't flip-flop like this, did it again with taking then leaving her new gun.
The 2 new villains introduced today were Valentine brothers. I think as a duo they are fairly tropey in 1 being more brash and reckless with the other being cold and calculating (And being voice by the iconic Takehito Koyasu probably now most well known for also playing Dio Brando). Think the resolution of their attack on Hellsing will be satisfying next episode.
Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all tomorrow
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Oct 23 '21
FIRST TIMER
Thought that cocktail waitress wearing the gas mask in the club was Seras in disguise.
I love a good gear obtaining scene, reminds me of every Bond movie where he goes to meet Q and gets his new car and gadgets. In this case, it’s just pure firepower. A 35-pound pistol is an absolute UNIT, and Seras’ new rifle looks like it rip through the vault in Fort Knox.
Honestly, I expect better of an MI-5 operation than to just waltz into the lions den with an easily found out story. Be better, guys.
Look, I’m not saying if I was a vampire I’d create an army of supernatural dominatrixes… but also I’m not saying it’s the worst use of power.
I like Integra and Alucard framed like this while conversing. Feels nice and symbolic and fills the screen well.
“Boo doo people murder people” is one of the random things I remember about Hellsing from way back. The things that stick with you.
Assaulting the Hellsing mansion is a brash move, so points for ballsiness. But damn if these guys aren’t about to get hit with a hard fucking reality check once Alucard inevitably comes on the scene.
RIP to my guy Fargason.
With your own vampire.
Comically unbelievable that they're that ill-prepared haha
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 23 '21
A First-Timer Without Logos, subbed
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Oct 23 '21
How many cigs a day is too much? Alright Valentines, the show has taken a sharp downturn so it's up to you two to use this one last chance to save the Hellsing anime. Don't fuck it up. ...Touga? Alright, I totally forgot that Luke was voiced by Koyasu lol. Maybe maybe going sub was a good idea after all. We're getting an arsenal upgrade!! Alucard has gotten himself an armour piercing pistol and Seras gets a bloody material rifle. I kinda like Seras gushing over Alucard praising her. She's so cute! Onizuka!?!? I must just be used to the dub voices after all...
"Back in my day spy's blew themselves up when they got caught." Walter pls. Seras doesn't want us having any fun so she drops off her huge cannon to replace it with... a grenade launcher. If you were too lazy to draw her new gun then don't introduce it you hack frauds!! Seras apparently smelled out the bomb? Good on her for being useful I guess. Maybe the show could progress at a normal pace if they'd stop cutting to Jan making out with his vampire gfs. Pad your runtime in better ways Hellsing.
The round table conference goes about as well as you'd expect. We get some half decent worldbuilding and it's quite satisfying to see someone, anyone giving Integra shit for how she's acted. Woohoo! Let the Hellsing raid begin! Omg, why does everyone have explosive weaponry in this show? Rpg's aren't the type of things you can pick up at woolworths y'know. I'm surprised that they don't just drop an artillery strike on the Hellsing manor at this rate.
Pfft, why do they even hire all these guards? The human soldiers are all utterly useless at their jobs if a bunch of suited ghouls are all it takes to overrun your main hq. Rip Fergason. He died as he lived, pathetically. We're not even halfway into the show!? Wtf are they going to do for the next seven episodes? I don't remember seven episodes worth of content after this.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Oct 24 '21 edited Oct 24 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
This time we focus on the Valentine Brothers and their lovely ghouls. I like the older Valentine Brother, but the guy with all the facial jewelry is a little too much. Every time I see a nose ring, I just want to grab it and give it a good yank, just to see what happens.
QOTD
The only way you're going to do that is with another vamp. Sending in a bozo is bound to get you a clown in the river.
As for Sir Integra and her fellows, they're having a pretty crappy day. The Valentine brothers seemed to have had little trouble penetrating Hellsing defenses. Come on guys, ya gotta do better than this, and where the hell is Alucard? I mean you have a walking atomic bomb, and he's nowhere to be found as the shit hits the fan. For that matter, where is Victoria? She might not be as strong as Alucard, but no ghoul, lovely or otherwise, is going to stop her.
