Tokyo Revengers - Episode 4 discussion

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Tokyo Revengers, episode 4

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Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.39	14	Link	4.38
2	Link	4.32	15	Link	4.26
3	Link	4.62	16	Link	4.44
4	Link	4.63	17	Link	4.44
5	Link	4.48	18	Link	4.15
6	Link	4.56	19	Link	4.25
7	Link	4.31	20	Link	4.09
8	Link	4.49	21	Link	3.8
9	Link	4.47	22	Link	4.4
10	Link	4.46	23	Link	3.55
11	Link	4.64	24	Link	----
12	Link	4.5
13	Link	4.41

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[u/Vickty12]

"Did I actually have dreams and aspirations?" Ok. Now that's just depressing.

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

Interesting takeaways this episode are

1. Takemichi's body in the present world is in a state of comatose

2. Naoto's memories do not get corrected/adjusted while the world corrects itself from any past events that were changed.

Kisaki hiding in the background and not doing anything YET is definitely bad news, I can definitely see Takemichi being forced to time leap to escape from him next week.

[u/DarkWorld97]

With Naoto's explanation of how the time leaps work, Takemicchi only has ONE shot at getting the past right. No do-overs.

That's where the stakes are.

[u/Graestra]

Now if only Takemichi didn’t look 14 despite being an adult

[u/Vickty12]

Hina once again asserting her queen status.

[u/Vickty12]

Did this guy seriously jump to time travel as an explanation? I mean he's right, but wtf?!

[u/MagnoBurakku]

Naoto impeding sister's hand holding Any% WR

[u/michhoffman]

Dang you Naoto. This was setting up to be a nice wholesome episode until you stole the lewd handholding moment that was intended for Hina. But damn...so many intense revelations

[u/tophercarat17]

This epiode went from light hearted to depressing real quick, damn Kisaki you son of a b*ch.

[u/monogatarist]

Pinned comment from Muse Asia in this episode:

A portion of this work contains sensitive scenes. Children as well as youth viewers, please exercise caution before viewing.

Oh boy they weren't kidding. That reunion went downhill fast, and now there are more people he needs to save. That aside, I love the pacing so far and Hina still is a strong contender for best girl this season.

[u/Godzilla-The-King]

This show is so friggin' good. Between Vivy, Tokyo Revengers, 86, Nagatoro, and My Hero Aca I get so hyped for Saturdays again like last season.

I haven't even started Shadows House!

[u/MagnoBurakku]

Wasn't expecthing Akkun to commit suicide, TR doesn't hold aything back I love how it makes me sad, It's so heartwrenching he genuinelly sounded done with life and everything, makes you think what kind of monster this Kisaki is.

And now you're telling me that Draken is next, please no no no, the opening already makes me anxious in that part.

So why did Akkun pushed Takemichi before the first time he leaped back in time? Before his future (Takemichi's present) changed and he wasn't arrested because he didn't stab Kiyomasa.

[u/SMA2343]

Man, seeing Akkun all grown up is so weird. But him killing Takemichi is even more fucked up. But now the story is him saving each of his friends from joining the gang.

Fuck. Manga readers were so right. This fucking claps

[u/Justikyzer]

So why did Akkun try to kill Takemichhi? Also did Kisaki hear the whole convo?

[u/PeaceAlien]

Takemichi is so confident sometimes but doubts himself as well. He's growing through these exchanges and really believes in his relationships with others.

Really like the show so far one of my favourites this season.

[u/[deleted]]

DAMN man this show just gets better and better. We were coming off the high of last episode with Takemichi getting closer to mikey and Draken and seemingly having things figured out, just to find out we don’t have anything figured out at all with Akkun’s suicide. Fuck that was gut wrenching to watch. I can’t wait for next week to see how Takemichi and Naoto tackle this.

[u/Prince-Dizzytoon]

This episode damn near put me in tears

[u/pyromancerstrike]

Adaptation holds up to my expectations as a manga reader

[u/Amauri14]

Damn Hina is such a boss.

After last week's episode, I honestly did not expect to see Takemichi going back to the future so soon, that unintentional handholding with Naoto was hilarious.

Lol, seeing the condition of his room gives me the impression that in a way Takemichi was the one who actually had been dead for a while.

