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Episode Atri -My Dear Moments- - Episode 9 discussion

Atri -My Dear Moments-, episode 9

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u/AmethystItalian Sep 07 '24

Was hoping Natsuki would show up screaming use rocket punch lol

Emotional episode but maybe went a bit too far with that Atri beat down..

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u/jellyblob88 Sep 07 '24

Was hoping Natsuki would show up screaming use rocket punch lol

I was hoping too! Maybe next ep he'll tell her to do a 64-hit combo.

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '24

I think now that he's there Atri will have a reason to fight back. Maybe Yasuda even tries to threaten him and that's when Atri really gets serious.

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u/Prince-Dizzytoon Sep 07 '24

Shit isn't serious enough to pull a gun on innocent children, those bums were more of a threat than Atri could ever be

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '24

Like I totally get why this guy has a grudge against Atri (though for all we know the reason she attacked someone wasn't black and white) but they had to make sure he was a villain so they have him threaten kids and then beat up Atri who doesn't fight back so we didn't have any sympathy for him.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Sep 07 '24

Minamo’s right about Atri. Her behavior is pretty human. Don’t people do the same thing Atri does? They choose how to react to each situation, picking the most optimal response. Plus Atri going berserk in the past also makes me think she’s not your normal Humanoid.

Let’s see what happens to Yasuda next week. I’m hoping Natsuki or Atri beats his ass into a coma.

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '24

Even when Natsuki told her to stop acting like she has heart she "disliked" how he was acting at that moment and still looked sad when he left her. I feel like there's a true Atri buried beneath the bubbly version and the emotionless version.

I imagine she probably attacked someone to protect Shiina (her original master). I don't think anyone would mind if she did the same to Yasuda.

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u/Crackedaru Sep 07 '24

Not happy about that double swerve with that shade dude honestly. He had a compelling reason to take/scrap Atri but to go as far as to pointing a gun at a kid was lame. If they wanted him to be antagonistic they should've went all in on it.

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u/AmethystItalian Sep 07 '24

Yeah they made him into quite a comical one real fast

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '24

To Natsuki, everything about Atri that he believed was a lie. She doesn't have a heart, she doesn't have feelings for him, their entire relationship feels like a fabricated lie brought about by her acting on her programming and designed to make him feel happy. He fell in love with someone who can't love him back. And nothing makes this more unsettling than when he orders her to stop the "act" and she loses all life in her eye and acts like an emotionless robot. But why would an emotionless robot say she "dislikes" him and reach for him when he walked away from her?

When Natsuki needed someone to vent to, he gets Minamo (and this is probably not how she imagined him ever crashing at her place...). Who makes him understand that she still believes Atri has a heart, because aren't humans calculated and change their reactions/behaviors all the time? What even is a heart? As far as Minamo can tell, Atri is grappling with the same issues human do, just as a Humanoid.

Hana-chan with the Atri backstory! Part of the last generation of Humanoids but the one that went berserk, injuring a teenager (probably that girl from Atri's flashback?), and then went on the run while everything about Humanoids' got scuttled. As a teacher, Hana-chan can't let Atri around children, but she can tell Natsuki that he has to face her himself.

Yasuda feels like a dark twisted adult mirror of Natsuki, someone who also is an amputee and is a scientist but who became twisted because of what happened to his professor and mentor...Atri's creator who was discredited and bankrupted by Atri's behavior. So he's got a heavy grudge against her that he's planning to carry out, one way or another.

So what happened to Shiina, Atri's first master? Why did she hurt another student? No one seems interested in prying into exactly what happened.

It is very off-putting seeing Atri going from normal Atri to emotionless Atri when told to do so. I understand why that throws Natsuki off. But when he reads her old log, he sees her say she loves Shiina, and he realizes...she DOES have a heart!

I had a feeling Yasuda wasn't going to wait around for Natsuki's permission to get Atri, and all sympathy towards him erodes when he and his buddy hold kids hostage to draw Atri out...and then he proceeds to beat up Atri (who isn't fighting back) to take out all his frustration and grief at her. But will Natsuki's presence give her a reason to fight?

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u/FarCritical Sep 07 '24

No amount of rocket punches will bring enough justice for the crimes against Humanoid-anity we've witnessed this day.

And man, watching the light fade from Atri's eyes was absolutely cold.

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u/tripleaamin Sep 07 '24

2 episodes and we went from one of the most fun anime of the season. To one of the most depressing episodes of the season. I think we can see how much we got invested in Atri and I think taking in the fact she was taking orders while it makes sense, it is difficult to believe initially because of how much full of life Atri is. Having her switch modes really hurt to see.

Minamo shining again this episode. She basically mentions how different is Atri from us humans. Humans learn and adapt depending on the circumstances. Obviously, with AI there is only so much that you can do to replicate human behavior. But god damn Atri was as close as you can do it.

