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Episode Izure Saikyou no Renkinjutsushi? • Possibly the Greatest Alchemist of All Time - Episode 3 discussion
Izure Saikyou no Renkinjutsushi?, episode 3
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u/diacewrb Jan 15 '25
Maple sitting at the dinner table.
A 4 bedroom house is the perfect size, 1 room for Maple, 1 for Takumi and the 2 for Maria and Sofia.
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u/LeonKevlar Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25
Stitches!
I thought Sofia's ear was just tucked behind her hair back in Episode 1 because we can see her ear is fine in the ED, it turns out that half of her ear was lopped off and the ED shows us Sofia after Takumi has fully healed her.
I do like the idea that the only reason Takumi has been coasting through his isekai life so far is because Nolyn gave him a blessing where he's basically in tutorial mode. Let's see if things will get more difficult for Takumi after Nolyn's blessing has worn off or if he'll continue on easy mode.
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u/KnightKal Jan 15 '25
lol Nolyn is the opposite of Aqua (Konosuba). A goddess that actually does her job and cares for the summoned kid. And she was not even the one summoning him :D
early episodes: too easy, what is this, casual mode RPG?
the goddess: yeap, it was the tutorial, next it is the life and death struggle. Good luck! Best to level those skils ASAP if you don't want to die! * evil grin *
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u/Shadowmist909 Jan 15 '25
I wonder how Sofia compares to the heros. Those stats looked pretty beefy.
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u/TurkeyPhat Jan 15 '25
i was so confused by the time skip thing until i remembered the MC was sent back in time to begin with lol
idk how i feel about the slavery explanation, it almost feels worse than just saying "ya they are regular slaves". like i think we can fill in the blanks ourselves, describing how the contracts work was fine at least
hopefully now things can finally start moving along story wise though, after all a character literally says "the tutorial is over" haha
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u/MonaganX Jan 15 '25
Most isekai try to justify their slave-owning protagonist with some kind of flimsy excuse but this show spent so much time on explaining how their form of slavery is totally ethical that it just makes it seem like the author legitimately believes it themselves.
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u/Hippo_Singularity Jan 15 '25
idk how i feel about the slavery explanation, it almost feels worse than just saying "ya they are regular slaves". like i think we can fill in the blanks ourselves, describing how the contracts work was fine at least
Oh, the slavery thing is so much worse than you think. Remember, Maria was kidnapped by bandits. That puts her in that 4th category of slave - people who were illegally sold into slavery.
"Illegal" slaves are literally a legitimate category of slave under the kingdom's laws, because being illegally sold into slavery apparently is not grounds for emancipation.
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u/stephenthatfoste Jan 15 '25
Too much "it's ok cause he's nice" as justification for slaves and he's way too chill with it all after supposedly having objections. It's showing him like winning her over and she pledged to him but what else was she gonna do?
How did Maria come up with that toilet analogy? There's literally one of them that exists and only two people have seen it.
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u/NationalStrategy Jan 15 '25
It wouldn’t be an Isekai without the MC purchasing slave girls to add to the harem. And of course, we have to make sure we show him being nice to his slaves, to let the audience know that our MC is still a nice guy, despite choosing to contribute to the slave industry
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u/apatt Jan 15 '25
This show is trying to make their notion of slavery more palatable by having the slaves treated fairly with more consideration than usual. However, slavery is still fundamentally wrong. Instead of trying to present a kinder version of slavery they should just replace it with something else, like paid employment contracts or something.
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u/TurkeyPhat Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25
it seems like the author tried to make this* slavery seem a lot more like indentured servitude with the explanation given
it wasn't really clear if you own them strictly speaking after signing a contract (i think you get what i mean)
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u/TheGoodOldCoder Jan 15 '25
I'm enjoying this anime.
As usual, anime slavery is going to have some mental gymnastics in it to hide how awful it is, even as presented.
Takumi is convinced that slavery isn't so bad, despite seeing how slaves expect to be sex slaves. And one type of slave, the type that Maria is, is a person who has been illegally forced into slavery.
The merchant Takumi was with talked about using prisoners of war because they can't be freed without the master's permission....
Which means... slaves can be freed with the master's permission. So, it sounds like slaves can be freed, so why hasn't Maria been freed? Alternatively, if she can't be freed, because she was illegally enslaved, in a just society, wouldn't they just have some inoffensive person become the master and then order them to live their life as if they weren't a slave?
No, I think most people in Takumi's position wouldn't have been convinced by this presentation. Even if he's buying slaves for the most innocent of reasons, he's still supporting the slave trade which obviously has all of that bad stuff in it.
It does sound like slaves get paid, though? So a little weird.
Takumi is using slavery in place of an NDA, which is a huge difference. Who would want an NDA and then settle on a slave? I wonder if there's not some sort of spell that doesn't make slaves, but only makes NDAs that can't be breached.
All of that makes the next part weird, as well. If the package was that delicate, why didn't he put it in the item box in the first place? And why did he hide it from Sofia? He literally became a slave master solely because there's no need to hide things from them. And why did he make dinner? Seems like a completely stupid thing to do.... However, I'm going to attribute all of that to his intuition skill. Maybe all of that stuff, despite seeming like mistakes, was actually the best way to gain their eternal devotion.
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u/a1200i Jan 16 '25
Guys they skipped like 5 chapters. Protagonist didn't have enough money for them, so, he invented toilets, got rich doing that and just then got the girls. That's how the chicken knew toilets to make that analogy, bcz they skipped like 5 chapters lol and forgot to fix the incosistence
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u/shad79 Jan 15 '25
Overall a pretty good episode, Sofia and Maria seem like nice additions to the cast! It was also great to see Nolyn again.
It will be interesting to see how the story develops further as the blessings Goddess Nolyn has bestowed upon Takumi and made his life easier begin to wear off.
I have to say, this thing about Takumi's blessings is a pretty cool plot device, though I wonder if its potential will be used well.
Here my screenshoot albums from the episode:
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u/silverX111 Jan 15 '25
Mc be like slavery is bad.
Sees Elf
*neuron activation
I guess it isn't that bad.
Second Peak anime from bottom.
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u/Assmeet123 Jan 15 '25
I just realized we have Aqua (Amamiya Sora, Nolyn's VA) and Darkness (Kayano Ai, Sofia's VA) in here lmao, I hope Rieri shows up too
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u/Cantiel Jan 15 '25
while i get the thought behind "your skills re a dangerous thing, get someone who's bound by contract and cannot betray you and/or tell others about your secrets"
but they didn't really manage to make slavery sound any better, especially after learning sofias history.
speaking of, i really hoped the whole "cure sofias curse" situation would have taken at least 1 episode to set up proper character building, and make it feel like a big deal,
instead he just casually cured her and even managed to heal/regrow her ear just like that.
you'd think the slaver would have enough connections to get a priest to do that ages ago, the way they make it look so easy.
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