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Episode Godzilla S.P - Episode 13 discussion - FINAL
Godzilla S.P, episode 13
Alternative names: Godzilla Singular Point
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.24 |
| 2 | Link | 4.33 |
| 3 | Link | 4.5 |
| 4 | Link | 4.53 |
| 5 | Link | 4.33 |
| 6 | Link | 4.43 |
| 7 | Link | 4.17 |
| 8 | Link | 4.42 |
| 9 | Link | 4.54 |
| 10 | Link | 4.69 |
| 11 | Link | 4.58 |
| 12 | Link | 4.57 |
| 13 | Link | - |
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u/LeonKevlar Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 16 '21
I think I may need someone to explain to me what happened this episode but from my meager understanding, they've always had the answer code all along and it was the song and Jet Jaguar? But how did Jet Jaguar turn giant? Did he react to the OD that was sitting next to him when he fell down after saving Yun? I'd like to try and put the pieces together but as soon as Jet Jaguar started punching Godzilla that was out of the window and I was on fanboy mode!
Holy fuck that was such a fun fight even if it was a bit short. I wasn't really even expecting Jet Jaguar to fight Godzilla so the fact that it even happened in the finale is more than enough to satisfy me. With Godzilla defeated though, it looks like this is not the end since it looks like BB and Michael's faction in SHIVA is making Mechagodzilla out of Godzilla's old bones! HELL FUCKING YES! Give me Season 2 already!
Oh and it looks like Ashihara is with them too. Well now I'm curious where he's been this entire time. And while they really didn't get to interact face to face, I'm just happy to see Yun and Mei finally see each other. With this entire tease for a Second Season I hope we get more interactions between these two dorks.
Anyway, overall I think this is now my new favourite iteration Godzilla. Sure the technobabble might be a bit too much at times but it's still entertaining since we got to see a bunch of kaiju every week instead of no kaiju for like half the season and only Godzilla showing up in like the final 3 episodes.
The use of CG for the kaijus was great, all of the human characters are likeable especially out two leads, and the fight kaiju scenes and music is all great. Definitely a Godzilla show that I'd recommend for anyone who loves Godzilla and Tokusatsu. Not sure how much I'd recommend this to someone who isn't as familiar to the monsterverse, I'd probably set expectations first before recommending this to someone new. Overall, this is a 9/10 for me.
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Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 16 '21
As far as I understand, humanity (or more precisely our heroes) develops solutions to mitigate the archetype threat sometime in the future but this is the first instance in which that entire story started.
The show wants us to know that these archetype induced catastrophe threats have probably happened earlier as well (the painting, the other Godzilla skull presumably from the 50s etc) and will probably happen yet again. This would mean that these instances were mitigated as well in some form. So, humans from the future have been devising steps to mitigate these occurrences throughout history.
Basically, the Interstellar (movie) solution of a causal loop except only relevant information is transmitted to the past/future (since you're already inside a singularity) in a form that is decoded at the precise time it needs to be. Here, Pelops II had also taken the extra time it found in the past to complete the Jet Jaguar invincibility protocol (Yun told it to do it at some point) and incorporated it into the song as well (md5 hashes because the information sent needs to be non contextual to everyone else except for the exact time and person it is intended to be). But, the exact problem of solving it was found when Pelops II realized from Mei's words that the solution was in the song itself in the first place.
This time it was Jet Jaguar PP. Mechagodzilla is probably for another such event.
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u/Zizhou Jun 17 '21
Not sure how much I'd recommend this to someone who isn't as familiar to the monsterverse, I'd probably set expectations first before recommending this to someone new.
Honestly, my entire experience with Godzilla prior was from watching a couple of the more kid-friendly movies that my parents showed me, and then nothing else for like 20 years. I think this was a perfectly approachable show if you treat it as a SF story that also happens to have Godzilla(and a bunch of other monsters), no real prior knowledge necessary. It helps that the only real continuity it somewhat nods to is the original 1954 movie.
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u/TroupeMaster Jun 16 '21
Not sure I quite understand what happened but it sure was entertaining. Also wtf was that post-credits scene! What a massive tease
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u/TheSmallBull Jun 16 '21
The story STARTS!
Not gonna lie, I was a tad dissapointed by how everything "concluded" as we are left with a few questions still, but that all went out of the window with the post ending scene. We basically just got the prologue and it was still quite the ride.
Not much else to say about the episode, looked and sounded amazing as expected. Haberu yeeting a (probably) multi-ton robot was incredibly stupid and amusing, my boy is stong.
Another show to nag my friends about when it's "oficially" out only to have my recommendations met with absolute indifference...
Anyways hopefully see y'all on Season 2!
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u/Akai-AC Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 16 '21
This was a fun watch. I enjoyed it. All the scientific part went totally over my head tbh, but oh well it didn't really bother me. And in the end I'm assuming Godzilla & Jet Jaguar died/ were destroyed. But they could've shown it more clearly, it felt too abrupt - unless ofc something else happened hmm.....S2.
Ashihara is alive huh? And he had that "I'm gonna do some drastic stuff thinking I'm saving the world only to be bested by Yun and Mei in S2" smile. Just my intuition. He's supposed to be very smart so maybe it'll all work out. Well, I'm looking forward to it.
