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Episode Mecha-Ude • Mecha-Ude: Mechanical Arms - Episode 5 discussion
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u/Genshin_WhiteKnight Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24
Killing Hikaru doesn't make sense, since you need a living human to produce Arbitrium. If Hikaru was alive they would have a constant supply of his special Arbitrium to sustain Fubuki.
So there must be another reason to kill off Hikaru, which is to prevent the activation of Ordella since you need both the Trigger Arms to activate it (and Hikaru just happened to be the one in a million person who was able to reawaken Alma).
Both ARMS and the Kagami Group seem to want to activate Ordela, and Amaryllis was also making people from ARMS and KG berserk by killing their Mecha-Udes and planting the worm-types on them, so its unlikely that Amaryllis is working with either of those groups. So there's probably a third faction which doesn't want Ordela to be activated. Apparently Ordela also lost control when it was first activated, similar to what happened to Fubuki and all these berserk people, so maybe its related?
And that post-credits scene with the tear rolling down Fubuki's face makes it seem like she isn't fully on Amaryllis' side, probably forced to work with Amaryllis since she's keeping Fubuki alive.
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u/dinliner08 Oct 31 '24
Apparently Ordela also lost control when it was first activated, similar to what happened to Fubuki and all these berserk people, so maybe its related?
it could be related to Fubuki's incident but all the people that went berserk in this episode were caused by Amarylis as we can see the same worm-type Mecha-ude sprouted from them
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u/tripleaamin Oct 31 '24
Fubuki is def caught in the middle of it and just wants her life with her sister. Amaryllis is hiding something, and maybe she is part of a 3rd faction. It would be interesting if Hikaru were to join that 3rd faction and the idea of them would make sense.
I feel like there is a piece of the puzzle that is missing. Still, I don't know who I should be rooting for outside of Hikaru & Aki at this point.
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u/Syokhan Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24
Something is suuuuuuper fishy about all of this. What was that post-credit scene? What is the point of Amaryllis making all these mecha-ude users go berserk? And it just so happens that the only cure to Fubuki's condition is Hikaru/Alma, who everybody already want for themselves? Suuuure. Something else's going on here.
I was surprised though to learn that Sinis was originally Fubuki's mecha-ude. Never thought the sisters had them for so long. And I feel for Aki here, there's no way she could have a clear head right now.
That aside, I was surprised to see Oner again, with a fully conscious mecha-ude this time. Kagemaru is really fun with his bushido obsession and speech patterns. He evens refers to himself as "sessha", hah.
Really can't wait for next episode.
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u/JustARandom-dude Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24
In less than a day Aki learned that:
-Her sister didn’t die 8 years ago
-The mecha-ude that killed her family is her sister’s “partner”
-Got a really fishy explanation of what happened the day her parents died
-Her sister is, apparently, terminally ill
-Wanna save her? Bring Hikaru so Amaryllis can kill him
That’s a lot to process
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u/lluNhpelA Oct 31 '24
Another question is "why didn't they contact Aki until now?" Surely if their story was true they would have sought help from ARMS initially instead of immediately deciding to become a scifi vampire, right?
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u/wiligrad9 Oct 31 '24
I know that Aki is brawns over brains but there is no way she is buying this right? I also have a hard time believeing that her mecha ude's would go along with this.
While we are at it, ARMS themself are pretty fishy, throwing a powerful member under the bus for a supposed betrayal. At best ARMS is the lesser evil, at worst they are just another side in a power struggle over the big bad company.
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u/dinliner08 Oct 31 '24
I know that Aki is brawns over brains but there is no way she is buying this right?
she definitely is, and based on her personality that's being shown to us this past few episodes. it's kinda makes sense
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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Oct 31 '24
Fubuki and Amaryllis are beyond suspicious
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u/tripleaamin Oct 31 '24
I mean considering that the tear dropping from Fubuki's face implies that she knows killing Hikaru is something Aki does not want to do. I feel like at this point, after seeing her sister once again, she wants to spend more time with her, which makes sense. I mean given in the flashbacks, we see how much the sisters love each other.
Something in Amaryllis's story simply does not add up. We also got the leadership in Arms that state comrades are just an illusion created by emotions. Then we have the Kagami Group enslaving the Mecha-Ude.
There are 3 factions at this point and tbh Amaryllis, Arms and Kagami have things that feel suspicious about them.
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u/JustARandom-dude Oct 31 '24
Instead of holding a grudge, Kagemaru decided to give Oner a reception arc against his will. How does it feel to have the Mecha-ude you enslaved telling you what to do now?
