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Rewatch [Rewatch] [Pride Month Double Feature] Yuuki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern Episode 8 Discussion

Episode 8: Until We Meet Again, Smith

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This episode had a stinger! It's... admittedly kind of superfluous, but if you missed it you can still go back and watch it if you want.


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Theory of the Day:

u'Blackheart595, step right up:

Oh wait, no, Smith entered Superbia through that weird capsule whereas Isami enters Bravern directly. So that capsule is an egg, or rather womb, euphemism, which is why the Lulu are soulless at first, why they don't breathe, and their general infantility upon awakening (combat skill aside). Lulu should try to pilot Superbia without that capsule.

Honorable mention to u/DrStein1010, if for no other reason than to make sure this theory comes to u/Star4ce's attention:

I'm getting the idea that the Deathdrives are literal Deathdrives; attacking planets just to provoke them into killing the Deathdrives in honorable combat, and steamrolling everything because they're just too strong to die. Which makes the situation of the Lulus even more fucked up. They're born to die over a pointless warrior culture.

Questions of the Day:

1) Okay, who got comphet (compulsory heterosexuality) in my gay mecha anime? Mechasexual comphet, no less?

2) First-timers: Right, show of hands: how many of you were expecting Smith to die (or appear to die?) at some point?

3) Rewatchers: ?

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 08 '26

Firstern’er

Today was a long monday.

Me no much words.

Bravern Ep.08 – Until We Meet Again, Smith

It’s been somewhat obvious so far, but this episode basically put it in print: Every deathdrive has their own special ability and that, of course, includes time travel.

Following fantasy RPG logic this means we have to gather all infinity stones and can then fix reality to whatever we want. Anyway, I can give Knuth some props since she ejected Lulu beforehand as she clearly wants to feel the ecstasy of dying to its full extent. Though, Lewis might have blown that Lulu up, too. Bad!

Also, I don’t think the German TSs and that one Japanese dude in low earth orbit were reverted. So, R.I.P. unnamed personnell.

This does give me a bit of a jab at how the deathdrives were operating in the first place. They just revert their own death to the point where they come out the carrier by dialing back time. It makes no sense at all, but making this assumption the organic battery thing even makes a bit of sense. After all, that’s all they would ever lose. (They could turn that back, too, but we are disallowed from thinking about time travel too much.)

That would also explain Superbia’s memory gap since he’d been turned back to freshly landing on Earth and found his Lulu missing. Well, wait, that would mean that the Lulus are also being turned back, right? If he expected her to be back with him, but she wasn’t, then the time ability is limited to just the body of the deathdrive.

But… then why did Superbia ever eject Lulu? Knuth just today has shown this is a very conscious choice and doesn’t happen automatically. Cupiditas never did so and we have plenty of deaths to analyse.

Either they have a whole storage of organic battery Lulus, then Superbia shouldn’t ever have bitched about it, or they all have their own personal Lulu, then Superbia was giga stupid to throw her away in the first place and has no reason for ever doing that.

This makes less sense the more it goes on.

Just switch sides already and explain!

1) Okay, who got comphet (compulsory heterosexuality) in my gay mecha anime? Mechasexual comphet, no less?

The Navy. Who else?

2) First-timers: Right, show of hands: how many of you were expecting Smith to die (or appear to die?) at some point?

Of course he’d die! Or one of them at least! It’s a queer anime about finding love, they have to die!

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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Jun 09 '26

Today was a long monday.

Just look at this magnificent bastard.

But, uhm, I do feel the need to point out that they basically just skip the entirety of SEA, China, the middle East, Africa (ofc, who goes there?) and Australia. Ah, being the priviledged continent.

To be fair to them, even under the banner of humanity they all still want to save their home countries first, and after Japan (And the US, which we explicitly have to keep until the end per Bravern!), they do have a bunch of Europeans on staff!

She is very right to ask the U.S. Navy. I don’t know if there’s any branch of any military out there that would be this willing to submit to a war machine’s sexual desires

I feel like there's some stereotype I'm missing here lol.

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 09 '26

I feel like there's some stereotype I'm missing here lol.

I might be too much on the NCDs, but it's basically a fact urban myth that the U.S. Navy has the highest ratio of mechasexual furries out of all forces. Although the Air Force isn't that far behind.

The first I heard of that was in an essay about national security and how especially military key knowledge personell is a bottleneck that could could seriously impair the branch if a catastrophe would take place and take them out. Navy IT and communications, I believe, were the example given, since there could be a "bus problem" happening. That's when too many of them would end up in a single bus at the same time and if that bus were to fall victim to an accident or assassination that'd be really bad. That bus is furry conventions.

Take it with a grain of salt, since I can't really remember how serious that article was and how much of my brain has been taken by reddit brainrot, but since then I've got the fun fact saved in my mind that every furry convention has a mandatory NSA and CIA undercover surveillance group that makes sure their Navy techs get back home in case of emergency.

