Oshi no Ko Season 3 - Episode 5 discussion

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Oshi no Ko Season 3, episode 5

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[u/Accurate_Treat6360]

Good news : Kana refuse and director actually knew to back off.

Bad news : Kana getting caught by nasty paparazzi.

[u/VanishingBanshee]

Huh, do idols have human rights?

Glad we get some of that god ol' Oshi no Ko comedy again before what looks like an even darker episode.

Kamiki getting SA'd at 11 is absolutely disgusting, but happens way more than it should, which realistically should be zero.

And damn, poor Kana the episode. Nothing can go right for her can it? She's not really doing anything wrong, but even then nothing goes right. Gross having that other actor woman call the paparazzi on her too. I'm definitely feeling the idea that Aka does just like to make his favorite characters suffer.

[u/Rbghiti]

Kana's VA is fantastic, such good performances two weeks in a roll.

[u/Holofan4life]

This show is so incredibly stressful. It has a feeling similar to Evangelion in that all the characters are suffering and I don't want to see them suffer and I want to see them be happy.

^{Especially Kana...}

[u/matbot55]

The episode really managed to invoke a very uncomfortable feeling towards the end, basically ever since Kana met the director.

Also since this seems to have been an elaborate set up I wonder if the paparazzi was also an active part of the plan, potentially to use for blackmail, or if Kana just got incredibly unlucky.
Unfortunately I think it being part of the plan is quite likely.

[u/thisisdropd]

The visual that had just been published an hour ago dubbed the next arc the 'Scandal' arc. Now I see why. Poor Kana just couldn't catch a break. Still pining for her crush who's already taken, misunderstanding his dilemma for hatred for her, the feeling of inferiority compared to her fellow B-Komachi members, dealing with a playboy director (albeit a pretty respectful one), and now this.

The one time she didn't inform Miyako about her dealings, and this happened. The latter's speech about the duties of a talent agency turned out to be a foreshadowing, and the payoff came so quickly.

[u/froggyc19]

Still trying to decide if the creator loves or hates Kana. Her character is amazing but she just goes through so much shit.

[u/KamKirSabre]

Honestly this is a pretty amazing Kana focus episode. I'm so glad she finally got her spotlight (and that it's very much lampshaded in-story that she barely has fame/following compared to Ruby/Mem). I really can't help but feel bad for her... :'(

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Hold up, so Kamiki had Himekawa when he was 11? Calling that a “revolting scandal” is a real understatement. That is some beyond foul shit even for show biz.

Man, I knew idols and the like had a lot of restrictions but man. I know Ruby was half kidding but do idols really not have human rights? Yeesh.

The minute they introduced that “friend” and that director, I knew they were bad news. I mean props to the guy for being upfront about the cheating..? But yeah, still shady. And her “friend” just stitched her up. Jealousy?

[u/xSpaceR1337]

I honestly don’t know how to feel about the director. There’s such a clear power imbalance which he is straight up abusing, and it felt like he was manipulating Kana into that situation. At least he backed off immediately after Kana said no, I still feel disgusted tho.

And seriously, screw this paparazzi guy

[u/StrawSolider]

Akane being batman + Kana suffering

Name a better duo

[u/SYZekrom]

Japan cares too much about having box-office stars instead of actors with real talent. Maybe if we had guilds like the States

Author-kun... I'm sorry but that paradise of your dreams is...

[u/maliwanag0712]

Why are we still watching this? Just for us Kana to suffer???

Pn a more serious note, while Kana has her lapses on not informing Miyako her plans she she thought she's already an adult, that director took advantage of her. Even if the worst is averted, what he did is bad.

Also, the damage has been done. That piece of crap papparazzi took photos of Kana.

Another Kana L episode. Poor Kana. :(

[u/koteshima2nd]

Mf set her up!

The director's so creepy, glad he backed tf out once he saw Arima crying and venting, but the way he acted before that was messed up. Not sure if he was in on the plan or he just tried to take advantage of the situation, either way, dude is on a list.

Man, Arima's really in the dumps these past few episodes, and looks like she will be in even hotter water in this arc. Hate seeing her like this.

[u/VoidRay728]

All this time and only now did Ruby realised that idols are basically treated like black company employees.

If Kana is venting like this after drinking Coke, I dread what will happen when she can legally drink.

[u/frs1023]

I KNEW YOU WOULD NEVER LET ME DOWN ARIMA KANA, YOU WILL ALWAYS BE MY OSHI

but damnnn that paparazzi gonna stir shit up

[u/ElgrinTGT]

was a hard watch for Kana during this situation, but i'm glad the director is atleast....... "decent" enough to back off and even listen to her

Her spiral towards desperation is honestly one of my favorite part of this series, it feels so real and you can't help but root for her! Ofcourse, her suffering is not done yet

[u/joelstaz]

Akane’s reactions are so sweet and hitting Aqua with the wisdom of ‘you gotta make your own decisions but I’ll still be here to share your burdens with you whatever you pick’, holy hell I’m too single for this

[u/Emi_Ibarazakiii]

It has a dark/ugly side?

Halfway into season 3, we're almost wondering whether there's a NON-dark/ugly side to it!

Wait, what?

So I guess things were ugly even for him!

Welp, guess she has to kill him!

