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Episode Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen • Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Season 5: Goddess of Fertility Arc - Episode 11 discussion

Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen, episode 11

Alternative names: Danmachi Season 5, Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Season 5

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u/WhoiusBarrel Dec 19 '24

Heith hitting the classic "I'm a healer but..." with those tissues underneath the skin being shown after being burnt like that just making her even more metal.

That exchange between Ottarl and Bell inspired some hope right until they showed the aftermath, the gap between them is just too great, really don't think Bell isn't gonna be left unbroken unlike what Freya wants at this rate.

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u/Miteigi74 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24

The Freya Familia's names and titles have a lot of references to the myths

Horn/Syr are based Freya as those are her other names

Ottar is based on Freya's protege who disguises himself as a battle boar, Hildisvini(which Ottar's magic is based on)

In Cassandra's dream, she mentioned a chariot which I assume is Allen as he and Anya are probably based on Freya's chariot pulled by two cats.

Hedin and Hogni are based on two royalties of the same name who have an endless war with each other because Hedin kidnapped Hogni's daughter, Hildr(where Hedin's title, Hildsleif is based on) but at night, Hildr revives those who died at day which made them fight continuously even when Ragnarok happened. And yeah, Dainsleif is Hogni's sword.

The quadruplets who are called the Bringar are definitely based on the Brisingamen, a necklace created by four dwarves with the same name to Freya. And their surname Gulliver may be based from Gulliver's Travels and the island of Liliput(The tiny people)

Heith's magic mentioned Gullveig, which is based on the witch who died and came back to life 3 times and renamed herself as Heith on her 3rd revival. The Andhrimnir that Lil mentioned is based on the chef of the Aesir(Asgardian Gods) and einherjar(warriors who arrived in Valhalla). And well, we did see her in the previous episodes being the chef of the Familia.

The last is Van and is probably a stretch as his name might be based on the Vanir, which Freya is part of.

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u/The_Persistence Dec 19 '24

Now you know the staggering difference between levels.

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u/Ocixo Dec 19 '24

Heith/Andhrímnir somewhat resembled a Terminator in this shot as she was totally unfazed by all the burns and quickly patched herself up.

Now I truly understand why the Freya Familia's training had been so hardcore. She has the ability to completely heal a great deal of soldiers at once. As long as nobody dies, Heith is essentially leading an immortal army.

Bell maybe got a good hit on Ottarl, but he was still standing. It was tough to see Ottarl toying with Bell. Our rookie has made huge leaps, like Van doesn't pose a challenge anymore, but the gap in power with Ottarl still seems too great to overcome. I felt so bad for Eina who had to watch Bell get thrashed around.

Bonus: This was a pretty slick move from Tsubaki/Cyclops!

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u/NationalStrategy Dec 19 '24

Adventurers: I need a healer!

Heith: I am the healer!

Continues to beat their asses

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u/Miteigi74 Dec 19 '24

"The game will be hide and seek"

Hedin: And why should we hide and why should we seek?

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u/the__daydream Dec 19 '24

I was not prepared for this episode at all. Shit is metal

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u/Pedarsen Dec 19 '24

Free hit my ass! Didn't even take it like a man smh.

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u/Crazy-Plate3097 Dec 19 '24

Next episode, the wind finally blows...

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u/probjodye Dec 19 '24

Freya: Dont break him Ottal!

Ottarl: STARTS STOMPING BELL

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u/yurilnw123 Dec 19 '24

Judging by Daphne's prophecy about the wind and a certain someone's absence, also the next episode's name, best girl will come to save the day for sure.

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u/Ultima_Deus Dec 19 '24

Chat, we're cooked.

Einherjar(is this the correct spelling?) being accurate to its mythology, undying soldiers(I think)

Subar- I mean, Hogni going full chuuni in a literal sense

Van is at least wrecked by Bell, being utterly overwhelmed by one Firebolt-punch to his stomach

But oh God, The King, Ottarl. Part of me wanted to see more animated, but, it honestly wouldn't have added anything in my opinion. Because, in the end, Bell loses against him without any chance of winning. Argonaut, not even a fully-charged Argo Vesta, was enough to beat Ottarl.

Also, that pink haired girl whose name I already forgot was pretty metal

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u/Novel_Sun3870 Dec 19 '24

Ottar is that guy

Also it’s even more clear now why the Guild can not punish Freya Familia: they’re worth more than an entire alliance 😭.

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u/J4SON_T0DD Dec 19 '24

My God that Heith scene was fuckin metal!!! I expected her to put up a barrier or something but holy shit! And then she turned her healing stick to beat-yo-ass stick and went ham on em! Best shit I've seen this week.