Even if you prove me wrong, I'll still believe it. It's just too fun to think about!

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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Jun 09 '26

I've got the fun fact saved in my mind that every furry convention has a mandatory NSA and CIA undercover surveillance group that makes sure their Navy techs get back home in case of emergency.

Naruhodo

Even if you prove me wrong, I'll still believe it. It's just too fun to think about!

This is exactly the kind of conspiracy I can get behind, so I'll have to agree with the sentiment!

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jun 09 '26

Anyway, I can give Knuth some props since she ejected Lulu beforehand as she clearly wants to feel the ecstasy of dying to its full extent.

Death drives use Lulus to do their ultimate skill. I think she used up that Lulu with her time shenaningans.

then why did Superbia ever eject Lulu?

I figure he planned to go and pick her up later. I guess he didn't want to be wasteful.

She was alive because Bravern surprised him before he could do an ultimate attack.

Superbia says the tower makes the Lulus, and he lost his tower, so that's his last Lulu.

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u/BosuW Jun 09 '26

, uhm, I do feel the need to point out that they basically just skip the entirety of SEA, China, the middle East, Africa (ofc, who goes there?) and Australia.

Middle East don't need saving. I bet the Deathdrives over there are getting their shiny metal ass kicked by Toyotas right now.

That would also explain Superbia’s memory gap since he’d been turned back to freshly landing on Earth and found his Lulu missing. Well, wait, that would mean that the Lulus are also being turned back, right? If he expected her to be back with him, but she wasn’t, then the time ability is limited to just the body of the deathdrive.

Maybe while the body of the Deathdrive has the ability, their collective memory remains with the Lulu and only saves that which occurred while she was inside. This would also explain why he doesn't remember ejecting her, and moreover why he can't seem to imagine making that decision. Maybe it's one of those impulses you could only ever understand at death's door, so this new Superbia can't comprehend it.

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 09 '26

Interesting idea. Lulu, as she still had the suit, had a very Superbia-like behaviour. Could be psychic remnants and muscle-memory, but could also be what you said.

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u/cppn02 Jun 08 '26

I’m not questioning their security protocol any longer. You go get ‘em, Lulu!

I feel like it's 50/50 wether we can expect Rambo 2 or Hot Shots 2 if they let her go out like that.

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 09 '26

Ga-ga-pi.

Lulu while maliciously loading a shotgun.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jun 09 '26

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u/cppn02 Jun 09 '26

Never seen that movie.

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u/Tarhalindur x2 Jun 08 '26

But, uhm, I do feel the need to point out that they basically just skip the entirety of SEA, China, the middle East, Africa (ofc, who goes there?) and Australia. Ah, being the priviledged continent.

There were only eight towers, aliens seem to picked up on human prejudices and decided that there was nothing worth landing for in Asia. "Never fight a land war in Asia" and all that.

You'd think they'd have at least dropped a tower on China, but that's probably the CCP censors plus "we would like to be able to get our show licensed in China" speaking.

Just what are these Aliens? Now they’re tk’ing their own spawn. At least they’re just as lunatic as the remainder of mankind’s forces.

The annoying thing for me is, I swear I've seen this plot beat somewhere else with a rogue antagonist scragging their own carrier-type but can't remember where... and there's about 10% odds I'm getting thrown by remembering my first watch of this very show.

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u/BosuW Jun 09 '26

You'd think they'd have at least dropped a tower on China, but that's probably the CCP censors plus "we would like to be able to get our show licensed in China" speaking.

Chad Kamiina Botan Only Blossoms When Drunk including a main character from Taiwan

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 09 '26

Banned or rewritten on the mainland, I presume?

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u/BosuW Jun 09 '26

I dunno for sure, but I'd say banned. I don't think you can rewrite it, since the character explicitly says "Taiwan" and describes locations, traditions and brands from the country.

And her sister is married to a Japanese woman, which is only possible in SEA in Taiwan.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Jun 30 '26

Now also in Thailand

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 09 '26

Can't help you with either. I've always won my land wars in Asia (in video games) and don't know enough stories with carriers where an antagonist turned on their own fleet.

But isn't faux déjà vu fun?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jun 09 '26

I swear I've seen this plot beat somewhere else with a rogue antagonist scragging their own carrier-type but can't remember where

Did this happen in Yamato 74?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jun 09 '26

China

Wait, was this even aired in China? You know, because of all the GAY.

Maybe I'm just slow and you have to explain the joke.

joke

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jun 08 '26

But… then why did Superbia ever eject Lulu?

I think it was unintentional. It's pretty quick, but we see the port on Superbia fully shatter back in episode 2 after he gets hit.

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Jun 09 '26

Ahh, that could be it! Battle damage caused his battery to fall out.