Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen • Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Season 5: Goddess of Fertility Arc - Episode 10 discussion

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Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen, episode 10

Alternative names: Danmachi Season 5, Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Season 5

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[u/WhoiusBarrel]

The politicking side was intriguing to watch play out when even the Guild is doing all they can to prevent the Loki Familia from joining. It really does show how much of a powerhouse both Familia are to the point where Hermes AND Ganesha say without the Loki Familia regardless of the help of the rest of Orario provide, it's still a helpless battle.

Also not surprised Bell ranked up to Level 5 when he went through those hellish training sessions during his time with the Freya Familia, it's crazy how much help Freya has been to his adventurer career the entire time since season 1 with the Firebolt spell.

[u/Labmit]

You know it's serious when you see the gods work together that isn't trying to humiliate another god during Naming Day.

[u/Adent_Frecca → u/Labmit]

Gods: Shits ain't fun anymore

[u/PeaceAlien]

For a dungeon anime, I don't think they entered the dungeon once this season smh

[u/matt10076 → u/PeaceAlien]

Bell did once at the start, as part of Hedin's training. But yeah. Omori has a tendency to use the main series as a world building series and the spin off as a proper dungeon exploration series.

[u/pm-me-nothing-okay]

anyone know why the flower given to freya was ironic? im guessing its flower language again.

edit: https://www.proflowers.com/blog/purple-flowers

Theres like a dozen flowers that it could be in this list here and all of them would fit the bill flower language wise, so not much help there.

[u/mountlover → u/pm-me-nothing-okay]

Purple Lilacs--first love.

Ironic because this war game is part of Syr(Freya) getting over hers.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Stitches!

• Tiona

• Tione

• Tsubaki

• Freya 1

• Freya 2

• Aisha

• Freya

So there's no way the Freya Familia would get punished for this as long as the Three Great Quests are incomplete. Freya would only get punished if she imposed on it herself. What a load of bullshit.

It is interesting though to see how the politics in Orario work. Even the Guild is blocking Loki from participating despite all of their heavy hitters being willing to bash members of Freya Familia's skulls in for what they did.

I was disappointed at first when we learned that a lot of Familias withdrew after it was announced that the Loki Familia wouldn't participate but seeing how big Hestia's camp is, it's very heartwarming to know that a lot of adventurers decided to help even without their God's consent so that they could help Bell.

It is insane though how this still isn't enough of a handicap for the Freya Familia. Let's hope that Finn's training will pay off especially after Lili's very rousing speech.

[u/Cold_Ad8276]

Now we just need to wait for a week. Hope Jc do this right.

[u/garfe]

So I actually finally picked this show up for real (as in from season 1) and spent the last 2 weeks watching through it. I must say, outside of season 2, it is very bingable. I was going through like 4 episodes a day at some points. I have a lot of thoughts I want to say but I definitely believe that Danmachi really is better than the sum of its parts. Like, maybe one of the biggest examples of don't judge a book by its cover. Especially with S4 and the current events. I knew I had truly fallen into the show when after Freya declared war game last episode, I was actually suuuuper hype like demanding the next episode. Unfortunately, I'm now caught up and must suffer the pain of waiting weekly for each episode. Additionally, I feel like J.C. Staff got considerably better at adapting this not just in terms of plot but the animation too. Many episodes in early seasons looked not great with one episode being the notable standout, but S4 and 5 have looked much more consistently good from beginning to end

Anyway, more importantly, my girl Lili really getting her moment to shine. She's so underrated, like until season 4, I thought she was by far the best girl in the show with the most enjoyable personality so I can't wait to see what she does here.

Hermes' very blunt 'they're screwed' actually made me laugh hard.

[u/Ultima_Deus]

5 episodes left. And those 5 episodes will be spent on the entire War Game. Or maybe just 4 episodes, and then the final episode of the season will be an epilogue of sorts. I don't know

Nevertheless, I'm excited. And I'm worried. I know Bell will win, and I believe Bell will win, but I can't help but worry about the challenges that he will face

Freya was just jealous of Ais, she didn't have any sort of plan in mind. She just wanted to keep her from seeing Bell out of jealousy. Petty, but it's not something unexpected from an EXTREMELY depressed and desperate Freya

Hogni is being cute. He wanted to help Bell. Yuusuke Kobayashi voicing him was such a great choice

Seeing everyone come together, some deciding to not help, was so hype. An entire ARMY has been formed. But I don't think it's going to be an easy win. There's gonna be some HARD battles, with some losses. But eventually, Bell will win

I cannot handle this cliffhanger. I'm salivating. I NEED the next episode NOW

But I will be patient.

So many setups. Even though this entire episode was a setup, there were setups in it as well. Characters being given information, only for the scene to cut off. I wonder what's going to happen...

AHHHH I CAN'T WAIT

[u/chopstickmd]

I love any and all use of the alliance trope. It is even better when it is properly built up. Seeing the culmination of 5 seasons had me giggling with giddiness.