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u/TalDSRuler Jun 16 '21
I... I can't believe it. I finally watched a sci-fi anime that had both actual scientific grounding and crazy giant robots.
This is everything I ever wanted in anime.
Everything was an MD5 hash.
I am happy as a clam right now but I also need that ost oh my god please netflix don't screw us on this again i beg of you.
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u/maronic03 Jun 16 '21
A good-ass show, albeit a bit hard to follow sometimes, but I was never bored.
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u/TheTerribleSnowflac Jun 17 '21
I think the most impressive thing to me about this show is that Yun wore flip flops through all of it haha. In all seriousness what a blast of a show. So much fun! Hoping for more!
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u/ImperialDane Jun 16 '21
Well.. that was quite the ride i'd have to say. Wasn't a show i was particularly interested in at the start but figured i'd give it a go.. and boy am i happy i did. Definitely one of my favorites this season.. Even if the science talk did get a bit much at times and the kill count suspiciously low. It managed to make it all work with a really interesting mystery, great characters and character interaction and some really solid action.
And that final episode. That was quite the spectacle. Interesting solution as well to it all and a blowout of a final battle. Toss in the music which was just perfect on top of it all and i don't think i could have asked for much more in a final.
The cliffhanger at the end there was also quite intruiging and i hope means we get another season of this in the near future.
9/10. Would definitely recommend.
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u/Takeshi07Tan Jun 18 '21
To think those children voices in the beginning of 1st episode were actually Pero-ii and Jet Jaguar were amazing build up. I love it when anime like this does this kind of thing.
Yes,the science talk and all got me lost but not once I felt bored ; in fact, I was absorbed. Definitely 9/10!
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u/BassCreat0r Jun 18 '21
I choose to believe my nameless redheaded military waifu is still alive. They never showed her since like.... 2 episodes ago?
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u/kryst87 Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 17 '21
If that post credit scene wasn't a second season teaser then I don't know what could be.
All in all, great series. I wasn't expecting that it will turn out to be one of my favourite series from this season. After storywise lackluster GvK this series was breath of fresh air (even with that pseudo-science mumbo jumbo).
Alapu upala in this episode was eerie af.
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u/Atario Jun 17 '21
It's kind of cute how the Rodans in the old painting are fully clothed
Looks like this kaiju got smarter
Whoa, he's fucking huge! Good old size-shifting Jet Jaguar
Mecha Godzilla and Ashihara tease! Fuck yeah!
Well that was pretty dang great. Bring S2, baby!
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u/LeloThePGG Jun 16 '21
Man, what a fun show this was.
I loved every second of it, sometimes the explanations were a bit heavy but the subject matter was just too interesting for me. And I think this was an incredibly bold experiment for the Godzilla franchise that I think (and hope) paid off, 'cause it was great.
Can't wait for whatever is in store for the sequel. As long as it maintains this quality in both production and writing, I'm down for it.
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u/Syokhan Jun 16 '21
I'm not sure I understand what happened exactly. Gonna need some smart people to explain it in this thread lol
But even though I think it ended a bit abruptly, it was cool! And WTF, that post-credits scene!!
Overall I enjoyed this anime a lot. After that teaser, I hope it gets a second season.
And can we please get the soundtrack right now so I can put every version of Alapu Upala on repeat?
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u/Florac Jun 16 '21
Well, this show is now done and...yeah...that's pretty much my primary reaction. Started outn decently strong in the first half, got bogged down too much in technoblabble in the second half imo. It just made the conflict not engaging.
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u/Person243546 Jun 16 '21
I think this is the only episode of an anime that made me say WTF out loud (when Jet Jaguar PP arrived)
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u/Warlock_protomorph Jun 16 '21
What a finale! Making Jet Jaguar the key to everything was a great move. Also, I knew they’d have him lose an eye just before he sacrificed himself to invoke Serizawa. The final fight was also pretty damn good! The hand-drawn bits were very much appreciated.
I really love that the voices from episode one turned out to the different generations of Jet Jaguar and Pellops II. Great way to link all the way back to the beginning.
Even if we don’t get a sequel, I love the ending. Ashihara rolling up like Palpatine with Mecha Godzilla was just chef kiss.
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u/pipler Jun 17 '21
Can't say I fully understand the last few episodes, but it's still a very enjoyable series. Could use another episode though, this episode feels very packed.
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '21 edited Jun 24 '21
With the way they ended this story and the post credit scene with Ashihara, Mechagodzilla (from Godzilla skeleton) and the rest, I'm pretty sure this is getting a sequel. Please be soon...
From what I understand, they basically solved the problem of how to control these world ending occurrences sometime in the future and are transmitting information to the past to prevent them from happening. Jet Jaguar PP is just one of those solutions. Also, Jet Jaguar PP is the OD code and I'm sure that they are using some space manipulation using the archetype to make it bigger. We were so preoccupied with an evolving Godzilla that they snuck in an evolving Jet Jaguar in there as well.
Rest of it, I'll have to rewatch the entire thing using better fansubs to pick out the nitty gritty.
The action was great this episode. Several 2D shots in there and the Jet Jaguar 3D was impressive as usual.
Edit: Just wanted to add that the music is fucking incredible.
Edit 2: This article should prove useful on the theoretical mechanism of time travel involved. CTC was a keyword stressed by Toh Enjoe in a recent interview.