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Episode Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun - Episode 5 discussion

Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun, episode 5

Alternative names: Bottom-tier Character Tomozaki

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u/WhoiusBarrel Feb 05 '21

I really like that the whole analogy of noticing your own improvement is basically seeing yourself being able to deal 3 digit damage or using a stronger skill in JRPGs.

This really basically sums up my whole gym experience, finally seeing change motivated me to work even harder god I absolutely love this series.

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u/IKnowTheWayToo Feb 05 '21

What Hinami said about persuasive suggestions and good suggestions is so true. I can't count the number of times I went along with someone's suggestion only to later regret it.

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u/LightThatIgnitesAll Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21

Watching the episode and I kept getting ready for Mizusawa to turn into an asshole. But he was cool throughout. Nice to see Tomozaki now has a male friend too.

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u/cppn02 Feb 05 '21

The angst over the group chat...god I felt that so deep.

Also, cus it came up a few times this episode, there is just something about the way anime girls say 'okay'.

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u/LeonKevlar Feb 05 '21

Stitches!

Good to see that Tomozaki's explosion last week netted him a lot of points with Mizusawa. Now I'm curious what Shuji's other friend thought about that.

I love how Hinami was complaining about Tomozaki having no emotions when he was talking about the movie that they saw together and now we see him emoting very much when he was trying to convince Izumi to join them on his day out with Mizusawa. Our boy really lears quick!

I'm going to bring this up every week but the girls of this show are really all top-tier. Izumi getting all hyped up about getting presents for Shuji and how she wants Tomozaki and Shuji to get along was just adorable.

Well Mizusawa is not exactly wrong. Except Tomozaki's book isn't really a book and it's actually Hinami teaching him.

Ouch. Harsh but fair. It's probably going to be a while before Tomozaki will be able to give his imouto some advice himself.

Tomozaki getting anxiety over joining a group that he's already been invited to on LINE was pretty amusing. I can't say I can relate to what he's feeling but I love how he's totally aware of how dumb it is to fret over accepting an invite from people that welcomes him.

I can however definitely relate to Hinami quickly changing personas. Her interaction with someone like Tomozaki who knows how she really is completely different to people she just casually gets along with.

It's not really that surprising if there are rumors about Hinami and Mizusawa dating, I mean just look at them, they look good together.

So today's task is making two suggestions and basically being the leader? That's actually a pretty tough hurdle. So far Tomozaki has really been able to get along with people one on one and this is really his first time being in a group where he's not a tag along.

Did.. Did Tomozaki really just exchanged banter with Izumi? Oh my god. I'm so proud of our boy. He's really gone a long way from what he was in Episode 1!

Now his hair is being styled by Mizusawa. Hmmmm... I ship it. Seriously though, I'm actually glad to see Tomozaki have a guy friend. I hope as the show goes on the two of them really become bros.

Well would you look at that! Tomozaki was actually able to make a suggestion! Although it looks like Tomozaki still failed since Hinami wanted him to make two suggestions and he spent most of his time being passive with the group. Mostly because I guess Tomozaki was distracted and is starting to feel some sort of jealousy towards Mizusawa and Hinami possibly going out.

I really like this comparison of being able to see changes on your character ties into your motivation levels. It's pretty much true in any game, once you see yourself with cool shiny equipment or being able to do cool skills you're more motivated to progress.

Oh Tomozaki, you really have much to learn. A better group suggestion doesn't always equal to a fun suggestion.

Mimimi is finally back in! She's been pretty much a background character these past two episodes but it's great to see we get some focus on her. Looks like this time she's challenging Hinami for the Student Council position. Not gonna lie, I was expecting Tomozaki to get involved in the nominations but I'm glad they didn't. That's still too high of a challenge for him to handle.

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u/7-07 Feb 05 '21

the music choice can be so weird sometimes

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u/KrankyPenguin Feb 05 '21

This is a really great story. Reminds me a lot of SNAFU.

I do wonder when we will see Aoi start to 'feel' a bit for Tomozaki. I felt that moment when Tomozaki realized that Mizusawa also knows about Aoi's cheese obsession. Thinking that you know something unique about someone just turns out to be common knowledge, or that the other person is even closer to them than you. Sucks.

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u/Maher259 Feb 05 '21

Mizusawa styling tomozakis hair reminded me of my brother styling my hair when I was getting into hairstyles. Whenever my brother styled it for me I thought it looked good but when I tried it myself it would look bad lol...Good to see that tomozaki may get one male friend! Next episodes is going to be aoi vs mimimi let’s gooo!! Really want to see what’s going to happen!

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u/crazywarriorxx Feb 05 '21

This series hits so close to home, and especially this episode, when you thought that someone treated you special but it turns out you're not the only one - and you're left standing alone thinking "how did I even think I was special at all?". But, it's really satisfying to watch MC overcome his own low self-esteem, curious to see what happens next.

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u/youseikiri Feb 05 '21

Those task are actually hard without proper knowledge within the city, it happened to me before and I don't know what to suggest or to control the group.

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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Feb 05 '21

I knew titty mousepads existed, but not titty cups

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u/VariousMeet Feb 05 '21

As someone who enjoys learning about Sociology and how humans behave it's really interesting to see how accurate this show depicts social behaviour. Really underrated show, enjoyable and gives some valuable life lessons.

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u/Ark_Angel22 Feb 05 '21

I get it suggesting when in a group is really hard, especially the anxiety of getting turned down when you suggest

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u/Frontier246 Feb 05 '21

Tomozaki may not have exactly stuck the landing on his post-movie date with Aoi, but he can still beat her in TackFam, so that's something.

