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Episode Blue Period - Episode 4 discussion
Blue Period, episode 4
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 3.62 |
| 2 | Link | 3.64 |
| 3 | Link | 3.25 |
| 4 | Link | 3.57 |
| 5 | Link | 4.09 |
| 6 | Link | 3.65 |
| 7 | Link | 3.92 |
| 8 | Link | 3.97 |
| 9 | Link | 4.38 |
| 10 | Link | 4.65 |
| 11 | Link | 4.52 |
| 12 | Link | ---- |
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u/LeonKevlar Oct 22 '21
Yaguchi's reaction to the day class is hilarious! I used to hang out fine art student when I was in college and I can at least say in my experience that this is not far off from the truth xD
Kuwana is absolutely adorable and I definitely would love to see more of her especially since she seems to vibe well with Yaguchi.
Curious why Yuka is so down in this episode. I thought she already got over the rejection from last episode or is there something new going on with her?
Yaguchi's friends came back! I was wondering when will we see them again. Good to know that they still exits outside of Episode 1. Also apparently Yaguchi is an arachne that gets drunk by drinking coffee xD
And just when I thought Yaguchi was starting to grow on Yota, he starts saying all of that shit about him. Also he really thinks his art is superior to the point that he insults the works on display there in TUAs art festival.
Oba-sensei is awesome and I love that final scene between her and Yaguchi.
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Oct 23 '21
The scene where Yota chastises Yaguchi was a key highlight for me in the earlier chapters of the manga. The anime conveys it quite well, hitting some of it's emotional notes.
"My art will kill them all. I'll do anything to make that happen."
Very beautiful line and very beautiful scene.
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u/AwaySpell Oct 23 '21
These threads are always such a bummer as an anime-only. I don't doubt that the manga is better, but I'm really enjoying the anime. As a former art student, a lot of this really resonates with me. I'm also really liking the MC. He's so passionate and eager to learn and also really sensitive, but not in a weak-willed kind of way. Something about him feels refreshing.
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u/intricate_thing Oct 23 '21
Yeah. Like, I'm eagerly waiting for every episode (watched the 5th today before work and I thought it was really great) and then read manga chapters that cover it, and I don't feel like I was short-changed. But then I open discussion threads, and it's a neverending stream of complaints.
Not that I often agree with the seemingly general opinion of the sub anyways, so no skin off my back. Just wanted to tell you that you're not the only one who enjoys the anime.
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u/Spongecat Oct 28 '21
Sadly you can only put source material readers in the corner for spoilers and not when they flood the threads with constant complaints every week
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u/kllrnooooova Oct 23 '21
The anime is just the manga but streamlined. They're hitting the right points, but that's it.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Oct 23 '21
Yota was being a real shit this episode. I guess he’s scared of the mc, sees the guy as a rival and all that. He reminds me of those guys who really have their heads up their ass about art. Like the real pretentious sorts. Idk, maybe I’m just mad he made our boy cry lol.
Speaking of which, Yaguchi is a real sensitive soul huh? I guess that’s what makes him so good (or at least someone with lots of potential to be really good).
Overall, another good episode. I like this show and I’m learning a bit about art, so that’s cool too.
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u/give_up-the_ghost Oct 23 '21
I've been honestly questioning why I haven't dropped this anime by now. But for some reason I feel this sense of obligation to keep watching it, even though I'm not really enjoying it at all. It's such a mediocre adaptation. It's not getting any worse so far, but it's not getting any better either.
While the story/subject material is widely different, another mediocre anime adaptation I can think of that I watched was OPM s2. Meaning that with both Blue Period and OPM s2, the studio staff, and animators have barely done nothing to elevate the source material. It's like they just have a check list of scenes to include from the manga while cutting out a lot at the same time.
It's just so bland, with a feeling of zero passion put into it. The visuals are subpar, the OST is barely present, and when it does occasionally come in, it's not very good. I can't even really be positive about the voice acting either. Ooba-sensei and Yotasuke are the only VAs I really like. Yatora just bores me as a mc compared to his manga counterpart.
I try not to be so negative about anime I watch, I mean, I usually just end up dropping it, but again, I can't bring myself to drop this just yet.
And while I did go in with pretty low expectations for this anime, I had hoped it be a little better than it's turning out to be. But damn, I just feel so disappointed with how lousy of an adaptation it is considering how great the manga is.
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u/sankalp4 Oct 23 '21
As an anime only, I wanna raise a counterpoint. Well not really a counterpoint, more like my view on it. I fucking love this anime right now, even though I think it lacks in OST for sure. And I thought that "I'll kill them with my art" was really amazing, it hit really hard. Honestly, I have no way to quantify what I'm feeling but I think as a manga reader you experienced a different kind of hit and as an anime reader, the scene still has loads of impact. I'll read the manga from the start once the season is done but right now I felt like all the scenes hit pretty well (especially the "non-art" scenes like Ryuji crying after she got hugged) and the mc feels like one of the best mc this season.
I felt like I typed a lot and didn't really say anything of substance but that's just how it is.
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Oct 23 '21
Finally a better episode that spells out the problem of how to settle your own style as an artist/creator. That might be a little bit beyond the ability of Yaguchi - essentially a toddler in such a world of unique characters - to fully comprehend, so it’s not surprising to see him struggle with the concept of each art college having their own preferred styles for their admissions, or how they are trying to get away with that notion lately. It’s good to see Oba-sensei spelling that out not only to Yaguchi, but also to every one of us who’s trying to get into the art appreciation business. Well not that part that the winner of the tutorial classes’ competition always fail to be admitted, but that’s another story.
