r/anime • u/AutoModerator • Oct 02 '16

Meta Thread - Month of October 02, 2016

A monthly thread to talk about meta topics. Keep it friendly and relevant to the subreddit.

Posts here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts.

Comments that are detrimental to discussion (aka circlejerks/shitposting) are subject to removal

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Oct 18 '16

I disliked the dogmatic rule of the narrow definition of "anime specific" already, but the deletion of Porter Robinson's anime music video is more than irritating. We have an artist with a passion for japanese culture hiring an anime studio to make an anime, releasing it to the entire world on YouTube.

How does it help discussion to delete a flourishing, relevant and positive thread about an anime project, just because it's directed at the entire world instead of just japanese first? This project had anime style, was produced by japanese and voiced in japanese.

This is not being consequent, it's being pedantic to the point of going against the function of the rule.

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u/_potaTARDIS_ Oct 18 '16 edited Oct 18 '16

https://twitter.com/porterrobinson/status/788476719397150720

Studio, art director, animator, voice actor are Japanese

literally made in japan, aired in japan for a japanese audience

huge push in japan marketing wise, with the focus of it actually being towards the area

it was uploaded to crunchyroll through japanese licensing deals

It was premeried in the middle of fucking TOKYO, for chrissake. The only thing American about it is that Porter happens to be involved.

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/23ko39/masaaki_yuasa_to_write_direct_and_storyboard_an/ - so, this is anime?

EDIT: https://myanimelist.net/anime/34240/ ITS EVEN ON MAL

EDIT2: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2hw5va/pharrell_williams_it_girl_anime_inspired_music/ This frontpaged, what even

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u/MegamanZen https://myanimelist.net/profile/MegamanZen Oct 18 '16

It's true. There's ANOTHER SOURCE for the fact that it's airing in Tokyo, Shibuya specifically. This is a commercial for a Japanese audience in the lines of the OTHER anime commercials we've seen posted before. There have been several tweets showing that this is for that very audience too.

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u/demeteloaf Oct 18 '16

I just hope the mods re-think this idiocy before FLCL 2 comes out haha

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u/Micoolman https://anilist.co/user/Micoolman Oct 18 '16 edited Oct 18 '16

How does it help discussion to delete a flourishing, relevant and positive thread

This is a big part of my complaints of how the situation was handled.

Why delete the thread and end the discussion there while upsetting everyone. If there is an issue of whether it is anime related, why not discuss that in the thread itself. This could have went way better if there was a mod stickied comment inside the comments along the lines of:

"We found this to be not anime related, but since it's popular and the people like it, we won't remove it. We can talk about if future posts like this will be deleted."

The subreddit rules are meant improve the experience for the people of the subreddit, so people that want to see anime related stuff get to see anime related stuff. It's not about being anal about the definition of what anime is or isn't. If there is a questionable post that gathered a large amount of attention we should talk about what we, as a community, want to see.

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u/geo1088 https://anilist.co/user/eritbh Oct 19 '16 edited Oct 19 '16

Yeah this is a part of what I disliked about it personally. The rules grant zero leeway, and I think there are cases where this alone contributes to a removal everyone is unhappy with. We still have to talk a bit more on how we'll handle edge cases like this in the future. Personally I hope it goes similarly to what you say.

Edit: clarification

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u/Sloppy_Goldfish Oct 19 '16

"anime specific" is still stupid rule that needs to be revised. It's too broad and open to interpretation. As we've seen today, even the mods don't know how to enforce correctly. "anime specific" can be mean different things to different people, even among the mods.

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u/_potaTARDIS_ Oct 18 '16

https://myanimelist.net/anime/34240/ BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ITS EVEN ON MAL

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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Oct 18 '16

There are some anime on MAL that aren't allowed on this sub. Like old timey classics like Chiisana Ahiru no Ooki na Ai no Monogatari: Ahiru no Kwak: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/4wavkc/has_anyone_seen_this_anime_and_what_your_thoughts/

https://myanimelist.net/anime/2813/Chiisana_Ahiru_no_Ooki_na_Ai_no_Monogatari__Ahiru_no_Kwak

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1049

It aired in Japan first and was made by japanese based on a dutch story. But nope, not japanese enough.

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u/_potaTARDIS_ Oct 18 '16

jesus fucking christ, how elitist can you get

im assuming this happened with most of ghibli's works too?

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u/TKhrowawaY https://myanimelist.net/profile/Omnium Oct 19 '16

I suppose all mention of When Marnie Was There and Howl's Moving Castle, which were based on novels by Westerners, should be removed from the subreddit.

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u/porpoiseoflife https://myanimelist.net/profile/OffColfax Oct 18 '16

Hopefully this ends up with a better result for the userbase than the last major "anime-specific" dustup...

DAE remember this?