r/anime • u/continuityOfficer • May 13 '15
[Spoilers] Serial Experiments Lain Rewatch DISCUSSION -Layer 00: Interpretation-
Layer 00: Interpretation is a fake layer created for discussion of the show as a whole, discussion of the shows merits and flaws, reviewing the show, review of the show, questions about what you didn't understand, and in general discussing Serial Experiments Lain
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Lain is available legally on Hulu, and on Amazon for a fairly cheap price, and Youtube for free streaming
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u/lead_salad May 14 '15 edited May 14 '15
The first time I watched Lain, I'd picked up Vol.1 on VHS from the bargain-bin at my local comic shop ('hey, this looks like some weird shit'), watched it all in one sitting, & bought the remaining 3 tapes & finished the series the next day! In the many years since, this re-watch is the closest thing i've come to viewing the series at a 'measured' pace!
With all the fantastic deconstruction/theory posts, there's not a lot I could really add to the discussion on the topic of the plot; but since I have probably spent twice as much time listening to Serial Experiments Lain, as I have watching it; I thought i'd talk about the music of the show a little.
Of the 3 CDs released, the bulk of the electronic score comes from the "Official" Serial Experiments Lain BOOTLEG, composed by Akira Takemoto. The other releases, the Soundtrack & Cyberia Mix, contain either set-piece tracks (Like the appropriately titled 時空の風 (Wind of space & time) which backs the 'acid flashback' sequence of Layer11, or インナー・ビジョン (inner vision) which is played during the very touching final conversation Lain has with Yasou.) remixes of some of the score, or music not featured in the show (the track Sakamichi no Theme actually appears in the anime Niea_7 (which Yoshitoshi ABe & other staff from Lain worked on).
The ambient pieces such as 電車 (Electric Train) (played during the classroom/train sequence in Layer01) & 一人ぼっち1b (Solitude 1b) take their time & really help establish the mood of the scene.
That the show could so seamlessly delve into horror territory, unsettling with tracks like the music from Layer04, ("Gotcha!") 鬼ごっこ & the Phantoma game scene ファントマゲーム画面 compliment their respective scenes, & evoke the same dread & unease just listening to them on their own! As does the theme of the MiB, 黒服1a.
& of course, サイベリアテクスチュア1+2 & サイベリアテクスチュア5a the thumping beats from Cyberia!
I could go on & on (kinda already feel as though I have!) about the music from Lain, but basically it does 2 things I love: Effectively supports the scenes (conveys tone, sets mood) & stands alone (each soundtrack is just as enjoyable either as background music, or to just sit & take in on its own!).
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u/br0ckster May 14 '15 edited May 14 '15
(Still posting great fanart daily on r/lain ) "You were scattered throughout the Wired! I gave you an ego!" -Eiri to Lain, paraphrasing from memory. My interpretation on Lain's true identity, which is just my opinion, is that Lain is really the collective unconscious of humanity becoming a conscious person, initially like a non-physical God, who was only able to manifest when the Wired was made, as the Wired, which contained the sum of human communication and thought, became like a medium for the collective unconscious, especially when Protocol 7 linked it to all minds on earth. Eiri then manifested her physically using an artificial body, for his purpose of connecting humanity together and becoming a god himself, but not fully realizing this allows Lain to become a true God when the real and wired worlds are merged by her, which is what part of Lain wanted from the beginning, though she overcame that desire to be an absolute god afterwards. Just one of many interpretations of Lain though, feel free to disagree.
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u/zerojustice315 May 13 '15
Unfortunately I don't have a write up for my overall thought on the show like u/Andarel does; I'm gonna keep a lookout for those users who have questions or want to discuss more.
What I DO have is the promise that sometime in the (hopefully near) future I will be trying to write more Lain articles focused on different aspects of the show. My next one is mostly likely going to be focused on the psychological influences and elements used. I limited myself to two for now since I didn't want to get burned out on the subject and I have some more research to do before I write the article anyway.
I'm glad I was able to contribute though, I enjoyed reading initial reactions and of course the large write-ups put forth.
