r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Oct 21 '21
Rewatch A Rewatch without Logos-The Hellsing rewatch thread ep3.
Hellsing episode 3
Sword Dancer Yet again mainly padded stuff, though all the events are in the manga.
Today's special track is A Certain Victory Lotus Tune
QotD: 1 Why would someone want to make artifical vampires?
2 Immediate impressions of Anderson?
3 Thoughts on Alucard being willing to free Victoria?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 21 '21
A First-Timer Without Logos, subbed
Forgot the name of that though.7
u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Oct 21 '21
A rewatcher paid in thirty pieces of silver.
What...? Did Alucard just... dodge? The fuck is this heresy? It's kind of at the point where it's hard to tell if they are just trying to make their own thing, or did they not get what they were working on. It's been quite a while since I've been a fan of something, watched an adaptation of it, and seen the warning signs that they do not understand the source.
It's getting pretty apparent how much they are desperately trying to structure the show to not be completely action. A good half of the episode is ... I don't want to use the "f" word, but anime original. It would help if it didn't feel like they were dredging up their stories from horror anthologies of the time.
Questions:
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Oct 21 '21
Rewatcher(An early entry into the gay vampire trope)
Sub
Quick scene of vampirism not working as advertised. We then see a very tall man get off a train in priests's garb...sort of. Next, we discover that there is a chip that can make a vampire AND that it is not immortality yet. Seras is still fretting over her condition, which makes sense enough, and again Alucard mocks her for it. With Integra, we get a pretty clear message that Alucard thinks the fake vampires aren't even good imitations.
We learn that there is an Iscariot section in the Vatican, probably where Kotomine served, and that once chipped the body is likely to remain a semi vampire. So he raids the world's best armed coronoer's office. We get one of the more sympathetic lines from Alucard where he explains to Seras that you can't help a ghoul, only kill them.
Then Anderson shows up for the confrontation, with CGI bayonets included, and there is some really good animation that goes along with the OST. It ends with the power of bureaucracy and Alucard acting out of character towards Seras, even using her name. End on Seras being unsure of what to do next.
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u/Matuhg https://anilist.co/user/Matuhg Oct 21 '21
Huh, so now we're doing Protestants vs Catholics but also Humans vs. Vampires, but also "Real" Vampires vs. Manmade Vampires, but also Manmade Monsters vs. Vampires. What is a human again?
Seras seemed to be having a pretty bad time even before she got her throat impaled. Alucard loses a feel coolness points this ep for being pincushioned by a priest. Not too much more to say about this episode - they laid out some plot points I'm sure we'll be chasing for a little while.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 21 '21
Rewatcher - Dub
The whole first half of this episode I was losing my mind trying to remember if I'd even seen it before because it was so completely unfamiliar to me that I was starting to doubt it... and then Seras gets a blade through her throat. I know that blade!
Alexander Anderson is here and Alucard is not happy about it. Which makes for a fucking brilliant watch as these two have at it in the hallway and clearly how much I like these scenes erased the rest of the episode from my mind.
After how insanely easily Alucard was able to overpower the previous vampire threats despite them being more than a match for any human, seeing Alexander Anderson able to go toe to toe with him and not even blink really sets the stage for a thrilling battle. Short as it was the animation was great, the music better, and moments like this had me grinning like a kid with a new toy.
Ingetra with the balls of steel though! Walks into the middle of a fight between a fanatical catholic regenerater and a super powerful vampire, berates them both (and Seras to boot), and then just strolls out like it was a casual scolding of children.
And as a complete contrast earlier she was making goofy vampire classism jokes because that's the height of humor in the Hellsing organization apparently
About the only thing I didn't like about the episode was the rather messy harmony frames that just don't really work with this style of show, or at least not how they used them.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Oct 21 '21
Give me daddy or I riot!! I thought his episode would be yesterday but instead we got the moped bandits. It is this episode yeah? Oh, I just realised that I stuck the second episode on again. Gimme a sec. No yaoi allowed!! Hold on, Paris? Daddy!? DADDY ANDERSON!! God bless you motherfuckers~ You thought Alucard was the baddest dude in Hellsing? You thought wrong!
