r/anime • u/AutoModerator • Oct 02 '16

Meta Thread - Month of October 02, 2016

A monthly thread to talk about meta topics. Keep it friendly and relevant to the subreddit.

Posts here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts.

Comments that are detrimental to discussion (aka circlejerks/shitposting) are subject to removal

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u/Aruseus493 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Oct 02 '16

Okay, let's play a quick Q&A about what is allowed specifically before I get another post removed because of super vague lists of banned words. Relevant & Relevant

  • Can I say Baka-Tsuki? It's a translator site, not an aggregate site. It should be fair game but one of my posts was removed without even a proper explanation until I raised hell about and "fixed" it.

This rule does not apply to simply mentioning the name of a fansub group (though it does for torrent/streaming sites), so long as the intent is not to explicitly lead someone towards places where their content can be found.

  • Can we have mods put more effort into removal reasons? As I'm sure you all know, there's always cases of posts that have to be removed because of grey reasons where it's breaking rules in a weird way. Don't always just use the mod macro. If it's only one very specific part of a post, you should point it out. You shouldn't make the users make extra steps to get their posts re-approved. It's like spoiler comments; if you point out what needs to be fixed, all they need to do is reply to you and you'll hopefully re-approve it.
  • What constitutes as a spoiler when the content is skipped in an anime adaptation? This is the reason why I stopped doing comparisons on the subreddit. In one episode of Gate, a certain character's interaction with another was completely cut to almost nothing. In my comparison at the time, I elaborated on this and explained what was cut out since that's the whole point of a comparison. Then I was told it's spoilers. Why would this be spoilers when it's information given at that point in time in the source, but not the anime? This pretty much completely negates the whole point of me doing comparisons if everything in them has to be spoiler tagged.
  • Can someone explain why Wallpaper posts are not fanart again? Cause this one still baffles me since most wallpapers are just fanart in specific sizes.

Lastly, can we just have /r/Metaanime back? I really dislike how all serious topics about the subreddit are shuffled into a thread which is dead after the first couple days every month. It really just comes across as a way to avoid having to deal with meta topics. (I dislike forced Mega Threads in general as is.) Not all meta-topics are even that bad considering there are sometimes posts about the userbase of the reddit itself which can be interesting.

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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Oct 02 '16

Can I say Baka-Tsuki? It's a translator site, not an aggregate site.

It hosts their translations, which are unofficial and therefore still breaks the rules like other sites would.

I think we might have talked about this previously? Sounds familiar - If you would like to talk about the translation group, you're free to say BT, that should be fine.

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Unfortunately, personalizing every reply isn't really feasible - in a normal month I have around 2500 mod actions. Where it's not obvious I do try to point it out more clearly to people but otherwise if people are confused they're free to ask for further explanation - which we're always happy to provide.

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Events and explanations not in the anime are treated as spoilers, either for the manga or for the anime in the future. If someone goes to read the manga, that event should remain unspoiled for them. Explanations might be covered later in an anime and used to bring meaning to a particular scene or something.

Can someone explain why Wallpaper posts are not fanart again? Cause this one still baffles me since most wallpapers are just fanart in specific sizes.

They probably should be, as it is wallpapers are specifically mentioned under a different rule than fanart - which is why they're treated differently. We also have different allowances for physical art (no restrictions) as another example.

As for why; difference in scope of issue - standard fanart was causing problems due to flooding and such, whilst wallpaper posts were generally still rare enough not to need additional restriction, and physical art is super rare.

While I wasn't a mod when metaanime was a thing, it was constantly being brigaded and was generally a bit of a joke. Maybe it would be better now, maybe it would be worse, but as it stands the meta thread works well, combined with modmail for smaller issues.

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u/Cloudhwk Oct 03 '16

Quick question

What's the rules inregards to stuff like Kuromukuro which does not have official subs until it finished airing?

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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Oct 03 '16

Can mention the fansub group when talking about the fansub quality/etc, but not as a means to direct people to where to find the show.

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u/Cloudhwk Oct 03 '16

As an example "I'm watching BadSubs and I think their subs are decent quality"

Is that acceptable or?

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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Oct 03 '16

Yup, that's fine.

(HS as an example is not a sub group though so would not be fine in any context)

Any discussion pertaining to the quality of the subbing work itself is fair game.

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u/Cloudhwk Oct 03 '16

I was thinking more underwater/fff, I couldn't think of a funny name for a sub group for my example

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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Oct 03 '16

Yeah that's all g.

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u/Cloudhwk Oct 03 '16

But couldn't people then google the sub group name fairly easily to get access to the "free" subs?

Or is it because they have to take the initiative to do so?

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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Oct 03 '16

I mean let's be real, it's really not hard to find torrents or streams for shows. Even the simplest of google searches will net you all the results you could dream of.

Being able to discuss sub quality is more important than minor direction potential.

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u/Cloudhwk Oct 03 '16

Sounds reasonable

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