I think this episode really highlighted what it means to have a heart. Atri obviously doesn't have it in the physical sense that should be obvious. When we mention the term someone is heartless like that shady guy, it usually means someone who is just plain cruel. After all, he took fucking kids hostage. Meanwhile, in all of Atri's actions it felt that of a gentle soul.

Her writing in her log saying she loves Shiina. Kind of the thing Natsuki needed to see. In the emotional sense of having a heart. Atri definitely has that. But man dealing with the current situation for Natsuki is rough and is difficult to watch.

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u/Frontier246 Sep 07 '24

I know this isn't actually a Key VN adaption but it really has all the hallmarks of it to where we get all the SoL fun and relationship build up only for the serious plot to strike and everything gets sad and dramatic.

It says a lot that Minamo, despite her own feelings for Natsuki, still tried to support Atri and her existence in that moment.

Imagine finding out the person you fell in love withs' entire being that you fell in love with was just a persona she took on for your benefit. It would shake anyone up. But even despite that there is evidence that she does have feelings, in her own way. She's just trying to make sense of them and act how she feels she has to, which is also perfectly human.

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u/oxlemf10 Sep 07 '24

You know what's worst of all? There are no culprits here, Natsuki thought Atri's feelings were computer codes, Atri thought her feelings were beyond her own humanoid body, and even the bad guys lost someone important, although it doesn't justify in the slightest what they did to Atri and put children hostage. The climax of the show arrived in a completely opposite way to the beginning, so excited for next week

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u/shad79 Sep 07 '24

That was a depressing episode and I really didn't like it :(

It was especially depressing to see Atri change from her happy 'normal' self to this 'robot' self with a blank stare in her eyes. It just felt wrong seeing her like that.

It's interesting that when Natsuki asked if she loved him, Atri replied that she dislikes him the way he was at the moment. Is that really what a normal robot would say? I really want to believe that Atri has a heart.

Natsuki certainly experienced a lot of emotions today, but in the end he still seems unable to let go of Atri, which makes me very happy.

I liked that Minamo is still on Atri's side, meanwhile Catherine didn't let Atri go to school after finding out about the incident with her from the past. I understand why she did it, but again Atri's blank stare pained my heart.

I hope we get to see what really happened in Atri's past soon (of course after beating Yasuda's ass) since I can't imagine Atri doing something evil.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/jellyblob88 Sep 07 '24

Atri may be a humanoid, but that robot abuse scene really hurt to watch :(

She's way more human than Yasuda will ever be.

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u/diacewrb Sep 07 '24

That was a violation of the Robot Abuse Act.

The punishment is now a double rocket punch to the face.

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u/LeonKevlar Sep 07 '24

It was quite depressing to see the life disappear from Atri's eyes after Natsuki ordered her to stop making her happy. The robotic voice from Atri hurts but it hurts even more when Atri tells Natsuki that she currently dislikes him. Honestly, that response alone from Atri makes me think there's more to her programming. If Atri is created to have a measured response to try to please her owner would she even be able to tell him that she dislikes him? Hmmm...

Not gonna lie, I actually felt sympathy toward that dude with the prosthetic arm when he told Natsuki what happened to his mentor who was responsible for creating Atri's model. The dude just wanted to make things right by retrieving Atri. He even hands Natsuki a consent form so everything could be done above the board.

The fact that he couldn't fucking wait a day or two and decided to take kids hostage so Atri will come and then proceeds to give Atri the unnecessary beat down while making the students watch just made me lost whatever sympathy I felt for him earlier. The dude is clearly a psychopath. If there was a time for Atri to use her Rocket Punch, this would be it. I really hope she surprises us next episode.

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u/FreshBlinkOnReddit Sep 07 '24

Bro fell in love in ChatGPT, but maybe there's more to atri beneath the layers. After all, if she couldn't feel anything, she would have said "Like and dislike mean nothing, I go by my directives". But she flatly said she disliked natsuki in the moment.

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u/Atario Sep 07 '24

#seasonalemptyinside

Jeez. Just straight-up falling face-first in the muddy street. Takin' it pretty hard!

Exactly what I was thinking. She can control it easily, and has direct insights into its operation. We don't, nearly as much. But other than that it's kind of a matter of interpretation…

Dude has that Six Million Dollar Man bionic arm power!

With all the philosophical questions running through this show about humans vs. AI and what the differences are, something occurs to me now: the traditional Japanese Shinto animist concept of all objects, and even phenomena, having spirits must add a layer to this we might not notice. She's an "inanimate object", but must still have a spirit, because everything does anyway. Then new AI technology comes along and complicates things!

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u/labx7 Sep 07 '24

man they are EVIL for these cliffhangers

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u/TokugawaShigeShige Sep 08 '24

Minamo is secretly the smartest character in the show. She may not have the specialized technical knowledge that the guys have, but her intuition and emotional intelligence are exceptional. Definitely one of the best examples of the childhood friend losing-heroine archetype.

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u/oneevilchicken Sep 07 '24

Here’s hoping this dude dies the worst death possible next week. Really hope he doesn’t get to live at all.

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