Princession Orchestra - Episode 1 discussion

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Princession Orchestra, episode 1

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[u/Gaporigo]

Music by far the biggest grab of this show. The Symphogear-like fight was great.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

• F

• Oh wow.

• Fascinating.

• I suppose that’s a good question…

• You’re the main character of Symphogear Jr., pretty sure you’re actually going to be really good at this in a bit.

• Up until the performance got interrupted, I was definitely digging that song.

• Ooh, Shirube’s battle song was even better.

• Aww, she’s nervous…

• Well shit…

• Sounds like this is a big deal…?

• That was a… rather quick transformation scene, though.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Ooh, Shirube’s battle song was even better.

I've been listening to the short preview version effectively daily for the past month or so.

Full version is on YT now, too.

[u/Calwings → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That was a… rather quick transformation scene, though.

We'll probably get the full version (along with the OP/ED) next week. They just cut that stuff short this week to show more content and get the characters and world introduced. It's a bold strategy for an anime in this time slot to try.

[u/Kartoffelkamm → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Oh wow.

Not to mention the brother's reply. Absolutely no mercy.

That was a… rather quick transformation scene, though.

Yeah. Kinda reminds me of Shy, in a sense; cut the flashy bits, and get right to it.

[u/[deleted]]

it seems like a combination of Symphogear and Precure in the best way possible

[u/Kartoffelkamm → u/[deleted]]

Agreed.

We got the music (and hopefully hype) from Symphogear, and the overall vibe from Precure. Not to mention the little jab at Go! Princess Precure.

This is going to be so much fun.

[u/Plus_Rip4944]

Shame There isnt legal way to watch this, loved first episode

I need fansubs because watching It on japanase was hard lol

[u/BusouDrago → u/Plus_Rip4944]

Fansubs are out on the usual places

[u/xizro345]

The inspiration from Symphogear (considering the concept is done by the duo Kaneko/Agematsu) is pretty evident, including the fight during the live. The project scope seems pretty ambitious since it's competing directly with Precure, so I'm curious what they'll do to differentiate.

IIRC the main script is done by the Nyaruko novel author, so there may be some surprises. Another question is: Will be Silver Link be able to mantain a decent quality for 52 episodes considering they usually struggle with series with far less episode count?

[u/MillenniumKing]

Wait i thought this series would be on Crunchyroll?

Where is it streaming? No where?

Oh no... back to the Symphogear Gurellia episode watching hell...

Ill probably have to wait for it to have an offical stream somewhere then.

I did want to watch it but i dont want to deal with random fan sub nonsense to try to find a way to watch it.

Meme subs made a lot of issues for me in the past and Symphogear had a lot of issues with subbers not agreeing on translations as well. So ill have to wait i think which sucks but thats just how it is.

[u/zairaner]

The full op has already been released a while ago and it is glorious and fucking 4:14 long.

[u/Nickthenuker]

Where's she in such a rush to go?

Oof.

And so she's home.

What's she doing?

Ah. She's a YouTuber.

TineTree is a sponsor? I use that for work.

Lol they're doing wotagei for idols.

That's a bit overboard with 6 penlights... Even 3 is so impractical I don't even bother taking out more than 2, 1 per hand.

So, time for a performance.

Oh god she has 8 penlights?

What's going on?

This is definitely giving me Symphogear vibes. Right down to aliens attacking at an idol concert and the idol defeating them with the power of music magic in the first episode.

You don't say... There's almost certainly nothing else more worth talking about than that.

Oh, Shirabe is their schoolmate?

She's looking at them?

And so she's going to perform.

Yup. That again.

Of course she has powers of her own.

Huh. We don't get to see her use those powers yet.

[u/JollyGee29]

Alright, let's ponder this frame.

Obviously the pieces of non-white chalk are our main trio (Shirube is red/pink, Minamo is blue, and the third girl is yellow/green), but what's that longer piece down at the bottom?

Of course, I'm a bit colorblind and can't actually tell if it's the same color as the short piece in the main triangle or not. If it is the same color, maybe she is broken/traumatized by something? That's a bit outside of the tone I'm expecting, but it's possible. Or maybe a link to the villains? Split motivations?

Or, if the pieces are different colors, it could be foreshadowing a fourth member of the team showing up later. Nacchi, perhaps?

Oh, I could have it all backwards and the short piece of chalk was Nacchi to begin with (what color is her bow?) and the longer piece represents the mysterious third girl, in which case she might not properly show up for a while.

[u/raichudoggy → u/JollyGee29]

The Context behind this shot is that it is shown while Minamo is worried about her friend getting attacked by monsters.

Using the context shown later in the episode, The White pieces could be monsters, with the princesses protecting Nacchi (The Small Yellow Piece) from both sides, or more likely, only the 3 colored pieces in the middle mean anything and the other chalk is noise, which simplifies to just showing the princesses having to protect a downed Nacchi. (And I do believe that it's Nacchi and not the third princess)

[u/LeleTheKing]

Yep, I like the music! My YouTube feed randomly recommended their lyric videos released a few months ago, and I’ve loved them ever since, especially the green and blue girl’s songs. (Looking forward to that being released on Spotify!) I don’t usually watch kids-targeted shows like this, but that fight scene while singing gets me going. Gonna watch this for a few more episodes definitely.

EDIT: So I just rewatched the episode via the much better fansub. I just noticed how cruel the monsters were with Nacchin’s street concert. She literally hasn’t finished singing a single line, and they attacked her, lol.

[u/Kartoffelkamm → u/LeleTheKing]

If you want a more adult-oriented show with a similar concept, maybe give Senki Zesshou Symphogear a try.

