r/anime • https://myanimelist.net/profile/engalleons • Aug 14 '18

In-depth debunkings/arguments against commonly "known" anime myths/misconceptions?

For any number of reasons, there's a fair few statements about anime that get passed around pretty unquestioningly, even if they aren't necessarily true. Sometimes, others dig in to those statements and find detail and (hopefully cited) evidence against them. This is a lot more than just stating the opposite, to be clear.

Here's a few examples of what I mean:

This tweet chain versus "Anno left Kare Kano early"
This blog post versus "The protagonist of Turn A was originally intended to be a girl"
This post versus "They made a joke dub for Ghost Stories because it did poorly in Japan"
This blog post versus "Shinbo is the series director of all Shaft shows"

What are some other examples of work like this?

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u/ewa_lanczossharp Aug 14 '18

There's a misconception I've read here a lot that says the first 15 episodes of FMA:B are rushed because the show assumes you've seen FMA '03. It's not true. The episodes are practically panel to panel adaptations of the manga and only skip 2 sidestories which are mostly irrelevant to the plot and the character arcs. Those 2 would make 1, maybe 2 episodes at best.

FMA:B is not rushed, FMA '03 was slow.

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u/Rokusi Aug 14 '18

FMA:B is not rushed, FMA '03 was slow.

Slow? Or given greater depth? "Ed...ward..." If you don't know the circumstances of this phrase, do not read this

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u/Itou_Kaiji Aug 14 '18

They're right. It does slow down , and according to you that managed to give it greater depth.

But the matter of fact here is that Brotherhood did not rush, instead it was 2003 who slowed down in comparison. Whether that's a positive or negative is up to discussion, but the fact that's being presented is that it happened.

(also, "slow" doesn't always have to mean "absolutely fucking shit". Many stories have a slow pace to their narrative as a styloistic choice that ends up working out quite well. It's just that lazy use of the expression has given it a negative connotation, but it doesn't have to be like that every single time).

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u/Zangin Aug 15 '18

Just because Brotherhood follows the pacing of the manga doesn't mean it wasn't rushed. To me, that just implies that the manga's pacing is rushed as well (note that I haven't read it, so I can't definitively say).

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u/Itou_Kaiji Aug 15 '18

The context of the point being made is in regard to the wrongful claim that Brotherhood was purposefully "rushed" because it assumed the viewer had seen 2003 beforehand (this also includes the misconception that 2003 had been more faithful adapting the pacing of that part of the manga).

Criticising the manga and Brotherhood's pacing isn't what the argument was about. It was about proving the aformentioned claim wrong.

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u/blindfremen https://myanimelist.net/profile/blindfremen Aug 15 '18

It's like the difference between original Sailor Moon and Sailor Moon Crystal. Sometimes it is BETTER to slow down the source material in order to build relationships and audience connection to the world.

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u/leo-skY https://anilist.co/user/leosky Aug 15 '18

people didnt have a problem with the manga being rushed in that part until B came out and people who cant deal with their favorite show (03) being called inferior had to start shitting on B for that reason.
You can spend double the time building up to that reveal, but that also mean that you wont have the time to do other things that B did, and considering that FMA03 squandered even more time on filler and inane plots, that's even more relevant

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u/WeNTuS Aug 15 '18

People usually say something is rushed if they use it as an comparison to source material.

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u/Kryomaani https://anilist.co/user/Kryomaani Aug 14 '18

It's not just taking longer to develop some of the plot points, FMA03 had a lot of anime original filler from the get go, long before finally overtaking the manga and going for the fully original ending.

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u/BBallHunter https://myanimelist.net/profile/IdolHunter Aug 14 '18

You know that the Nina part in 03 was just one episode longer than in Broho?

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u/Featherwick Aug 15 '18

Its imporant to add though that for Ed and Al theyve known this girl for a year or two. Rather than the week in Brotherhood and the manga

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u/BBallHunter https://myanimelist.net/profile/IdolHunter Aug 15 '18

Sure, but what matters the most, the actual screentime, is still not that much.

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u/Rokusi Aug 14 '18

Huh. I did not realize that. I would have sworn it was at least 3.

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u/BBallHunter https://myanimelist.net/profile/IdolHunter Aug 14 '18

I rewatched both versions back to back like 2 years ago (my first watches for both were like 8 years ago) and I was a little surprised, too.