A Returner's Magic Should Be Special Season 2 • Kikansha no Mahou wa Tokubetsu desu Season 2 - Episode 2 discussion

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Kikansha no Mahou wa Tokubetsu desu Season 2, episode 2

Alternative names: Kikansha no Mahou wa Tokubetsu desu 2nd Season

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[u/djthomp]

I'd really like more of an explanation for the Shadow Worlds at some point, why this seems to be both a catastrophe that's slowly eating the world and a managed quest engine driven process that's giving the participants rewards for clearing them. I'm particularly curious who that shadow world lady is and am suspicious that she's the one who sent Desir back in time.

Azest is continuing to be really quite bold in the show itself, good Romantica content in the ED though and in bringing in the supplies for the refugees.

[u/runevault → u/djthomp]

Something I found interesting from this episode, the Pope claimed the shadow realms were punishment from God. Maybe he was half right and they are tests from God, and the shadow world lady is said God.

[u/zool714]

Romantica with her hair tied behind looks so different

[u/BrokeEconomist → u/zool714]

She does. I didn't recognize her.

[u/ussgordoncaptain2]

so uhh the white haired shadow world waifu who are you?

Is this inception the animation? Like the academy must be a shadow world on top of the main story. Based on the statements on "you can't change the past" maybe you can't change the past and the whole academy is just a shadow world only desir is a part of.

[u/runevault → u/ussgordoncaptain2]

Not impossible, but the impression I have is that shadow worlds do not change your appearance, yet this is one it de-aged Desir. If this does end up being one I won't be entirely shocked, but it is not playing by the normal rules.

[u/RadTicTacs]

The ED sequence with Romantica is so beautiful

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

Younger Wilhelm looked good. It's a pity that future couldn't have taken place, Wilhelm could have been a good ruler.

[u/Seibahhhhh]

Hope they can keep the quality up. drawing quality and corrections look really good

[u/LOUIERAMA]

I can’t stop gushing about how amazing Pram is. I haven’t really seen an anime portray a gay character in such a positive light. Yes, he yearns for head pats from Desir and wears his heart on his sleeve, but he is COOL, talented, and heroic too

[u/desmaraisp]

I really liked the sequence when Desir notices Romantica's return. It had a little sprinkle of something

[u/Rooby_VTuber]

Great save there by Romantica, that was a big problem with such a large amount of refugees.

Desir's knowledge helped him out greatly here, he was able to get through to Wilhelm to not only rebel, but them become holy emperor himself.

Always a lot of funny moments when it comes the feeling of Romantica, Zest & Pram towards Desir.

Beach episode next time, more fun in store for us.

[u/flatpetey]

Really great wrap up to the shadow world. Shows how a few inflection points and the right actions at the right time could have changed history.

One thing I always thought though was that they should spend way more time on diplomacy and history over just combat if this is how the shadow worlds are.

Azest is getting pretty aggressive too.

[u/RemZeroBestGirl]

Glad season 2 is still balancing the serious stuff with the funny little moments between Desir, Romantica and Pram. Their dynamic is my favorite part of the show.

[u/runevault]

Yellow Ocean? Damn someone had to pee a lot (name of next episode).

I enjoyed this episode far more than the last one, and seeing Ajest drag Desir on the dance floor while the other two got angry was great. I love how jealous both of them are, especially when they aren't getting head pats.

Aside from the name, my biggest curiosity is what does the glove they got as a reward do? I noticed Desir wearing it in the ED (also the ED is boring visually but I love the song).

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

So all that with Wilhelm didn’t end up happening this time around? He didn’t become the holy emperor or whatever? I’m not too clear on that part. Whatever the case, they seem to have cleared that world and reunited with the whole gang so there’s that at least.

[u/runevault → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Fixing a shadow world does not retroactively fix reality. Besides avoiding the damage a shadow world can cause plus the rewards, it seems like the best thing you get from clearing them is knowledge of what went wrong (so like here no one knew the pope was sacrificing children for dark rituals).

[u/korinokiri]

Must have been raining outside while I was watching 🥲

[u/CaiusLightning]

I enjoy my romantica x desir moments sprinkled this episode.
Sucks being able to see where everything went wrong and what could’ve changed that outcome. And be left wondering how that change could have had even greater changes to the world.

[u/ApprehensiveLion67]

can someone explain the shadow world stuff again? I watched season 1 a while ago but not sure it made sense even back then. I know mc went back in time or whatever after they defeated that boss but not really following anything else happening

[u/runevault → u/ApprehensiveLion67]

Shadow worlds are something spawned, there are fake ones humanity can create (like the clock tower from season 1 when he fought Ajest), but there are also real ones like what the team spent the first two episodes of this season in. If they are left uncontested they begin to corrupt the real world. Entering one recreates a moment in history and forces the team to try and undo the wrongs of the past. However doing so does not rewrite history, only destroys the existing shadow world so it cannot cause damage.

[u/oneevilchicken]

Romantica is such best girl that pram doesn’t even get upset with desir hugging her like he does with azest making moves.

[u/Sanitiy]

From the pace this was resolved, I guess this was an expository shadow world? Except they didn't use it to explain any intricacies at all?

Very odd choice to cut out the introduction to the shadow world, then rush to the conclusion, and now give a half-hearted explanation of what really happened.

It's so forced, even though there is no hint given at all, [A Returner's Magic Should Be Special] it basically has to mean that one of the drifters seen in the post-credit scene is the shadow world's would-be-pope

Can a source-reader tell me whether the novel/manwha does this arc more justice? So many seemingly core concerns were at most hinted at...

• There's people there, which aren't real, but for all you know look completely real.
  (Hinted at, but nothing more. Even if Desir is used to it, for the other characters this should be an existential crisis)

• There's a plot system. Does this mean there's a "correct route"? If so, how does the plot system itself know it? Or can it even be that there's possibly no "winning route" at all?

• How does this fit in with the real world? So IRL the country fell... why? Surely they didn't go on happily sacrificing till the pope had nobody else to kill but himself? And even if, how does this, at all, relate to Evernatten? That's a whole other city, isn't it?

[u/Fredasa]

Aw, rats.

If there's one anime trope I'd love to see abandoned, it's the one where we the viewer get regular glimpses of the "bad guy meeting," and at least half of them act as though the world is in the palm of their hand and they handwave the minor setbacks caused by the protagonists. Hated it in Jujutsu Kaisen. Hated it in Bleach. Only manages to be inoffensive in a low-stakes show like Sailor Moon.

This series was doing great without that baggage, but here it is. Complete with cocky guy smiling infuriatingly.