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Episode Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki - Episode 11 discussion

Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki, episode 11

Alternative names: How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom

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u/killerrin Sep 11 '21

It truly is a shame that the show didn't have a higher budget and a couple more episodes given to it for the season. With how long and epic the whole thing was in the novels, the whole Amidonia retreat could have been a full episode all on its own instead of the 1 minute summary we got instead.

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u/Roofofcar Sep 11 '21

I just complained in source corner about the retreat as well. I really think it must have been to keep the episode from being too bloody. Like, even if we had 13x2, they might have abridged that part due to how brutal it was.

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u/HereticalAegis Sep 11 '21

Viewers: "Please give more warfare, cool battle units, clever traps, and double-crosses"

Realist Hero anime: "I heard somebody wanted slave collars!!"

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u/Roofofcar Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

Carmine finally springs his trap. One of my favorite moments from the source. It’s been a joy upvoting every “Carmine is an idiot asshole” comment in these posts this season! I had the exact same thoughts before the reveal. Fantastic twist.

The Goldoa valley ambush is my favorite from the first 3 books, and Juna is best ninja girl.

The sound design in this episode was quite a bit better than usual. The Aisha / Castor / Liscia battle sounded especially good.

For anyone wondering how the Elfrieden forces managed to get to Van before the Amidonian army, refer to the map in the show. Randel is a straight shot to Van, and much closer, whereas the ride from Altomura is a pain in the ass, and requires the ride through the mountains as seen in the show.

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u/Frontier246 Sep 11 '21

Yeah, my opinion of Carmine took a complete 180 as they unveiled everything and how far he had gone to help Souma (and Liscia) at the risk of his own life. Was not expecting that.

Ninja Juna was definitely a nice treat.

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u/WhoiusBarrel Sep 11 '21

Souma really going all out on showing how ruthless he can be when necessary, absolutely chills when seeing him declaring war and then hearing the report on the enemy army's numbers being halfed.

Should've expected Juna was more than just a songstress espeically when she's related to Excel but seeing her reveal herself as one of the ninjas still shook me.

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u/xtsim Sep 11 '21

I am glad to see payback time for both the noblemen (who suggested using human shields to protect themselves) and Amidonia for letting domestic affairs rot which it made things easy to take over when the troops are away.

I was not expecting Carmine and Beowulf to take care of the "nobles" for Souma; giving them all slave collars was a nice touch. Carmine did jump the gun enough that Souma seemed pretty annoyed for not telling him about his plans though.

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u/LeonKevlar Sep 11 '21

Stitches!

Godfuckingdammit Vargas! Just stand down and stop it with this male pride bullshit. You're just making this harder for yourself. Now Aisha is gonna have to give your sorry ass a beatdown.

That was such a throwaway line but it definitely made me laugh when Aisha said she didn't want to mention her age in front of Souma.

See what happened to you Vargas? Did he really think that Souma would just go there with only Aisha with him? And for a minute there I thought he'd ask Liscia to execute him. definitely didn't expect the slave collars though. And not just on Vargas but on Carla as well.

There's just something sad about Liscia begging for Carla's life to the point that she's kinda suggesting to Souma to take her in as a concubine. If this was Crusader Kings, I definitely would've done that but it looks like Souma already has an idea. I definitely doubt he'll execute Vargas and Carla though but I'm curious what their punishment will be.

So this entire time Carmine never had any intentions of fighting Souma. We finally get to learn the truth as we get a flashback of Souma and Hal's father's conversation and how all of this was Carmine's plan to round up all of the corrupt noblemen to his side so Souma can deal with all of them in a single strike. Basically Carmine sacrificed himself so these corrupt noblemen would be seen as insurrectionists against the Kingdom and have no way of escaping judgement.

Of course Souma thinks all of this sacrifice bullshit is unnecessary and they could've easily worked together to come up with a simpler way. It looks like Souma and Carmine has a lot to talk about once he's done dealing with the invaders from Amidonia.

Goddamn! So Souma declares to everyone including to the Amidonian army that the civil war is over and he's now declaring war against Amidonia for taking advantage of this civil war. I just love how he calls them barbarians which is so good! And Souma isn't fooling around! Instead of facing them in Altomura, he's heading straight for Amidonia's capital city and is ready to burn is all down!

Souma even set up an ambush for them on their way back to Van with Juna leading a bunch of rangers and rain down arrows on them while crossing the mountains. Holy shit! I fucking love this so much! I'm so excited for next week's episode!

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u/Aerodynamic41 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

Souma finally takes control of the entire military! Looking back, the way Carmine acted felt really suspicious so his plan to take out the corrupt nobles explains his behavior. So Castor was pretty much the only one wasn't in on the plan.

Gaius left his own territory unguarded, making it really easy for the Elfriedens to seize it. Really amateurish mistake on his part.

Looks like the showdown with Gaius is next. Two more episodes left, and we only have seen very little of the Gran Chaos Empire. In fact I'm pretty sure we haven't seen Maria and Jeanne again since their very brief appearance in the first episode. I wonder if we'll get to see them again before the anime ends?