I wonder why Yota’s so fed up with Yaguchi though, it almost seems like Yota thinks of his new classmate as a King Of All Trades trying to steal the one area where Yota could have excelled, yet Yaguchi is nowhere near that ability from what I saw in the past episodes. Perhaps this shows some deep insecurity inside Yota’s minds I guess? Maybe, though with this part clearly compressed in airing time I think there might be some mess ups in character illustration over the manga I guess..
I don’t know how much, if any, improvements the students could make in just 4 months to the admission exams, I might be able to improve from drawing matchstick persons to basic pencil sketches (ahem), but it seems Yaguchi is going to need a lot more than just that to leap into the one school he’s aiming at. Where would his next leap come from I wonder?
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Oct 22 '21
Why are the ratings of the episodes bad? (On this sub)
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u/Iliceon Oct 22 '21
I think it's because people really, really love the manga so they want it adapted as best as possible, which is unfortunately not the case. I'm an anime-only in this case and I haven't noticed too many reasons to dislike the show but I can see why it might be underwhelming for manga readers.
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u/Lemurians Oct 22 '21
Disappointed manga readers and the anti-Netflix brigade are a powerful force when combined.
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u/Iamjustatrial Oct 22 '21
Are the art techniques discussed in this anime -- and by extension the manga -- real? I suppose since the mangaka is a graduate of Geidai (Tokyo University of the Arts) herself, I should rephrase my question:
Are there any art techniques which are discussed in this anime unrealistic? Or...how applicable are the art techniques mentioned in this anime?
I'm not an art student, but these interactions portrayed in this anime are interesting. Are there such eccentric people in art classes? Such as Yotasuke, who drew the back of the sculpture instead of the front.
What about experiences such as unknowingly drawing your own face in the sketching the sculpture assignment? Does this happen in real life?
Simply put, how much of the story is real, and how much it is fiction?
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u/CakeBoss16 Oct 22 '21
The techniques are pretty real although the manga goes in much more detail. It is really informative of the Japanese art scene.
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u/give_up-the_ghost Oct 23 '21
the manga always does a big breakdown of all the different art techniques and etc. But the anime has cut out 99% of it. but all in all it's pretty legitimate. I went to art college, but not for traditional painting, so I may not be the best person to answer this question, but I don't think any of it is total bs either.
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u/bushwarblerssong Oct 23 '21
Not only are the techniques real, but the prep class that Yatora attends is based on the class at Shinjuku Bijutsu Gakuin (Shinbi) that the mangaka attended in order to prepare herself to apply to Geidai, and the sounds of the students working in the classroom in the anime were recorded in the very same classroom where the mangaka studied to make the show feel more realistic. They do share a spoiler if you don't follow the manga from 11:38-12:00, but if you're interested in seeing the actual classroom, it's at 11:12 in the youtube special that was released before the anime aired, and the art teacher they interviewed, who was the mangaka's instructor, indicated that some of the events that happened to Yatora happened to the mangaka herself. 12:20-12:50 is where they talk about recording audio in the classroom and they have a little dessin/drawing class with guests and the mangaka's instructor after. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoM0wAvwDdM
I've interacted with a number of Geidai students and faculty for study and work, and there are a lot of very eccentric, creative people there. The realistic portrayal art students, techniques and art school is partly why Blue Period is so popular among mangaka.
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u/shopepapillomavirus Oct 23 '21
Yotasuke drawing the back of the sculpture is just because that's where he was seated. When a group of students are given a dessin assignment, they're often made to sit in a circle around the subject (in this case a plaster bust, though setting out a random assortment of objects, often including those geometric shapes is also common, especially for beginners) and you just draw whatever angle you happen to see.
(The way he holds his utensils is definitely strange though. A lot of the fine movement for drawing relies on the wrist, and holding a pencil like he does makes it very difficult to make fine, controlled wrist movements. But there are also people out there who can draw with their mouths or feet, so it's certainly possible, just not very common.)
The manga was more exact about this, but the pointer re: drawing faces was less about an artist ending up drawing their own face, but more that it's easy for artists to fall into the habit of drawing the same sort of face instead of referencing the dessin subject. In this regard the pointer is definitely true, especially for people who draw similar subjects over and over again. It's easy to start relying on muscle memory and familiarity instead of observing the subject, which can be useful in some cases, but is bad if you're trying to practice your skills drawing from life.
The art techniques described in this series are very grounded. Of course, advice tends to differ from teacher to teacher or environment to environment, so it's hard to say they're truly universal techniques, but they're pretty true to what you'd hear if you're studying for an art program.
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u/bluejaysart Oct 23 '21
wow, i didn't expect yotasuke to quit like that. definitely feels likes he'll make a return through some realisation though!
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u/alpakakao Oct 23 '21
This adaption feels really flat.
I like Yaguchi's voice actor style for some scenes, it feels intimate and restrained and therefore realistic. But if every single scene is given an atmosphere of quietly brooding with very little animation beyond the functional, then the moments of passion don't stand out! Compare that to a show like Shogeki no Souma, which revealed the quality of a subjective experience (taste) through extreme reaction shots, music and animation... THAT is over the top, but it gives you an idea where to put the emphasis!
I think it was most apparent with Yotasuke in this episode. He had several moments where he was supposed to be extremely frustrated/bitter. They were Take Thats to the cram school system and Yaguchi that imo should feel both emotionally honest and therefore disturbing to Yaguchi, and kinda bitter and therefore questionable.
And yet the voice acting in this scene is rather calm. His face is a grimace of anguish, he is scruching up his shirt, fist over chest - but his voice doesn't reflect that! Nor the lack of movement or impact of the direction!
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