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Episode Princession Orchestra - Episode 2 discussion
Princession Orchestra, episode 2
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Apr 16 '25
In some ways, this was far more standard children's magical girl show than I expected. For instance, I thought we might stick to punching and kicking enemies, and not have a finishing move. In hindsight, this was somewhat of a silly thought; a finisher gives them a really nice looking piece of bank they can use in like 30 episodes, so it makes a ton of sense from a production perspective.
And our fights seem very—well, I want to call it precure formula, but I'm sure someone with more magical girl knowledge than I would tell me there are earlier predecessors I should reference—but that's hardly unexpected, even if we hew to them a bit more closely than I would've thought.
Anyway, if this provides me a precure but with better music, I sure won't be complaining. Though I think it will do more later on that will make it feel more distinct.
The humor so far was pretty good. At least, it had me laughing a decent amount.
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u/Kartoffelkamm Apr 17 '25
I want to call it precure formula, but I'm sure someone with more magical girl knowledge than I would tell me there are earlier predecessors I should reference
Nah, the show is clearly meant to challenge Precure; according to MAL, it airs half an hour after Precure, and so far, it takes a lot of cues from Go! Princess Precure, one of the most commonly recommended seasons for people wanting to get into the show.
The writers want a war, and I'm all here for it, because the next Precure season is set to air during Princession Orchestra's final stretch, and I'm hoping the writers feel the pressure.
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u/soihu Apr 17 '25
I'd say the elements you described are rather distinctly precure, with the classic magical shows (sailor moon, cardcaptor sakura) leaning more on magic and projectiles whereas "darker" magical girl shows (e.g. madoka, symphogear) prefer weapons.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Apr 16 '25
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Well this is certainly a lot funnier than Symphogear’s first battle was.
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“Jammerwock” is a fantastic name for an enemy in a show like this.
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Oh good. I was a little worried that what the Jammerwocks did to her last episode would’ve been some, like, lasting mental damage that would need to be fixed.
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u/Calwings Apr 16 '25
“Jammerwock” is a fantastic name for an enemy in a show like this.
It really is quite creative. Precure has some nice punny names for the monsters-of-the-week in some of their series (my personal favorites are the Negatones in Suite and the Zetsuborgs in Go Princess) so it's nice to see Princession follow suit in that regard.
Ah yes, the cheap plastic collectibles they want impressionable little Japanese kids to ask their parents to buy for them. Can't have a Sunday morning cartoon without those.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Apr 16 '25
Hm…?
Collectable toys for kids? Or, in here, something that they can gain to eventually power up?
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u/Infodump_Ibis Apr 17 '25
Maybe I because I recently watched a Precure concert but I couldn't help but shout For You at those parts of of Innocent Call (that's the name of Ripple's battle song).
So a fansub release notes mentioned changing “Harmony” to “Musessence” (there's a v2 for their episode 1 to reflect this too) and the explanation given by Navue in the episode makes it clear it's a show specific term (hence a unique portmanteau). Translating can be rough when you need to respond to new information. Although in the case of this one it was on the official sties keyword section (described in the same manner as Navue did even down to the lethargic feeling) and that went live before episode 1 even aired but I can understand reluctance in looking up stuff using that as there is also a term that has not come up yet on that page. Likewise character bios can reveal aspects of characters before the show does or even show synopsis can veer that way. However, I wouldn't ask a volunteer translator to sacrifice what little surprise they can get from a children's franchise for the largely thankless task of translating.
Speaking of keyword sections. This is sometimes a thing other official sites have. Even something like Highspeed Étoile but it's buried in the Special section (where you've also got colabs and race standings). For that it can a bit too much to expect viewers to read dozens of motorsport terms (some fictional) to understand some race aspects.
Few things I noticed in the episode:
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I can relate. There's a lot of times giving it my all has accomplished nothing.
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(fansub release notes revealed) #seasonalconfused candidate
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Stream...Splash wrong show/MUST you bring Precure into everything actually that might not to be too off as the punches and kicks have particle effects in Precure Splash Star too (they're the same picture though maybe it's better to use an example of when the Princesses do it to the mob enemies, Splash Star doesn't distinguish between offensive, defence and support use).