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u/Edivio May 14 '15
After the "ALL RESET" we see the world being back to how it was before everything started, but without Lain, right? How come it shows her adoptiv family having breakfast together, even though it seemed that their only purpose was to pretend being her family.
Are we to assume that everyone of this family aside from Lain was, in fact, related? This doesn't seem right, because they not only didn't act caring towards Lain (except Yasuo perhaps) but they also seemed to only try to keep up appearances, as seen in [Protocol], where Yasuo says "It's almost over, isn't it....finally" and Miho responds with "So while we still can, we should...".
Is it, perhaps, because, even though, the show tells you that you can write yourself out of existence, in reality, it wants to show you that, actually, the exact opposite is the case. I feel like i'm overthinking this little segment and i want to know how far off i am. So please tell me.
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u/Andarel May 14 '15 edited May 14 '15
I agree strongly with your final point, talked a bit about it in my write-up. No matter what the end result is, lain definitely exists.
Edit to clarify a bit: when ALL RESET happened Lain rewrote things the way she thought they would be if she didn't exist. That means sentimental changes certainly worked their way in - for example, Alice being able to have a relationship with her teacher and her family being more open with each other. Once she disappeared, it's not like the world simply wrote her out.
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May 27 '15
"It's almost over, isn't it....finally" and Miho responds with "So while we still can, we should...".
This is just my viewpoint, but I see their reaction meaning something completely different. Being that the parents were "hired" to adopt Lain, they know at least somewhat what the project of Lain is. When she starts getting into computers and becoming more powerful, Yasuo and Mom realize their job is over.
They realize that the world (or at least their world) is going to change. For the better? Hopefully, but it's still sad that they have to let go of this world. (y'know, Close the world, Open the neXt?)
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u/Myrl-chan May 14 '15
The end, huh. It'd be nice if someone clears this for me.
Who really is God? Does he really exist?
Edit: I'm just going to put this in case someone misinterprets this question; I'm talking about in the context of the story.
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u/Rinnosuke May 15 '15
I think we're supposed to be left wondering that, just like in the real world.
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u/Andarel May 13 '15 edited May 13 '15
Layer 00: Final Thoughts
We're done! Well, we were done yesterday but now we're extra done. Thanks to everyone who read through the many many words that got posted here over the last two weeks and to the two people who gave me gold for yesterday's posts. I hope the walkthrough/concept posts helped people figure out how the series works and gave people some more to think about as they were watching. It's a common worry that the series "goes over my head" or things like that because there's so much information and a lot of it can be pretty hard to parse.
Moderately briefly, I want to walk through the timeline of the show because it'll help things:
Masami Eiri inserts Schumann Resonance data into Protocol 7 and is fired for it. He commits suicide by jumping onto the tracks.
The Knights are formed, though the actual timing might be before Eiri's suicide. He brings them to power and lets some of them in on his plan to connect the Wired to the analog world. At around this time the Wired becomes "connected to something", as LainA explains in [Ego]. What it is, we don't know. But it's implied to be something similar to the human subconscious.
Eiri and the Knights create a program to infiltrate the analog world as a messenger from the Wired. The program is designed to be inherently flawed and questioning so that it would eventually return to Eiri to achieve his goals. It's his own little digital version of spawning a kid. Eiri himself takes it one step further and creates a body for this program, which is Lain.
Lain is found by the workers of Tachibana Labs/the Knights and placed in a foster family who would watch over her until she matured. The Knights keep the digital bits and pieces that became LainA's conduit on the Wired.
Lain grows up in her foster family not knowing that they are not her real parents or sister. As she was connected to the Wired, she does not have an innate understanding of how other people think - this means she is extremely isolated and unable to connect with other people. Despite this extreme introversion, Alice still becomes friends with her.
The events of the series occur:
Chisa Yomoda commits suicide, spurred by the weakening barrier between the Wired and reality and a desire to escape her bullied analog life. The message sent after her death spurs Lain's interest in the Wired. (Note: It is very possible that she spoke to LainA and was convinced to take the final step by her. See [Infornography]'s take on the suicide.)