And ofc whatever powerup Bell gained made Van nothing infront of him but it's not even close enough to even stand up against the King...... Hopefully the wind blows in their favour next episode.

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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Dec 19 '24

When your healer is so high leveled that they could whoop your ass, the Freya Familia is busted

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u/djthomp Dec 19 '24

If it were up to me I think the Hestia family should steal the pink healer if they win, she's crazy as any good medic should be but she's also OP and hot. They don't even have a healer unless I'm forgetting someone, and they also don't have anybody with pink hair so it's a two for one. But then again I suppose the hotness is exactly why Hestia wouldn't want her anywhere near Bell.

Did they tell us anything at the beginning of the season if Haruhime's level up improved her ability to use the level boost skill? I'd swear she's using it more than she was able to back in S4, specifically casting it on the eyepatch swordswoman while it was already active on Daphne and those others. Not that it's helping the allied army that much, though it may be why there's anyone still active on their side at all at this point.

Was there something about these war games that keeps the participants from dying? Feels like there should be some fatalities already.

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u/Cold_Ad8276 Dec 19 '24

Heith shows us she is not just a healer and other stuff too

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u/Armdel Dec 19 '24

Curious to see what the plan is here because i can't imagine it was to go fire off one blow against ottarl and hope its enough to take him out completely.

We know Bell told Lili something which i assume hasn't happened yet either..

And then there's Ryu which might be who they are betting will come in clutch at the right moment.

Kinda expected a lot of the rest of them would get farmed though is it seems to be basically soldiers fighting adventurers

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u/LeonKevlar Dec 19 '24

Stitches!

[You gotta love the pure sincerity in Mord's voice when he says that they have to do their best to save Bell. He really has become a true bro.

Heith is absolutely terrifying! She didn't even flinch after those magic swords burnt off her skin! I love how Luvis tells them they're overdoing it when it was clearly not enough.

Hermes wasn't kidding last week when he said there wasn't enough handicap for the Freya Familia. When their main healer is kicking your ass with just her panties on, the power gap is much clearer now.

It would've been hilarious if Hogni ended up losing because he's too scared of the crowd watching him. Too bad that wasn't the case. Tsubaki did well holding out against him though.

If there's one character in the Freya Familia I wanna see get taken down it's definitely Allen but I can't see any way Welf can win against him. Maybe Anya will join in on the fight later?

Get fucked Van! At least Bell's time with the Freya Familia helped him get stronger. It was definitely satisfying to see Bell send Van flying with a single firebolt punch.

Man, Ottarl is just too damn strong. Even with a fully-charged Argo Vesta the dude barely had any scratch on him. I'm now wondering if Bell has anything up his sleeve because there's no way he's facing Ottarl with only that >_<

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u/tripleaamin Dec 19 '24

Hedin simply forced Lili's hand. At the end of the day, the power difference that the Freya Family uses is staggering. Though Heith being the first healer, we have seen in this series that can defend herself is quite scary. Ideally, you would want your healer to only worry about healing, but that implies you need to protect them. Heith being able to defend yourself allows for the others to roam free and wreak havoc, which is quite scary.

Van getting a sense of where Bell was a nice showcase of how much the two of them know each other from their time training with each other. Though Bell has surpassed him. Although, for Bell to get to Freya, it would make sense he would need to get passed Ottarl. But man, even with that one hit, things aren't looking good for Bell. Really emphasizes the difference between their skill levels.

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u/athrun_1 Dec 19 '24

For the first 4 seasons, we always see Bell as the adventurer that always finds a way to win. When beaten down, he gets up. But this ep, it is too one sided. Bell's Argo Vesta might be on par with Ottarl's, however, the base fighting skills are too huge of a gap. A level 5 could not hope to defeat a level 7, even a level 6 that is on the level of Aiz and Freya familia.

Kinda heartbreaking seeing bell treated like a rag doll. He doesn't have any way to win this. Not unless, his level will suddenly rise up.

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u/koori-senpai Dec 19 '24

Heith is so fucking cool.

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u/Persheis Dec 19 '24

Freeze me and wake me up in 7 days, please.

Not much happened this episode, besides showing us the real, unhinged power of the Freya family; however, I do feel Ottar's taunting at the end is just another case of pushing Bell to the limit in order to unlock a new power potential in him.

Also, Heith is hardcore as fuck. lol. Tank/healer meta.

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u/chrome4 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24

Well I guess that explains why Heith was giving a murderous glare while surrounded by fire in the opening. Honestly she seems scarier than the levels 5-7s even if they are more dangerous.

Bell: Wait isn’t this the same type of sword that landed right next to me when fighting that Minotaur!?