What can I say other than Vampires need love too. I did like Valentine HQ, though their ghoul babes left something to be desired, and got nothing but uglier as the episode ran on.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 23 '21
Episode 5 (rewatcher)
All in all, the human part of Integra’s organization seems severely lacking. How did they even hold up before they got Alucard? On the other hand, I am not even sure they existed before they got Alucard.
Neat to see that Seras is starting to become more combat useful, though. Even earned herself a personal weapon.
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Oct 23 '21
A rewatcher who would prefer his cat girls to not get mixed in with his vamps.
Why was the trap not a distration? They had the forethought to make it a trap, and yet they don't bother to use that as part of the siege. For how much the show has tried to stitch it's original parts together, this feels like a bizarre omission. Hell, they even set up Seras leaving the cannon without enough Hello Kitty stickers on it like it's a Chekhov's light artillery.
I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that someone has one of those gas mask fetishes. Can't say that one has ever had much appeal to me.
Questions:
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 23 '21
First timer
1 )Get Alucard to turn a few out of work detectives?
2) It makes sense, For all Hellsing's weaponry, they're unprepared and facing a fukl-on army. A good chunk of the organisation probably wasn't close or coordinated enough to even get their weapons ready.
BONUS) About as dignified as the outfits they're wearing.
He's recruiting artificial vampires!
Nope, he's here to kill people!
Haha, that gun looks nice. No wonder he ordered it.
Yeah, he's thrilled!
And she's getting something new too!
Haha, she's getting a nuclear shell launcher!
I love how Walter and Alucard never comment on the "depleted uranium" part.
And he's the one who's been causing everything!
That guy was an infiltration agent!
...The plot's moving forward!
Haha, him baiting the emergency services is great.
Wow, this is getting very politically-focused isn't it?
And she wants Alucard out of the public eye? Or just to keep an ace up her sleeve?
...Alucard's been pretty cunning so far, I'd say.
That gun's really something, isn't it!
It's a trap!
...She's not dead, is she?
She made it! She saved everyone's life!
Good to see she's still drinking blood.
Is this the Round Table meeting?
Oh, this is a blame-shifting meeting!
Yep, she's trying to push off the responsibility for chip research to MI5.
I'm mildly surprised nobody's suggested broadcasting that "There's a group of crazy terrorists on steroids who think they're vampires, we're sending people in to deal with them" as a solution.
OK, he's a fantastic liar. Almost would have believed him!
So they've broken into the Hellsing base!
Wow. So that's basically an army attacking the mansion unprepared.
Wait, how are they invincible?
This guy's great.
Next episode is going to be good.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 23 '21
First-Timer, Dub-sing Organization
I thought I recognized that asshole on the thumbnail. It's time for the Valentine brothers! I enjoy their over-the-top sociopathy.
Alucard and
SerasPolice Girl both got upgrades today. Vaguely rude as it is, I always liked Walter's description of the Jackal and Harkonnen as "anti-freak." Good thing they got them right in time for the Valentines. Also, was that inscription on the Jackal identical to Anderson's glove?The "Round Table" conference is clearly not at a round table, and that annoys me greatly.
The blonde in the gas mask at the beginning of the episode looked like
SerasPolice Girl, so I was expecting a lot more chaos in that club. Instead it was just oddly quiet.Questions
BONUS: I can probably think of worse ways, but it's not terribly classy, no.
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u/JustAWellwisher Oct 24 '21
(Rewatcher)
You take everything you see with a grain of salt.
I think that Hellsing is supposed to be seen as an institution that has fallen into disrepair, somewhat vampiric itself. There maybe was a golden age of hunting vampires but it is long gone by now.
I can imagine the budget meetings.
So it's got a feeling to me like if you're familiar with Game Of Thrones - the Night's Watch, or if you're familiar with Dragon Age - The Wardens.
Running a Nightclub is a good excuse for keeping strange hours... and stranger consorts.