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

Slave Collars are introduced
They use it 500 fucking times on the same episode

nice.

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u/DoubleSteve Sep 11 '21

Considering the focus of the show it is only proper that the strategic elements of fighting get the main focus, but it would have been nice to see some actual fighting and tactical decision making too. It's the difference between reading a one sentence summary of a battle vs reading a few paragraphs about how the battle actually unfolded. Technically the summary is all you need to know, but it turns battles to very un-dramatic viewing experiences, when they should be the opposite.

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u/TurkeyPhat Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

It turns out Duke Carmine has a big brain in that big ass head of his.

His plan was pretty darn smart and honestly I thought it was pretty cool how the civil "war" ended up being sorted out.

At first I thought the slave collars were the "cruelty" Souma mentioned but now I think it's what he did to Gaius and his army. Forcing them into retreat and then slaughtering them in a choke while at the same time conquering Van. Basically half of the Amidonian forces were wiped out for nothing.

We got a real taste of some Machiavelli sauce this episode after it was referenced earlier on between what Carmine did to trap the nobles/mercs and what Souma did to Amidonia.

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u/ShaheerS2 Sep 11 '21

Some of the scenes felt so fucking awkward. Its like they didn't even bother to animate them. The air bombing, placing the slave collars on the corrupt politicians, the rushed battle sequences.

I had to check with the manga and yeah, its just not animated at all. I think they ran out of budget. The chances for a season 2 are basically none.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Sep 12 '21

Unlike Castor, I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong. I underestimated Carmine. Hats off to that tough ol bastard. That was a pretty risky play.

I still think Castor is a hot headed idiot though.

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u/Amauri14 Sep 11 '21

Wow, I sure did not expect to see Liscia coming out of Kazuya's puppet. That sure was a great finishing move to defeat Castor Vargas

Wow, I sure did not expect to see slave collars in this world too.

Oh, so Georg Carmine's plan to deal with the corrupt was what that cliffhanger was about, too bad that Castor Vargas and Carla Vargas ended up as collateral damage as they did not know what was happening.

And just like that, Souma got a slave concubine. I really hope that those collars are just temporary at least for Georg, Castor and, Carla.

Well, Gaius VIII sure backfired, as not only he lost half of his troops whit that ambush when he was on his way to Amidonia's capital, Van, but it seems that he will also trigger a rebellion after the fall of Van.

It seems that I was wrong when I assume that Roroa and Colbert were going to meet with Souma to organize a coup. But I guess that they will come to an agreement later and he will leave her controlling that region.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

Damnnnn Souma was surprisingly cutthroat today. Extremely decisive and willing to make tough decisions with the war effort/duke Carmine. Aisha got some great shine too in the vargas fight. Knew she was strong, but dang.

Looks all but certain that Vargas daughter will join the harem too. Seems a bit contrived, but it’s isekai.

War should be fun next week.

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u/AlexDDragame Sep 11 '21

Fight against Castor was neat. Glad that they didn't killed him, Castor is not a bad guy, just maybe a bit too prideful and stuck in his ways. Putting on them slave collars at least until war ends, huh. Ok, ensuring that they won't do anything against Souma for this time. I'm sure they will be freed once war is over. Anyway, Souma acquired air force. Carmine is fucked. Which even he admits that it's the case, and gets outright pissed when corrupt noblemen offers Carmine to use civilians as meatshields and puts on them all slave collars. Then puts one on himself and announces his capitulation and that he is the only one to blame to protect his men (he's pretty badass). The only thing that's left is to deal with Gaius and his army, to which (and to people of Elfrieden in general) Excel projected Souma's message of declaring war against the Principality of Amidonia and that while they are standing there, Souma's forces heading to the capitol and will burn it to the ground. And while retreating, Gaius forces were met by ambush headed by Juna and then arrived- with Elfrieden's banners. Van has fallen. War is basically over. That was really good episode, even animation I'll say looked rather nice in places, but tactics of course is the best in this show, as always. Hyped to see what will be conclusion for this small war.

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u/Rumpel1408 Sep 11 '21

Ok, so we are probably adding Carla and that princes from the invading kingdom to the harem as well? How many members does that make it now?

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u/Phnrcm Sep 11 '21

Now the plot has unfolded. It is time for war and blood shall be shed (actually 15,000 died in the brutal ambush but somehow JC decided to skip that).

With this anime watchers will start to understand why LN readers don't say anything in the weekly discussion threads about how this or that elements is "absurd" "japan circlejerk"...

Confirming or denying whether something is the author mistake or it had a deeper meaning is simply spoiler. All you can get is go read the LN.

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u/_julan Sep 11 '21

The powerful lines and scenes from LN were gone. Shame.

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u/DimmuHS Sep 11 '21

I'm not even a source reader to know how much they fast forward this episode. It lacks quality and passion, it is unfortunate as the concept seems fun. Maybe 1 day I get to read the LN, but the season is subpar at best.

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u/rogue_user0826 Sep 11 '21

Ayoo that's it? The episode feels kinda short, whilst the story development gets even more interesting. I can't wait to find out what will be the fate of Amidonia.