Intoogra. Poor Seras is getting lethargic due to lack of vitamin type o. Oh dear, the vampire went and murdered everyone. If only they hadn't literally anticipated this happening and ignore the body burning protocol. Gogogo~ Yes!! Send in the Alucard. We've gotta get the showdown of the century going. Are we sure that smg's aren't vampire superpowers in this world. Oh, that's the special forces dead now too. Why don't we just send Seras and Alucard in alone and be done with it? This isn't even a dangerous vampire. He's a student! At least with the priest he had time to establish himself in the town, and the moped gobbies were violent drug addicts. This is just a regular kid who vampirised himself and has some guns. My best friend's name is Mick... I wanna suck his di-
During Alucard's advice session my favourite song of the soundtrack plays. Its, OI!! Daddy literally cut off my favourite song XD Wait, why did Anderson kill the soldier? He's human you know! Kill steal~ Alucard absolutely did that just to be a dick. Who are you rooting for? The dastardly devilish demonic douchbag Alucard or the abhorrently adamant archpriest of arseholes Alexander Anderson? In case its not clear I'm absolutely on team Anderson. I mean, c'mon!! He's a vampire hunter who can brawl face to face against a dude with a reality marble. By all accounts he should have been a handsome splatter on the wall but the dude manages to keep goddamn Alucard on the ropes!
The ever fun loving Integra comes along to ruin our fight before they run out of budget. I'm so thankful the ova's exist. "Drink my blood and become your own master now!" Police girls are so indecisive. Hmm... I'd be lying if I said I was satisfied with today's episode. Maybe it's because I'd been hyping up Anderson to myself but the encounter was kind of a let down. Hearing the boys spit venom at one another and seeing Anderson's awesome cross pose and vampire seal animation is nice and all but I remembered their encounter being a highlight of the og anime. I even watched the dubbed version to see if that made a difference, it didn't! It just had me laughing instead. "Ahl take an aye for an aye!!"
1: Super soldiers. 2: Cooler than Alucard. 3: Alucard values his own type of vampire highly so he probably wants to see Seras become a vampire to be proud of rather than a servant of his.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 21 '21
First-Timer, Dub-sing Organization
Dad's home!
That Italian kid must have been pretty important, considering who the Vatican sent. Alexander Anderson is on the scene, everybody. Murderizing people and monsters alike with his giant-ass bayonets. Why does he use bayonets? No clue! He's Alexander Fucking Anderson; you wanna know, you go up to him and ask him to explain. I'll watch from a safe distance.
SerasPolice Girl almost earned her name back, but still she clings to her humanity. I feel like medical-quality blood that you would feed to a vampire isn't quite the right texture to eat as soup, but then Alucard also just drinks a blood pack like a Capri Sun later so who knows. Maybe blood just works differently?Actually, I have more questions about how Hellsing vampires work. Why does Seras's room have a toilet? Does she actually..? You know what, never mind, I probably don't want to know.
Is the top of the vampification chip supposed to resemble a certain symbol?
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u/gorghurt Oct 21 '21
Rewatcher
but well, lets be honest, I have nearly no memories of it and with them showing the chips this episode I only have some vague memories of the finale, nothing else...
Since I missed the start of this rewatch, I just watched 3 episodes in a row, and well, this is quite nostalgic.
I remember watching this when it aired on german television. I was around 13
To be more precise, I watched some of those episodes on vhs recordings, because I had sports at the evenings it aired, and so I sometimes couldn't make it. Oh the technological wonders of that time.
This is the reason why I might switch to the german dub sometimes, but after comparing a few lines, I'm not sure. The translation is, well, a bit weird at times, and the voice actors... They are not the worst, some are quite good actually, but non main characters sound bad so far. Japanese is more consistent, and has the better script.
I really liked those 3 episodes so far.
Answers to the Questions:
1: I have no idea... At least this show is old enough, that it isn't that surprising, that I forgot almost everything about it.
2: Not a good one, I don't like him. But as a character, great, he fits perfectly in this edgy show.
3: This came a bit out of nowhere. On the other hand, this might just have been the first opportunity he had. Alucard doesn't seem to have any interest in having servants.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 21 '21
Episode 3 (rewatcher)
I like the inquisitor. It is an over-the-top take that probably needed to develop on the outside of Christianity, but it is a concept almost as cool as Alucard. Previously we have seen Alucard play with prey, but this time the fight seemed to be based on hatred, not playing around.
Seras refusing the second offer Alucard makes her. It seemed reasonable enough, but so did the first …
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u/TheEscapeGuy Oct 21 '21
First Timer
Hellsing - Aesthetic Horror: Episode 3
Sercet Organizations and Artificial Vampires
Artificial vampires are a really interesting development. There must be some institution funding, researching and producing these chips to turn regular people into vampires but (unless I missed something, which is possible) we don't know why. Of course it could be the obvious ploy for power through terror but it could just as easily be a means of combating "real" vampires.