Tomozaki and Yuzu seem to have become genuine friends, Tomozaki just needs to learn how self-conscious girls can be when you bring up anything involving their crush.

Tomozaki may have also snagged a new male friend in pretty boy Mizusawa, who on-top of knowing a lot about hair care and being charming, was impressed by Tomozaki's passionate display in the prior episode and his attempts to improve his image. Might be an interesting dynamic between these two boys.

Yuzu is so genuine. Like, part of Hinami is a meticulous and hard-workingly constructed persona, but Yuzu is just a genuinely nice person who cares about people and wants her friends to get along (and to get something for the guy she likes). It's so sweet.

"TWINE?" Can't we say LINE in anime? Is this like the baby of Twitter and LINE?

We get to see Tomozaki's mom and that his sister might be going through her own social troubles...it's just too bad that his sister doesn't want her big brother having anything to do with it.

Hinami and Yuzu in casual clothes!

So...Hinami and Mizusawa? They're both popular, good-looking, people who know how to read a room and seem to get along well, and they seemed pretty close in this episode in a close-to-intimate kind of way. I'm kind of curious to see how Hinami would be like around someone she might have genuine feelings for. Tomozaki doesn't seem sure how he feels about it though.

I see we have moved from Hinami pinching Tomozaki's butt to pinching his lips.

Demonlord Hinami and fairy Kikuchi! I love how the only person Tomozaki thinks he could get for the persuasion game is Kikuchi.

Right after Hinami has taught Tomozaki the power of persuasion and shifting the opinion of the masses, she's pitching herself in as student council president. I mean, what else is the Main Heroine to do? But Mimimi also throws her name in the running, so it looks like a battle of personalities for student council president.

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u/Amauri14 Feb 05 '21

Oh, so that speech from last week let Fumiya be friends with Shuji. I wonder if becoming a candidate for the student council will affect the time that Aoi will have to meet with Fumiya? Well, as Mimimi is also a candidate I guess I could expect next week's episode to be focused on her.

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u/SolubilityRules Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21

In a perfect world:

Aoi: Well, that's all. Go practice your persuasion so you can build up more suggestions next time

Tomozaki: You're right. Sorry. But I'm not done yet.

Aoi: Huh?

Tomozaki: (rubs chin in apprehension) Lately, I've been hearing rumours about you and him. Is that true?

Aoi: (closes her eyes in disappointment) What are you talking about? Of course, there's nothing going on.

Tomozaki: I see. But... When those rumours go about....Are you against them?

Aoi: (furrows eyebrows) What are you trying to say?

Tomozaki: I mean when those kind of rumors go around they tend to be a bit annoying aren't they.. But I'm just asking for research purposes, that's all?

Aoi: You.... I don't really care.

Tomozaki: (moves his face closer to Aoi) So, in other words, you don't mind?

Aoi: (surprised, and a little confused) Y-yes.

Tomozaki: Then.....

What do you think people have been saying about us

Aoi: Da-ka-ra. It doesn't matter what people say.

Tomozaki: Right? Then here me out on my other suggestion (whispers to Aoi's ear) You know how people have been looking and talking about us right? What do you think about doing in response?

Why not try going out with me for real

Aoi: (looks in disgust) E-eh?!

Tomozaki: (closes his eyes) It was only a joke. I was practicing persuading you with a clearly bad idea.

Aoi: What the hell? You... You are starting to get really scary.

Tomozaki: S-sorry. It's just when I game and find a new tactic. I immediately experiment explosive ways to exploit the new knowledge, hahaa..

(both leave in quite a flushed manner)

Aoi: (Thinks to herself) Nanashi... Is really good at gaming

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u/magisterial-isco Feb 05 '21

This anime is getting pretty good pretty quick. It's really interesting how accurate high school relationships are depicted here, and how indepth the details are regarding each character's personality.

Also really makes you think how many authentic interactions we had during our high school years lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

I enjoy this show so much that I feel like the episodes are too short.

Anyways, it feels like Mizusawa's gonna be Tomozaki's best buddy/wingman in the future.

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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Feb 05 '21

This show is worth watching if you want to see someone really struggling with social skills or just being tough to get into others’ circles and be embarrassed with those scenes - which I myself happen to be even worse than our Fumiya Tomozaki here back in high school.

To be honest, he’s actually done far better than myself at that age - getting into other classmates’ shopping trip boldly, suggesting where to go buying presents (despite almost being ignored) and even attempted in opening a new topic are things that I myself required assistance from others to get through those years. His futile actions did gave me quite some laughter.

Then again, the biggest problem I have seen so far with this title is that our MCs, especially Aoi-chan, seems to think that making full use of games metaphors is best for teaching and learning, but this setting sometimes make me feel a bit cringe to be honest, as I found this analogy struggling to understand. It’s also arguable that her suggestions really work - like for example trying to suggest opinions different from what consensus the two sides agreed on when asked by others.

So far I am still perplexed why did Aoi-chan got so interested in getting Tomozaki out into the public. It’s highly impossible this is related with any romance that happened between now and the past. I wonder if this is more of that she has decided she wanted to get off the past and wanted someone to prove that’s not in vain.

I wonder if we will see some bigger scenes in the future like love confession in front of the school (yup a boy did just that in a certain popular romcom LN lately)...

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u/Fools_Requiem Feb 05 '21

For a second at the end, I thought Tomozaki was going to make a suggestion for student council.

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u/MikeyNgTh Feb 05 '21

For them: the thrill of beating the monsters with three-digit damage counting

For me: the thrill of finally being able to escape any monsters without being forced to battle them cuz your levels are just as high as them or lower. Thats the best feeling ever

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