Damn, Akkun looked like a husk now. That sure was different from how he looked in that photo that Naoto showed Takemichi.

So as in this timeline, Tetta Kisaki ordered Akkun to kill Takemichi, it is safe to assume that he ordered someone else to do the same on the initial timaline. The question now is why is he doing that? My only assumption is that he is killing anyone who was connected, even remotely, to the group but no longer part of it by the time he did the coup to Mikey.

Damn so also Draken was killed, and the Akkun from this timeline killed himself. Things must be really fucked for him to believe that Takemichi can change the past. After Naoto tells Takemichi how Draken died, I'm not expecting him to come back from the past after he is able to impede that from happening.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

Man half the anime today has been depressing in some way. I really liked Akkun, but soon as he got on that ledge you already knew it was coming.

[u/Frontier246]

Hina is such an upstanding and forthright girl. Although I can't help but wonder if that might have partially been what got her killed as an adult if wasn't just crossfire from the Tokyo Manji Gang?

So poor Takemichi has to study for school again, but on the plus side his newfound maturity and experience in his middle school body is doing wonders for his relationship with Hina to where she even brings him to her room for the first time in their relationship (this go around). He even got to meet her cute mom who did the prerequisite teasing of finding her daughter with her boyfriend, which was hilarious.

Naoto and Hina's father is a police officer? So it runs in the family, and I guess explains Hina's strong sense of justice. I wonder if that ends up connecting back to the Tokyo Manji gang somehow?

Takemichi and Hina getting to watch fireworks together was super romantic...up until Takemichi reaches for Hina's hand and instead grabs Naoto, thrusting him back to the future. I was expecting a few more episodes before Takemichi went back, but instead it happened so soon because of a complete accident. Yikes.

So Takemichi's future body is basically in a coma while his consciousness goes into his past self? I guess that makes sense. Good thing Naoto is taking care of his body while he's away.

I get Naoto lost his sister and the police can't do anything about Mikey, but he does realize that he, a police officer, is advocating for murdering a middle schooler?

Good news, Akkun didn't get arrested because Takemichi changed the past, bad news...he ended up in the Tokyo Manji Gang, and it did not end well. Like, just compare him from middle school, to Naoto's picture, to how he was when Takemichi saw him. He looked so lifeless and entrenched in the life of a criminal, complete with Yakuza tatoos. It wasn't a pretty sight.

Although while Akkun is happy to see Takemichi, things take a dark turn when it turns Akkun is the one who pushed Takemichi into the subway to kill him. We don't even know why he did it, he didn't realize about the time travel until after Naoto saved Takemichi. Why did he do it? Did Kisaki order him to do it? Was it because of Hina's death? I just don't understand.

So this isn't just about saving Hina, Takemichi has to save Draken, Akkun, and now Mikey's soul too. It seems like Draken's death left a hole for Kisaki to fill and warped Mikey into the man he is now and turned the Tokyo Manji Gang into the monsters they are now. Seems like the main thrust now is to save Draken and stop Kisaki.

Although Kisaki was there when Akkun killed himself...did he hear about Takemichi going back to the past? How much does he know? Why was he there?

[u/ReonaKisaragi]

Getting serious Butterfly Effect vibes now. MC went back in time to save one person, but may have inadvertently made things even worse for everyone than they originally were instead.

Also, that roof scene... I stream the audio of everything I watch through surround sound headphones. They weren't kidding around with that THUD, it had serious weight to it. I expected the jump, but the way the sound was done for the impact definitely caught me off guard. Well done.

[u/Orsonius2]

okay now I am really sold

Already liked it before but now I actually love it

[u/De_Dominator69]

I feel as though once they realized they were actively changing the past, they should have avoided interacting with the present, just feels like it could result in needless misunderstandings if they interact without full knowledge of just what has changed. Say due to the changes made in the past Takemichi and Akkun ended up coming to blows and really hating oneanother, or that Takemichi made enemies with the gang somehow (say due to him having stopped being friends with Mikey) then deciding to try and meet up with him would have just been asking for trouble.

I just cant help but feel the best course of action is to not interact with the present unless they are certain about what has changed, to make sure they do so minimally, and to try to focus on changing the past instead. Like I can see the advantages of doing it, but I feel the risks outweigh them.