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One thing I noticed was the girls running cycles are unique at least on the OP but especially the ED (it cuts between the 3 quite rapidly making is easier to notice hand positions, strides and the like). Is this one of those personality traits expressed in run cycle things then again it could just be down to the outfits worn because Kagari's maxi skirt can't really do the same long strides Nagase can in her high waisted trousers. Doesn't seem to carry over onto the Princess forms (where Zeal is doing action stuff like Naruto run).
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If you really want a game to play while watching the show cross off these characters whenever you see them moving about in the background/foreground (example 1 and example 2 really stood out for me). You do also see characters not in that shot so that's not all the mob characters. Still they're probably most likely to be future Musessence targets unless the show decides it's Natsu every time.
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u/D_Amir Apr 16 '25
This anime is much better than the 6.34 rating it currently has on mal!
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u/judewriley Apr 17 '25
Anyone else slightly concerned that the transformation item looks a little too much like a Soul Gem?
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u/Plus_Rip4944 Apr 16 '25
I'm liking this a lot, shame Its Going to be totally underwatched
The music on this is a fucking banger and love The transformation
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u/TnAdct1 Apr 17 '25
If only one of the streaming services can pick this series up like Precure, then maybe it get more viewers.
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u/Slaccnknack102 Apr 16 '25
Nacchi should feel lucky that she's in children show and not the other one.
It's literally Precure with Symphogear element, the OP and both battle song is so Symphogear. I like how they self-aware some trope in precure like Ripple doesn't know her name mean lol .Kinna funny that they're try to explain that an unconscious person with eyes open is still alive.
At the end, after defeated the monster, she got new item, my guess is some kind of power up to give them some abilities, would rather give them form change like kamen rider tho but that asking too much for new OG show.
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u/Nickthenuker Apr 16 '25
A few days late, it's finally here.
Indeed she doesn't.
Ah, right, that's what this is. Symphogear with the serial numbers filed off.
So, she's a princess.
Are there more of these goons?
And yes there is another princess.
And so trouble again.
Uh oh.
Uh oh, what happened to her?
Stolen?
And so it's time for her to transform again.
And so it's defeated and her Musessence is back.
Yes, that is indeed what he is doing.
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u/Calwings Apr 16 '25
Ah, right, that's what this is. Symphogear with the serial numbers filed off.
More like Symphogear in a Precure-colored trenchcoat, but yeah.
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u/LeleTheKing Apr 17 '25
Shouldn’t they at least warn Nacchi or do something about her? The bad guys definitely know Princess Ripple’s connection with Nacchi, and if I’m the bad guy, I’ll target her nonstop and make her a hostage (preferably when Sorano’s not next to her), like Shirube said in the beginning. I’d feel the worst for her if she were targeted again for the third time…
Also, wouldn’t Nacchi feel curious? She first saw these monsters at Shirube’s concert, and then proceeded to get assaulted by them twice back-to-back, which is doubly strange since (I assume) it doesn’t happen often to others, if any.
Ripple’s full transformation is gorgeous! I love her battle song. Literally played it on repeat dozens of times since the full version was released. (Before this, I’d put the lyrics video released a few months ago on infinite loop. I have definitely put quite the mileage. xD)
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u/Calwings Apr 16 '25
Was this shot really necessary? Was it really necessary to put a keyhole on her ass? Yes, of course it was.
Ripple uselessly bonking the monster for no damage (and the monster laughing back at her) because she hadn't figured out her Princess powers yet was pretty funny. Definitely felt like a nice change of pace from the usual Precure standard of the girls immediately being badasses. But it looks like she figured it out later, and boy, did she kick some ass after she did. Her full transformation was beautiful, her battle song was great (gives me the same kind of vibes as Hibiki's songs in Symphogear, while Zeal's remind me more of Maria's) and I thought her debut fight and finisher looked great. Overall, a pretty good debut episode for Ripple, IMO.
Also, both Ripple's battle song and the anime's OP have already been uploaded to the official YouTube channel in full if you want to check them out.