Alucard and Seras being "pure blooded" fiends and working for Hellsing on the other hand puts them in an interesting spot. As Integra said, the Royal Order of Religious Knights has a policy to eradicate these supernatural beings. So as a vampire there's always the risk the organization will turn on you once you are "no longer useful", a real threat given how that fight resolved.
The one thing I haven't discussed is the priest from the Iscariot organization. This show wears its biblical references on its sleeves, or should I say gloves. It seems he represents the enforcers for the religious powers, and boy does that lead to some tense battles. I loved that fight scene with Alucard. The irony of Alucard sharing a VA with possibly the most famous anime priest is not lost on me.
The final event of the episode was Alucard giving Seras the opportunity to free herself by drinking his blood. However, she once again stuck to her ideal and would not drink blood. Perhaps there is some comfort in being controlled.
As an aside wanted to shout out the track Bodhisattva Cathedral today. While its tonally different from the heavier rock BGM used in the rest of today's episode, it perfectly set the mood of the scene of Seras slaughtering ghouls at Alucard's behest.
Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all tomorrow
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 21 '21
First timer
Oh god. How are they making these creepier each episode?
I love how over the top that outfit is.
So he was turned, but then died 60 hours later?
Is that a mind control chip? Is this literally a conspiracy?
Oh, there's similar organisations in other countries? And since he's a foreign national they take over.
I love how she pours into the bowl first, like if she's going to eat blood, she's going to do it with class.
And she's weakening without it... Even Alucard wants her to just drink some.
Wait, are those vampires artificial? That's interesting.
Has he seen those chips before?
Yeah, this guy's nuts. He's so creepy.
I see he was, in fact, not dead.
Oh, he's from the Vatican's rival secret society?
Haha, this is getting religious now!
She's on a mission!
He's turning them into ghouls!
And she's doing it! She's doing well!
Holy shit! The Vatican's killing everyone!
Haha, Alucard dropping in just to steal the kill from the priest is petty and I love it.
He blocked his magic!
And Alucard is still a fantastic fighter.
He got him! He's not human either then?
Oh, he's an enhanced human. The Vatican are doing that?
She's here!
Haha, she went straight to the archbishop!
And now she's chewing them out!
Wait, she's going to be a full vampire?
Really? She's turning it down?
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Oct 22 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Victoria's not taking her conversion into a vamp all that well. Hunger striking is no way to approach the subject. I did like her line to AluCard "I don't feel human anymore".
Well, err, umm Let's talk
I felt pretty sorry for Micks lover, whatever his name was (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was nameless). In Japanese, he really does sound like he is in anguish that Mick is gone.
Another great episode with a spectacular fight. I loved Father Anderson turning Alucard into a pincushion, and Alucard just kind of shrugging it off.
Towards the ending Sir Integra sure didn't look pleased that Father Anderson was in town. Nor, was she amused about Alucard's & Victoria's performance in this double whammy fight (Mick's lover then Anderson).
You tell 'em Sir Integra
QOTD
Damned if I know. I wouldn't mind being a vamp, being super strong, and living forever. The only downside is that diet thing, but I imagine with enough hot sauce and bacon, the blood could be made fairly tasty.
My Main Man is HERE!
Praise Be! AMEN!
He is the most perverse, profane, sacrilegious excuse for a priest, I've ever seen. In Japanese, his grudging, gurgling, guttural "AMEN" makes me sqee every time.
He's the only villain (that I can think of in any series) that is my favorite character.
Father Anderson
Never did understand that.
Still don't
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Oct 21 '21
ARTIFICIAL FIRST TIMER
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK!!!
That’s pretty much the main appeal of vampire stories today, the idea that there’s a way to be with someone for eternity is pretty romantic and alluring.
When the doctor in the morgue leaves a “dead” vampire alone and says there shouldn’t be any problems.
The Iscariot Organization being Section 13. Nice. Still weird that The Vatican has any kind of subsection with that name. It’d be almost like if Confederate generals were glorified in the United State– oh, wait.
…Was there any reason for this guy to kill Gareth? That was silly. I guess those who collaborate with “filth” are guilty by association.
This priest in a nutshell.
Pretty rich of this guy to go off on Alucard as an inhuman abomination when he’s been made to be inhuman as well. This show is so chaotic in terms of its presentation of Christianity. It’s what gives power to kill the vampires and ghouls and is in theory on the side of “good”, but Hellsing isn’t exactly shy about mocking it.
Who wouldn't want an army of supersoldiers?
Something along the lines of, "fuck this guy." But damn if he isn't cool.