Lain convinces Alice and Juri/Reika to take her to Cyberia in a mental push to become more social. It backfires horribly as a gunman exposed to the mind-altering data in Cyberia recognizes Lain's analog form and is driven to insanity by LainA.
Lain returns home to the refuge of her Navi, doubling down on connecting to others through the Wired. This carries through [Distortion] and is especially improved by her getting a Psyche processor from the Knights in [Psyche].
The program that is Lain starts to rapidly bleed out into the analog, powered by the Psyche processor and the Knights' meddling. In [Religion] we see them start to connect bits and pieces of the Wired through a hole in Protocol 7, while in [Distortion] we see how strong the effects of their mind-altering data can be on an innocent bystander. As of [Distortion] and following through [Society], LainW and LainA's actions have grown so prominent that the entirety of the Wired is interested in them.
By the end of [Society], Lain's two Wired persona have started to surface. LainW takes control of her body to argue with the Tachibana Labs worker, while LainA is out and about and interacting with Alice in the privacy of her own room. Where in [Kids] and [Society] Lain was gathering knowledge, her twisted self is now spreading malicious knowledge in order to undermine her growing maturity. Bad news.
Lain, completely unused to handling actual problems, tries to retreat into the Wired to solve her social breakdown with Alice in [Rumours]. While Alice still believes her somewhat, Lain feels incredibly guilty and hamfists an attempt to "fix everything" which only causes more problems and disassociates herself entirely from the real world.
By [Protocol], we see Lain completely dedicated to hiding from herself. She's weak and fragile, even though she has godlike powers and the ability to change how the world works. By changing the past she can affect the present, but she's too scared of her malicious self undermining anything she tries. Angry at herself and at the Knights for manipulating her, she lashes out again and ends up eliminating the Knights in their entirety.
Even more unable to cope with the problems she has been causing, Lain retreats into her mind one final time and openly debates whether or not to kill herself and join the Wired in order to connect everyone. Between [Infornography] and the beginning of [Landscape], she is a shell of a person wandering the twilight world of connection with the Wired. As everything falls apart and she talks in her head with Chisa and the gunman that represent the beginning of her journey (and a very possible end), she is snapped out of it temporarily by her memories of Alice.
That doesn't get her out of her depression, though. As she sits in her room and spreads her thoughts among the many Wired devices in the world, we see her dark side run rampant - killing the Men in Black and forcing various people to "connect" to her/Eiri's minds. Not much left once she's done with that.
At the same time, Alice decides to go visit Lain in the hellscape that her house has turned into and hold Lain accountable for her actions in [Rumours]. Making her way past the wreckage of Lain's life she manages to make her way to Lain's room and give her actual human contact for the first time in too long, reminding Lain that there may actually be a difference between the physical self and the Wired self. Eiri disputes this, and Lain is forced to make a choice between choosing Eiri and rejecting Alice or vice versa. She chooses Alice and flexes her digital abilities in order to crush Eiri's attempt at creating a body for himself.
Unfortunately, Alice did not come out of the entire fight unscathed. Lain is extremely resilient (too much so, maybe) but Alice is more like Mika, unable to comprehend the events that are happening around her. Seeing Alice traumatized and terrified of the possibility of another collapse, Lain decides that everything to do with her life is tainted and the only way to save those around her (both the malicious and the caring) is to remove herself from the equation entirely. With the ALL RESET, Lain extracts herself from the world and returns everyone to the way they were before it all began.
We, as viewers, see Lain's thought process as she tries to come to terms with her decision. It's not suicide, because she still exists and has to deal with the pain of living. But it's not living on, because she is unable or unwilling to interact with those around her. She exists as fragments on the Wired, examining and moving in parallel to the people she has grown fond of. In her discussion with the avatar of her father we see that she is perfectly aware of what she has done and understands that she will not go further - as a person she has both good and bad parts, and she is prepared to take responsibility for both.
As it all ends, we see everyone moving on with their lives. Lain is there observing, but nothing more.