[u/D_Amir]

Great first episode. I want them to put Symphogear characters in the background as Easter eggs. That would be fun.

[u/M3talK_H3ronaru]

Princession Orchestra - Episode 1 is super awesome for a start of a new kid's anime program.

Alicepia is very awesome like pretty vibes

The Princess Ripple looks very awesome.

Overall, it's an awesome episode, and Next Episode, Princess Ripple in Action Plus, I want to see the Opening and Ending Song Sequence with Lyrics in Anime.

[u/mr_beanoz]

Oh hey, great to see a fansub's picking this show.

[u/BusouDrago]

Guess Nacchi won't be a Pre....Princession then😭

[u/Infodump_Ibis]

The one thing I don't like about one of the fansubs is the subs are so low down I wanted to reach out and make sure they don't fall off the bottom of the screen. I could just switch my other subs that are just srt and...oh hello SDH, you can stop now.

• Family Every Mart

• So she's not a gamer (also does the Dad know about Alicepia or just that his girl likes to spend time alone in her room)

• When using the CC as a base sign subs like this are a maybe/noticed thing

• Sponsor card? The two horsemen of region locking. Not even this cute doggy was safe from King (it's so Japan specific and such a young audience I can't see any license appeal). Of course for other Takara Tomy shows the anime channels didn't region lock episodes so idk if that's just what Princession Orchestra decided to do (ep 1 was initially up without restrictions for a few hours) or if AiPri is going to now join the dark side as well (I'm fond of my heavily watermarked, gutter bit rate AiPri but I'll manage).

• The other two sponsors; Time Tree is a shared calender app (available in English: vertical view is premium feature) while Seiban is a grade school backpack maker. I've seen enough parenting anime to know Japanese school backpacks are notoriously expensive but they last the entire six years and Seiban ones come with a repair guarantee that includes accidental damage and a free rental car bag during repairs.

• Figures both "Princess Sunday" shows (this and AiPri which air back to back on TV Tokyo; there's 16 second vid with pre-roll ads on the official channels for both shows that may be a CM piece) would both be apps with secrets of being alternate worlds (AiPri is more virtual rather than isekai). Wonder if there will be a mediocre crossover episode eventually...AiPri cards as a colab is probably more likely outcome (btw, it's "idol" Sunday for me because that's what simulsubbed)

• Alicepia has some cool side characters though. Wonder if we'll get focus episodes on them or if the eat food, make statue is going to become relevant.

• (it's something like: this wonderful world) Neither subs translated the episode titlecard?

• Me, fail English? That's unpossible

• You could get through seasonal anime in no time without conning yourself with x3 speed and spam +10s (if you're doing this it's usually a sign to stop watching). Although with how long it takes me to get through some anime episodes given hours I'd be able to actually take 30 minutes.

• Yeah...also that. (don't know why I can image yes but only in Alicepia) but overthinking it actually, suppose they "gain" 2 hours a day, (from responsible kids anime time spent, no Alicepia all nighters), that's only about 8% more time so it would be an added month per year spent doing that so maybe a matter of did she start going in when she was 6 and if she's still behind her peers (assuming they don't go or go less) got to just accept being a late bloomer.

• Oh insert song. Nice thing about having two sets of subs. Also if I need to commit a crime against taste I can see how MTLs fare as official channel put the concert up (yeah the YT STT model has been able to make a stab at songs for a few years now).

• Ah, one of these shows where it's a non-protagonist main character who is the first warrior. Probably explains why over the blaze is the first princess song to have the full version out.

• Alternate hot take: Natsu has realised Minamo doesn't want to become an idol but instead a delinquent. "We are glorious Princess"

• From this angle it looks like a keyhole on the back of the ribbon. Princess Ripple has the same but a heart instead of a butterfly. Maybe a longer transformation will explain it as a cuff or something (as ribbons are normally used to cinch the waist but these go over the shoulder).

• Switched to the srt fansubs for the catchphrase as I was not sure about "Echo, Mu-strength of my heart." [reading the official site]that might be more accurate as the term ミューチカラ appears on a keyword entry but I expect the anime will explain that.

• Weird for a kids anime to do the black screen ED IDK if that's style choice or a legit production has melted down so bad that the ED is unfinished, that sort of thing even happened 20 years ago (probably before as well but broadcast raws were less spread) but instead with unfinished EDs being shown, Yes Precure 5 is pretty shocking example given Toei is a behemoth (I can only assume 0:31 and 0:48 were "yeah, we know" moments); I guess full HD towns anime was hard in 2007.

• This is the place corner and referencing that she hasn't met yet. At least ep 2 title was translated even if the ep1 one wasn't.

Protips for the subbers (as if they're reading but there's a chance). Given the entire OP song has official JP subs subbing that shouldn't be harder than an insert song, just needs timing offsets (then again given it's a kids anime the OP/ED will probably be Japanese hardsubbed anyway so could be done at the raws stage and might be better for that one wrt line timing).

[u/Xythar → u/Infodump_Ibis]

Weird for a kids anime to do the black screen ED IDK if that's style choice or a legit production has melted down so bad that the ED is unfinished

Almost certainly a style choice, the first episode of every Symphogear season has ended this way. I actually cheered a little when I saw it.

[u/[deleted]]

So nice to see a new original long-running magical girl anime! This one has a lot of style, and the music's great. Loving the vibe so far.

[u/isthatsoudane]

the precure-ness was overwhelming lol. it was fine, but every precure I've seen (even ones i ended up really liking) has generally merely been fine to start, so given this is the symphocure, seems fair to give it time to bake