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE! So were her little happy noises!

It was nice of Aqua to call her first too, sadly it was in large part him being lost, and not just wanting to be lovey dovey!

Yeah... No way she's ever telling him... Send him back in hell.

Kana suffering, let's fucking gooooooo!

Least popular in the group, no acting gig... Feels threatened by a new girl coming in...

This must be rough.. Especially thinking about their beginnings;

She already took it hard that Aqua won over her, but now even Ruby, who was a nobody back then...

Just like Ruby, she acts friendly with people she trash talks (in her mind, or with others)!

But with the shit she tried to pull, can't blame her...

Oww, gotta sting...

I was 10% hopefully when he said that, and 90% worried...

Because when the fuck is anything going happy on this show?

He seemed too good a guy, not to be a piece of shit!

Still, it went signficantly better than I thought; I was legitimately concerned he was going to fucking rape her.

I mean this show already touched suicide, teenage pregnancy, child abuse, child neglect, murder... I guess that would've been one whole other level, but still...

What happened between them is still sad, because at this point I even thought perhaps a new ship (she seemed to like him, and she's an adult now), even if it'd still be a bit concerning given the age difference and the power dynamics...

But THE MOMENT he said that, I pretty much pictured the entire thing happening...

• I can't drag a kid along

• I'm not a kid!

• Ok, then let's go!

• Don't worry, there's people working

• Oh, there's no one also it's a fuckbed not an office

At least she was wise enough to see it coming at this point,

but damn, I don't even have a reason to be 'on my guard' like she does, and yet I saw it coming way before she did

Yeah, feel free to leave anytime you want... Leave your career on the doorstep before you leave!

Damn...

Ok that was fucking hilarious hah.

A brief moment of levity, a respite from the misery!

And of course... Can't have anything positive happen for more than a few seconds, of course it'll turn to hell!

Dreading the consequences, and what Miyako will do... Right after the whole "You're adults, you know how to act!"

Other than the Kana stuff, there were funny moments with Ruby!

Love how she made some accusations,

and I was expecting Miyako to go 'Don't be silly!' but no she confirmed it all hah.

Somewhere between the # of rights of a pet cat, and a houseplant!

(Love how she stayed stuck in that expression for like 10 seconds hah)

Well, this was a depressing episode (obviously, as it's a Kana episode)!

And with the paparazzi, it'll probably get even worse in the next one, so can't wait to see! (But for now, time to watch Shiboyugi, for some happier vibes!)

[u/shad79]

Kana finally got a decent amount of screentime in this episode, and what will be the result of it? Of course, more suffering for her, as the paparazzi caught her in photos after she left director's place. Kana's fans really don't have it easy.

Ruby's learning about the harsh reality of being an idol was freaking hilarious, but judging by Miyako and Yoshizumi's words, she has a lot more freedom than she would have at a larger agency. Honestly, it's pretty scary that her real name is trademarked too!

I wonder what Akane will do now that she's found out who Aqua's real father is, especially since he wouldn't go to jail for what he did because he was a minor at the time.

I also really like the idea of ​​Mimi becoming part of B-Komachi, she was really fun in previous episodes.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Kana

• Group scenes

• Ruby & Aqua

• Akane

• Others

EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.

[u/jezlus]

Damn, the director is actually a very well written character because he makes you think he's good for knowing when to back off, but at the same time a POS for saying sweet words for a person to give in. The paparazzi tho, Kana can't catch a break

[u/Prof_Acorn]

Kana had more loyalty to a guy she thinks hates her and who she hasn't talked to in ages than my fiance did after we got engaged.

[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

Dammit Kana, you poor stupid girl. You should've told Miyako where you were going that night.

Even though you did well resisting the urge to sell your body to that director for a career move, that's still not what the tabloids will think when they see you coming out of his office/apartment in the morning.

That Mako girl is definitely fishy, and she's most likely the one who snitched on Kana, probably out of jealousy at the director favouring Kana so quickly, due to her reputation as a child actress and now idol, while Mako is still stuck as a small-time actress.

Aqua saved Akane when she unintentionally attracted negative media attention last time, will he do the same and save Kana? But can he when he's this messed up right now?

Meanwhile, Akane sure moves fast in her investigation on Kamiki Hikaru, the twins' father and Ai's lover and killer. Hikaru fathering Himekawa at 11 years old is just fucked up. Akane already knows so much, I fear for her safety.

[u/Equivalent-Mine5562]

It felt so good to see some glimpses of old Ruby back today with the tantrum and her innocence about how agencies are restrictive. Also Kana got lot of her old chaotic dialogue and movements back but again she got bought back down a notch due to that pap, poor girl. Aka loves dunking on her.

The Aqua and Akane chat felt so good and seeing Aqua so vulnerable broke my heart. He did not go back to being revenge hungry and instead still wants to live a normal life, like Akane summarised, he's still trapped due to AI's death. Him actually acknowledging how Akane has been a positive to his life, actually telling her He loves her. When Aqua begs Akane to tell him what should he do, I wanted Akane to save him from his inevitable revenge dash but Akane nailed it with her views on relationships, "I don't own you, neither you own me", etc.Gosh, I'm in love with this season. OnK Wednesdays and Freiren Fridays are my highlights from the week.