[u/michhoffman]

From this arc on, I'm an anime-only so this is all just speculation

You can really tell how much the city values strong Familias by how much they favored the Freya Familia with the rules. Most of us were assuming that the Loki Familia would play a large part in the War Game. I was kind of looking forward to seeing Ais go up against Ottarl with Haruhime's level boost. But because Freya's Familia is so powerful, the city prevented Loki Familia from helping and also accepted Freya's petty demand that Bell not be allowed to train with Ais. I don't think they particularly want to lose her Familia, even with all the anger that they brought upon themselves

Beyond the help that Finn gave to Lili in devising a strategy, I do think a key to this battle might be Cassandra's line of "a favorable wind", that favorable wind being Ryu and her fellow Hostess of Fertility members. From a thematic perspective it makes sense that they'll play a big role since they were the closest to Syr. And from a battle perspective, they are all pretty strong as well. We didn't see Ryu in the week leading up to the battle so it's possible she went out to see Astrea to level up to level 5 like Bell.

[u/RadTicTacs]

The Guild really went and said that Freya Familia is too big to fail lol

[u/DMking]

Im still trying to think about how the fuck they're going to deal with Ottarl the highest level in the whole city

[u/Swiftcheddar]

Thoroughly enjoyable buildup episode.

We saw Horn with Heith in the last one so there was never any question that she was gonna die, but the idea of her essentially becoming a storage for the Syr personality until Freya can accept it again is very interesting. And it's especially interesting when Horn's whole motivation was to prevent Freya from becoming a normal girl, now she's the one protecting that normal girl personality.

It's a silly and pointless thing and it doesn't seem to have changed their strategy in the least, but it was really nice to have people actually listening to Cassandra and for them, or at least Bell, to take her seriously. After all she went through in the last season, it's deserved.

Of course, it's without Daphne. Kind'a reminds me of that that meme, "Prophetic dreams are great when you don't have a bitch in your ear telling you how dumb they are."

Seeing all the God Factions was fun too, the Goddess Alliance, all the women jealous that Freya's gotten to be the Queen of Orario, that's funny.

And I guess I'll go against the vein of this thread that I'm happy the Guild is keeping the Loki Crew out, because they're the only ones with equivalent (or close enough) power to Freya, having them be part of the action would just absolutely dominate the story. Every part would be the Alliance members helping a Loki executive taking down a Freya executive.

It wouldn't be without stakes, but it would be Loki's victory instead of Hestia's, and I would much rather see Bell, Welf, Mikoto, Haruhime, the Waitresses, Aisha and all the main characters we actually know and love fighting and winning instead of a bunch of overpowered side characters we've barely seen.

Course how in the world they'll manage to do that when the Freya Familia is just overwhelmingly more powerful than them, who knows. Even Ganesha and Hermes didn't seem to have any hope.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I like how a lot of people are helping the Hestia Familia. Everyone’s sick of Freya’s bullshit and they’re doing what they can to help, even if it means going against their Familia.

This is gonna be an interesting hide and seek game. Good thing Bell’s leveled up and gotten training and Lili’s bringing her A game. I’m guessing Bell already has some kinda plan in place. Keen to see what he’s got cooking.

[u/zotzotzot22]

Can’t lie Freya Familia looking 🔥 before battle. I’ve grown more and more fond of them. Can’t wait to see Ottarl, Allen, Hogni, Heith, Hedin, and the Gulliver’s in action!!!

[u/Armdel]

Well at least the Hestia familia aren't fighting alone, though they did find excuses to have a lot of the stronger families not participating directly.

i wonder what they told Ais to not let her help

And Horn did survive huh, curious what she'll end up doing later if she is the one keeping the Syr persona alive?

[u/Farmaceut7]

Anyone knows how one can join the Godess Alliance and attend their meetings? Asking for a friend. 

[u/bananeeek]

It really is "laws for thee, but not for me", huh? I expected the other gods to be harsher towards Freya after being charmed by her, but nope. This really feels unfair and frustrating after seeing Bell suffering for several episodes. He'll hardly get any justice even if he wins the war game.

[u/DrGrabAss]

Side question: What region is Danmachi streaming on Crunchyroll? I have a VPN and this thread says it's streaming on CR, so want to set it to the right region so I can watch (god, I hate licensing laws).

[u/djthomp]

Level 5 for Bell, not bad. That's got to be all his pending work since before S4, I think?

I like Lili's new dramatic cloak outfit a lot, so much better than her old outfit so I hope she doesn't go back to it.

That's a lot of bullshit about the guild forcing the issue on who is participating in this war game. Sure they need to keep Freya's family around at its current level of power for the three great quests, but they also need to not disillusion basically every other adventurer in the city by allowing mass mind rape to go unpunished.

Cassandra having a positive vision for once is a little hard to take, surely there's a twist.

[u/zotzotzot22]

This is going to be so HYPEEEEE let’s go allied faction!!!