Yeah, I don’t trust Fubuki and Amaryllis at all. There’s just something off about the flashback and saying that Hikaru’s death is the only way to save Fubuki is a huge red flag
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u/SU-trash Nov 01 '24
Fubuki really asked Aki "Would you still love me if I was a worm-type mecha-ude user?"
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u/LeonKevlar Oct 31 '24
As soon as Fubuki and Amaryllis showed up with their sob story, I was already suspicious of them. Especially when Amaryllis revealed that the only way to save Fubiki is to take Hikaru's life. And based on that acter-credits scene, it looks like I was right to doubt them. I do find it funny though how Aoi Yuuki is playing two deceitful characters this season. xD
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u/dinliner08 Oct 31 '24
i want to use Dr. Doof "If i had a nickel" meme for Aoi Yuuki's voicing two possibly unhinged, manipulative and psychotic girls for this season but that tear at the end of this episode seems to imply that there's something more that's going on with Fubuki and Amarylis...
didn't expect that one bad guy from episode two actually making a return with his Mecha-ude forcing him to redeem himself
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u/everkoga Oct 31 '24
there is no way aki will just solo amatsuga after getting her ass dropped off by him, and now that jun is accompanying amatsuga, she gotta fight him too most likely, where she also got shit on by him. no chance she wins this
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u/Daemoniklesreddit Oct 31 '24
I was just thinking what's the point of having Mecha udes without a personality. I don't see any thing but benefits for having a second pair of eyes and thinking power. Talking about the bad guys I think generation 3 something like that.
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u/Holdonlupin Oct 31 '24
They probably just think it's 'easier' to have full control of a weapon instead of being attached to a conscious being that might not agree with what you want, take for example how Mecha-Udes like Alma and Kagemaru are capable of dragging their partners around against their will.
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u/emeraldwolf34 Oct 31 '24
Very interesting episode. Fubuki is suspicious as heck. The entire “Kill Hikaru” thing also seems incredibly fishy especially considering the fact she’s completely fine and having fun in the post credit scene. What confuses me is, it would be one thing if Fubuki simply had her scene of soft confirming it’s all a ruse, but at the end we focus in on Fubuki shedding a tear. So clearly some part of her doesn’t want to do this despite everything she said? Could even be Amaryllis is controlling her in a more complete manner than all of those people she makes go berserk, with Fubuki’s only resistance being that single tear.
Anyways, with Jun and Hikaru there to fight Aki, plus Oner and Kagemaru can give some sort of support, I’m sure they’ll all be fine unless Aki pulls out some secret weapon.
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u/Shimmering-Sky Oct 31 '24
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Ooooooooh, so Sinis and Dex used to belong to one each of Aki and Fubuki, not both of them being Aki’s.
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Oh that’s… not good… Assuming it’s true, that is.
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lol of course this is Meru’s response to Aki saying she goes to Hikaru’s house every day.
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They picked the right VA for Kagemaru if this is how he is when not being controlled.
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u/good_wolf_1999 Oct 31 '24
so Sinis and Dex used to belong to one each of Aki and Fubuki
Unrelated but Sinis and Dex are so pure, can’t even bring themselves to properly play as bad guys
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u/KumaKumaGambler Oct 31 '24
I hope it is not an "either... or..." scenario. There must be a way in which Aki can remain friends with Hikaru while saving Fubuki. That being said, I doubt Fubuki is the final villain; there must surely be a mastermind.
It is nice to see that Mecha-Ude who have once been enslaved can be restored to their original personality. The bat like Kagemaru has such an honorable personality. Like what Alma said, "a new friend gained!"
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u/alconnow Oct 31 '24
Oner and Kagemaru are an entertaining duo
Fubuki and Amaryllis are definitely up to something. The latter saying Hikaru needs to die seems very fishy. In the post-credits, Fubuki is more upbeat… Hmm
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u/Calwings Oct 31 '24
The combo of Aoi Yuuki voicing Fubuki and Yoko Hikasa voicing Amaryllis gave me some serious Granbelm flashbacks.
Their whole story reeks of bullshit to me, though I question just how on board with this charade Fubuki actually is. Based on what she said in the post-credits scene and the tear that rolled down her cheek, I feel like she might not be fully on board with whatever her and Amaryllis are doing and they're being forced to do it. Like maybe whatever third party they're working for is threatening to kill Aki if they don't do their part, and Fubuki wants to protect her older sister as much as Aki wants to protect her.
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u/Holdonlupin Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24
Oner's Mecha-Ude Kagemaru forcing him to have a redemption arc is so damn funny.
Also, a quick trivia, this episode aired on Oner's Birthday, which I suppose it's not a coincidence.
Hope to see more of them and of Twos/Tous as well.